Another school shooting in rural America

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Crime is out  of control in the red states and red counties.

“Barrow County Sheriff Jud Smith told reporters Thursday afternoon there were “multiple injuries” as a result of the shooting but that he likely wouldn’t be releasing more information before 4 p.m., when he hoped to hold a news conference”

The mostly white county has 83,000 people
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The prevalence of armed attacks at American educational institutions points to a potentially systemic problem; between 2009 and 2018, the United States recorded 57 times as many school shootings compared to other high-income nations and as of 2019, became the only major industrialized country in which firearms are the leading cause of death for children and teens.
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4 dead? shheeet sounds like a typical Chicago weekend!

You don't even have to wait for election season...it's open season all year long!

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Yes, in 2017, Trump quietly rolled back an Obama-era regulation that made it harder for people with mental illness to buy guns. 
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You are talking about this, right?
Radio host Sebastian Gorka, who served as the deputy assistant to former President Donald Trump, has argued that gun violence is rampant in Chicago, even though, he says, handguns are banned there.
But he's wrong in either case.
"The statements that all guns are illegal in Chicago and that handguns are illegal in Chicago are equally false," Darrell Miller, a professor of law at Duke University, said in a phone interview with USA TODAY.
While Chicago has tighter gun laws than many other parts of the country, it does not restrict the sale or possession of handguns.
Chicago did have gun restrictions in place in years past, but they have been struck down by court rulings, most recently in 2014.
Chicago banned the possession of handguns within city limits in 1982, but in 2010, the Supreme Court found the city's restrictions unconstitutional. The ruling in that case – McDonald v. Chicago – was similar to the court's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, which overturned a ban on gun ownership in Washington, D.C., two years earlier.
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Cool, now go try to legally buy a gun in Chicago. I dare you. Just act surprised if you end up in prison next to Hunter Biden for filling out a legal gun form. 
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A 14 year old. When will people start realizing that the next generation is full of degenerates like this guy and that we have a culture problem in the US.
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 we have a culture problem in the US
Tru-dat!
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4 dead? shheeet sounds like a typical Chicago weekend!
Oh right. The blacks

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All the guns in Chicago come from Iowa. Thanks corn people!
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All the guns in Chicago come from Iowa. Thanks corn people
Ha! Last time you blamed Indiana. Chicago’s laws; Chicago’s responsibility. This issue is not the corn people’s problem 🤷‍♂️ 
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Crime is out  of control in the red states and red counties.
Also, how sick and twisted are you, to take an event like this and use it for a cheap, political potshot?
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Chicago’s laws; Chicago’s responsibility.
Bullshit, those guns are being supplied by red states.

Ha! Last time you blamed Indiana.
That’s a distinction without a difference. But I did mean to say Indiana. All those flyover states are the same.

Also, how sick and twisted are you, to take an event like this and use it for a cheap, political potshot?
Sick and twisted is all MAGA MORONS understand. They are very sensitive to the crime issue unless it is happening in red states.
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Ouch, you hit them right in the quantitative analysis. In the past they called that "science", but we now know "science" is an unelected man or woman in the federal government.
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Remember, the deep state wants you to think crime is down in a bad economy with increased migration of international gangs and a gutted DEI police force....
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Remember, the deep state wants you to think crime is down in a bad economy with increased migration of international gangs and a gutted DEI police force....
There is no Deep state 
Crime is down
The economy is strong
Migrants are not gang members, except for Sicilians
the police force is bigger and better than ever

You Lie

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“Police recovered an AR-15-style rifle from the scene, he said, but they were still looking into how the suspect acquired the weapon and brought it into the school”

Yeah America. You are so wise to allow assault weapons to be available to ordinary citizens 
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Remember, the deep state wants you to think crime is down in a bad economy with increased migration of international gangs and a gutted DEI police force....
There is no Deep state 
The "Deep State" is fake news.
Crime is down
Even when you include the one-man crime wave, Donld Trump in the numbers.
The economy is strong
My favorite MAGA argument is vote Trump because the economy isn't his fault.

I hear this every time a MAGA idiot lacks the common sense to try to argue about Trump with me. They always start by saying we should vote Trump for the economy.

Then when you point out that Trump presided over the greatest economic collapse since the thirties, raised the national debt more than any president ever, had the highest unemployment since World War II, etc, etc, etc.

