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@FLRW
Tree of liberty.
Another school shooting in rural America
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That sounds like the beginnings of a manifesto. Maybe we should be flagging this to someone.
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@badger
Yes, flag all the Federalist Papers for hate speech.
Thomas Jefferson would fertilise the tree of liberty with the blood of innocent kids?
I dunno. I googled tree of liberty. I found that Jefferson quote about refreshing it with the blood of patriots and tyrants. Nothing about innocent kids yet.
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@badger
Cause kids never died in the civil or revolutionary war.
K.
Yeah these school shootings are just the realisation of the tree of liberty. Got ya.
So what is it? Leftie mother who thought you were a waste of space poisoned the dorky kid against you?
So what is it? Leftie mother who thought you were a waste of space poisoned the dorky kid against you?
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@Greyparrot
I know that big complicated lies work better than small lies. I know that Kamala is left wing.
I dont think anyone will buy the lie that Kamala is next Stalin. I dont think its even possible.
If you think this helps Trump, if you think people consider Kamala Stalin, then Kamala has already won.
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@Best.Korea
Kamala is just saying whatever works. Moderate Democrats are more worried about her backers who have a clear Marxist and Eugenic agenda. That Overton window isn't quite set in stone for the far-left tribe.
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@Greyparrot
You can promote Kamala as Stalin. You can promote anyone on left as Stalin. Such strategy will fail.
It will fail because people are more afraid of Hitler. It will fail because Trump is considered Hitler.
I think Gp has a copy of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand.
The one thing preventing gp from becoming a school shooter is shortness of breath.
The resident clowns are acting up again.
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@Best.Korea
George Soros is pretty Marxist.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Yep.
Looks to me like I knocked a bit of the guff out of you gp.
So how's your kid doing in his fatherless household? I guess some kids' dads are locked in prison, others are addicted to internet forums.
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@Greyparrot
George Soros is pretty Marxist.
Trump is considered Hitler. Trump is called by many as racist white dictator, so he is basically Hitler.
Rip Roosevelt
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@Best.Korea
Well, at least Eva Braun wasn't a stripper.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
There is no qualification in the 2nd amendment.
Do you believe people should be allowed to buy missile launchers?
The only qualification to vote is citizenship.
Then apparently you are against voter ID laws, correct? Or did I miss the part of the constitution that requires it's citizens to carry state ID?
The job of government is to protect rights.
No, that's your opinion on what you think the government should be limited to. But under a government of the people by the people and for the people, it is the people who decide whatever the role of government should be. And overwhelmingly, people believe government should be a vehicle to solve problems within our society. That includes ensuring it's citizenry is safe, which is the opposite of what you get when you allow guns to flood our streets.
You only find it ridiculous because you understand why the presumption of innocence must be a right.
The presumption of innocence has nothing to do with this conversation, that's what makes your analogy ridiculous.
I'm not the one who thinks "it's the law, whatever the 'judge' says goes" is the end of the controversy.
You are incapable of responding to an argument without strawmanning it.
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@Best.Korea
Yes, as a politician, Trump has sometimes used rhetoric similar to that once used by Hitler to describe what he perceives as American social ills; he has privately compared himself to Hitler on multiple occasions; and he has even praised Hitler for his economic policy.
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@FLRW
Trump uses rhetorical devices Hitler was famous for. Trump uses lots of repetition of same words in speeches.
Hitler repeated same words 3 to 5 times in just few lines. Trump basically employs same rhetorical device.
"You can hunt us, you can bombard us, you can even kill us, but we will never capitulate!" - Hitler
3 times repeated "You can", and 3 times repeated "us" in just few sentences.
You will often hear Trump repeating same words for thousands of times. He used the word "crooked" countless times.
It is a rhetorical device where repeating same words makes people more likely to believe them. They sound better.
Trump is closest there is to Hitler: racist, liar, hates election results, same propaganda, wants to be dictator...
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@Double_R
There is no qualification in the 2nd amendment.Do you believe people should be allowed to buy missile launchers?
I believe the 2nd amendment guarantees the right to possess any weapon which has practical utility against aggressors of at any scale especially state of the art government military forces.
The context of the 2nd amendment is clear. It protects missile launchers MORE than a switchblade because missile launchers are MORE useful against a potentially tyrannical government.
The only qualification to vote is citizenship.Then apparently you are against voter ID laws, correct?
No, apparently I am saying voter ID laws would be unconstitutional IF there was no such thing as an ineligible voter, but there is such a thing so they are not unconstitutional.
Or did I miss the part of the constitution that requires it's citizens to carry state ID?
When a qualification is implied so are the minimal effective means of determining the qualification.
The job of government is to protect rights.No, that's your opinion on what you think the government should be limited to.
It's an objective fact, since that is the only legitimate use of force and the government is differentiated from any other organization by its use of force.
But under a government of the people by the people and for the people, it is the people who decide whatever the role of government should be.
Under the constitution, you need 2/3 of the states to change the constitution. Until the constitution changes, the constitution determines the legal role of government.
There is no provision in the constitution which nullifies the bill of rights "if some people think there is a problem where the only solution is to violate the bill of rights".
There is no requirement in reason for a false dichotomy to confer any responsibility on anyone, e.g. "If you can't stop the shcool shootings through a mental health law, you must allow us to take away the guns".
The false dichotomy implied there is that a universe without school shootings (or equivalent) MUST exist and anything that the speaker perceives as standing in the way of that universe must yield.
It doesn't matter if a universe without school shootings would be an improvement, what matters is the morality of specific actions or inaction. Again, you can end black crime instantly by killing all the blacks. A universe without black crime being a good thing does not mean you can do anything to get there nor does it mean anyone who tells you to stop your immoral actions must come up with another way to your utopia. You're the one being evil, you need to stop.
And overwhelmingly, people believe government should be a vehicle to solve problems within our society.
They are misguided on that, but that is besides the point. If an overwhelming majority wanted to change the constitution they could. It is not happening because that is not the case. If you think a minority of sparsely populated red states are the problem may I suggest secession?
You only find it ridiculous because you understand why the presumption of innocence must be a right.The presumption of innocence has nothing to do with this conversation, that's what makes your analogy ridiculous.
You can bury your head in the sand but the analogy is still here.
You are incapable of responding to an argument without strawmanning it.
Then you should stop responding to me, I don't find your sophistry and constant context-shifting red herrings all that interesting.
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@FLRW
Rip Roosevelt
Often imitated. Never duplicated.
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@Greyparrot
Ok Fellini !
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@ADreamOfLiberty
It's an objective fact, since that is the only legitimate use of force and the government is differentiated from any other organization by its use of force.
A caveat to that statement would be an impartial application of the protection of rights through legitimized violence.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The context of the 2nd amendment is clear. It protects missile launchers MORE than a switchblade because missile launchers are MORE useful against a potentially tyrannical government.
It doesn't matter if a universe without school shootings would be an improvement
you can end black crime instantly by killing all the blacks. A universe without black crime being a good thing does not mean you can do anything to get there nor does it mean anyone who tells you to stop your immoral actions must come up with another way to your utopia. You're the one being evil, you need to stop.
We are literally living in a cartoon and these are just cartoon characters. No way real person says this.
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@Best.Korea
Cause only Disney would say the ends justifies the means?
Sure.
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@Greyparrot
Its also possible that someone used black magic to turn you guys into cartoon characters. It is possible.
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@Best.Korea
From anyone else I would question your reading comprehension, but it's you so: lolNo way real person says this.
People who can't handle conditional statements and analogies should not be attempting to debate.