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@iamanabanana
So did you get a crystal ball?
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@Owen_T
Alright, so a couple questions:
- How exactly does your role work in this game? I've found a couple different descriptions for how the Enchantress works online, and one of them seems more likely given the circumstances, but I'd like to hear it from you.
- What, exactly, did Mamata Banerjee do that was allegedly so awful?
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@Moozer325
No, I did not. So I guess Owen is a mafia member then. I asked the moderator just in case he forgot to tell me, but if he says no should I go ahead and just kill owen?
I'm not too sure on Casey being town.
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@iamanabanana
I think it's in towns interest if you hold off for the time being.
I can't find anything on the enchantress role. Can yall post a link to what your finding?
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@Lunatic
I can't find anything on the enchantress role. Can yall post a link to what your finding?
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@Owen_T
@iamanabanana
I’d advise holding off as well until we have more information. I think you would necessarily have to be informed about receiving the crystal ball, since the way the role works is that you’d have the opportunity to send it to the next person and, if the person carrying it dies, it’s revealed by the mod who sent it. I don’t see what value there is in the role if you aren’t informed that you received it. Maybe you’d receive that info at the end of the DP, but nothing in the role that I’m seeing suggests a delayed notification.
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@Owen_T
Considering the nature of this role, I would think you’d have clarified with Pie how it works. What did he tell you about how Banana would be notified?
Also, I'm reading back over this justification and scratching my head. Does anyone else have a justification this flippant? I know it's paraphrased, but my politician is pretty divisive himself and the justification follows from that divisiveness. It focuses on the way my politician portrays himself. The way Owen's is phrased focuses more on how others perceive Benergee, which wouldn't stand out nearly as much if the justification for the role itself wasn't just "her popularity must be the result of magic!"
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@whiteflame
My guy doesn't seem to be divisive and my PM is mostly just how he acts.
The one thing I’ll give Owen I don’t think he came up with this role by himself. It’s either real or he has an experienced partner who came up with it for him.
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@Lunatic
The one thing I’ll give Owen I don’t think he came up with this role by himself. It’s either real or he has an experienced partner who came up with it for him.
I agree, the role itself isn't something he'd come up with. My other concern, as it has been for every game like this, is that we know scum had the opportunity to ask Pie about two roles. Picking one that a) is distinctly out of left field, one none of us has seen before, b) one with an obvious means of role confirmation, and c) claiming its usage on the person who is the Queen this DP doesn't jive with the reality of what scum have at their disposal. I really don't like his claim at all, but unless his goal was to make himself stand out via a series of strange choices, I have a distinctly hard time seeing him as scum. I may be applying some WIFOM to this, but this series of decisions seems absolutely nonsensical if he's scum.
Be aware everyone: we have a little over 30 hours left in the DP, so we have time to discuss, but we really need to start winnowing things down and people should give their thoughts. As far as my own thoughts go, here are the basics:
I think there's one scum between JoeBob and Earth. I have a hard time believing that there is absolutely no investigative role in this game, but both of their claims come off as a little sus. I'd say JoeBob is looking more sus to me right now, though I can see scum asking Pie about either the Motion Detector or Watcher and presenting their claims as they did, even if I have a slightly harder time believing that the Self-Watcher is a fake claim.
There's also likely one scum between Moozer and Owen. This is a trickier choice because I think Moozer's reads made sense and he's been pretty behaviorally townie, though his claim comes off as more suspect. The trouble with picking him, though, is that he's also the only claimed protective role in the game. Owen is a very odd case because he is blatantly unconfirmed in his night action. Like I mentioned above, though, he'd basically have had to sink his own ship about as hard as he possibly could in order for him to be scum. Maybe I'm just overthinking this and he just went for it hard with a role he barely understood.
So, if I had to pick, I guess I'm leaning towards JoeBob and Owen as a scum team, but I feel more strongly about the former than the latter. As people start giving thoughts, I can tally the votes.
I want to see Owen's reaction to Banana not getting the crystal ball.
Thinking about it rationally, I think Scum!Owen would be foolish to fake claim something like that when their target can go "lol I never got it."
It could be a gambit by mafia (did Pie confirm scum is just 2 mafia?), but it would be risky for no real benefit because even if they get a mislynch off, town just has to out all their reports and possibly confirm whoever as scum.
I think there's one scum between JoeBob and Earth. I have a hard time believing that there is absolutely no investigative role in this game, but both of their claims come off as a little sus.
Yeah, it is very, very strange that Self-Watcher is the closest thing to a claimed investigative role that we have. I don't have a great feeling about JoeBob, largely because he has been mostly absent this DP. Between him and Earth, I'm leaning towards him. Of course, it's not up to me.
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@Earth
Thinking about it rationally, I think Scum!Owen would be foolish to fake claim something like that when their target can go "lol I never got it."
I was thinking the same thing. No point in fake claiming such a confirmable role with that high of risk
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@Casey_Risk
Yeah, it is very, very strange that Self-Watcher is the closest thing to a claimed investigative role that we have. I don't have a great feeling about JoeBob, largely because he has been mostly absent this DP. Between him and Earth, I'm leaning towards him. Of course, it's not up to me.
I have nothing to post but fluff
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@JoeBob
I have nothing to post but fluff
Reads would be nice, especially considering you're being widely sussed.
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@whiteflame
especially considering you're being widely sussed.
It seems I’m almost always widely sussed, so I’m not that bothered by it
I’ll give my reads when I get home
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@JoeBob
It seems I’m almost always widely sussed, so I’m not that bothered by it
If you want people to read you behaviorally instead of just based on your claim, then you need to participate. If you're not bothered by it, then you're effectively submitting to a lynch and if you're doing that as town, then you're actively making it harder for us.
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@Lunatic
@whiteflame
Are you guys going to full claim?
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@Earth
Suffice it to say that I’d like to wait until DP3 to claim if possible. If enough people want it, though, I can claim this DP.
Sorry everyone I just got home let me read through
Can I use AI to reword?
Also, what exactly does reads do to help town?
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@JoeBob
They just make sure everyone is on the same page and they share ideas and theories.
Wait why are you asking?