Then when you explain that Biden presided over the greatest economic recovery since the World War II, has lowest unemployment, highest increase in GNP, etc, etc, etc.

Then they say, but that's because of COVID, the economy wasn't his fault.

So, there you go, vote Trump because the economy isn't his fault. 
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Migrants are not gang members, except for Sicilians
No, some even marry rich real estate men for money.
the police force is bigger and better than ever
Even though Trump had his people attack the capital and kill police officers.

You Lie
MAGA calls it "alternative facts" LOL
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Bullshit, those guns are being supplied by red states.
And the seekers of those red state guns are residents of the very blue Windy City. 

Turns out, when you place heavy restrictions on guns and gun ownership, criminals and otherwise law-abiding individuals alike will turn to the black market. Conservatives have been saying this for years; thanks for helping my case.

Go ahead, keep trying to spin the issue and blame Indiana for Chicago’s inability to enforce its own laws.

Sick and twisted is all MAGA MORONS understand. They are very sensitive to the crime issue unless it is happening in red states.
A sad deflection from a miserable loser. I ask again, why do you exploit tragedy for the sake of some political scoreboard?
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And the seekers of those red state guns are residents of the very blue Windy City. 
Stop selling them guns you morons! I realize Indiana is a welfare state, but at least have some integrity.

A sad deflection from a miserable loser.
Um, I make a lot of money. I’ve been married for more than 30 years and now own 6 houses. My kids both graduated college.

You are the loser because you can’t match that.

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A sad deflection from a miserable loser. I ask again, why do you exploit tragedy for the sake of some political scoreboard?
Apparently, you have to be a "successful person" to get away with exploiting tragedies.
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Apparently, you have to be a "successful person" to get away with exploiting tragedies.
You guys love Trump.

Trump tried to exploit the tragedy at the airbase in Afghanistan in the most despicable way.

Then he gave a thumbs up at the gravesite of a recently killed veterans.

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Unsure to what end IWRA is exploiting tragedies? To the end that those tragedies don't happen?
What a monster.

Republicans would rather no one was appalled at children shooting each other?
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Apparently it's sick and twisted to get mad and try to do something about children shooting each other. That's definitely an interesting take.
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Tag me next time, coward.

Stop selling them guns you morons! I realize Indiana is a welfare state, but at least have some integrity.
LOL! Instead of arguing against the point I made, you just repeated the same absurd claim. You can’t even bring yourself to acknowledge my points, can you?

That would require you to have some intellectual honesty. You don’t have any.

Um, I make a lot of money. I’ve been married for more than 30 years and now own 6 houses. My kids both graduated college.

A while ago you said you made around $400,000 a year… apparently, in one year, you’re now rich enough to own six houses. You are a bad liar.

But let’s assume you’re telling the truth…

Donald Trump has more money than you do. Therefore, he is a winner and you are a loser.
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 Countries with the Most School Shootings (total incidents Jan 2009-May 2018 - CNN):
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

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You also should tag me next time.

Incidents like these a tragic and noteworthy. We should do things to address them. Not with what the left proposes, but the problem does need to be addressed.

However, Roosevelt has made many threads talking about how “red state crime is out of control”… a claim anyone reasonable would recognize as ridiculous. In truth, crime rates in any location are a product of many factors, and it isn’t a blue/red split. Idaho and Wyoming are testament to that fact.

His whole argument here is basically just “other side bad.” While the other lefties in this thread offer solutions (ineffective ones, but solutions nonetheless), he offers no solution, instead citing his imaginary political scorecard.

His intent is not pure.
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He seems a decent fellow to me, just disgusted at what he has to deal with. I don't envy him living in the states with your republicans.

Anyways we've argued about guns before and I find you tiresome so I'll leave you at it. But I've seen that point about "exploiting tragedies" made by those on the right before and it's dopey, evil shit. Just wanted to have a bash off it. 
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 I don't envy him living in the states with your republicans.
He actually lives in a state with one party rule for the past 60 years. He has been conditioned to make up a bad guy by the party in power when things go tits up.

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I’m not calling the standard leftist who proposes gun control exploitative, not on that front. Roosevelt is distinct in that his motives are a scorecard that he uses to feel superior.