Ace Attorney Mafia DP1

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Lunatic decided that Wylted must be mafia because of a statistical fallacy. Lunatic is also implicated in a dream Austin had. 
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@Earth
Lunatic decided that Wylted must be mafia because of a statistical fallacy. Lunatic is also implicated in a dream Austin had
ohhh that’s why
I agree that  it is scummy and it doesn’t seem like something he would do as town. Not sure though.
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@Lunatic
Do you still think WyIted is scum? If so, is it because of the reasoning Earth just gave, or something else?
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As it stands, we do have one scum between Lunatic, Savant, and Wylted.

This was said earlier, but I am repeating it. I am warning the rest of town not to stray from this idea. Austin is hard town.
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@Mharman
Austin is hard town.
How do you know this?
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@Savant
I believe their claim. Their character and role make way too much sense. Even the game and theme design of it makes sense.

If I'm scum and asking Casey about who's in the game for a fake claim, I'm not asking about the protagonist or any deuteragonists. I'm asking for a more minor character. Not for someone who's obscure, just for someone who isn't at the forefront of the story.
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@Mharman
what’s Austin’s character again?
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and role^

I can’t find the message where he said it
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@JoeBob
Maya something
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Maya Fey
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@Savant
what message did he say his role
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@Mharman
If I'm scum and asking Casey about who's in the game for a fake claim, I'm not asking about the protagonist or any deuteragonists. I'm asking for a more minor character. Not for someone who's obscure, just for someone who isn't at the forefront of the story.
Speaking as someone who has been in the position to ask about characters, I can say that that was not my thinking, though in Pie’s game we had much of the DP to wait for claims to roll out to narrow our options. Scum doesn’t have that luxury here, but there are enough games with enough protagonists and deuteragonists that some are bound to be available. There’s risk in asking about certain characters, particularly when they’re related to other central characters, but even if scum guesses a character who is in the game, it can inform fake claims by restricting the pool.

That being said, he and WyIted also claimed early enough that they would have either had to ask Casey about the character and be told it wasn’t in the game or be willing to take a huge risk with very limited info. The former is possible but unlikely. I don’t think either of them would do the latter.

Still, I think we shouldn’t assume how scum chose to use their questions. Different people will weigh the benefits of picking certain targets and reach different conclusions.
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Kinda busy today. Will give a more thorough catch-up later. I can say that if I was scum, I definitely wouldn't waste a question on Maya, considering she's very likely to already be present, especially as her character fits very well thematically with an investigative role.
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Anyway, pretty sure that we should be going in Luna and Savant today, unless I see anything else blatantly scummy.
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@AustinL0926
I definitely wouldn't waste a question on Maya, considering she's very likely to already be present, especially as her character fits very well thematically with an investigative role.
To be fair, this is Ace Attorney we’re talking about, so there are a lot of characters who thematically could have an investigative role. That being said, I agree that Maya’s not an obvious pick given her relevance to the series across multiple games.
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Savant's math is not mathing and Luna's RVS vote and the fluff words he paired with the RVS vote, is being overanalyzed
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unvote VTL savant
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VTL Luna. I want a full claim.
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I also don't think WyIted would be narrowing POE like this if he was scum.
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If we lynch Luna, I will probably be killed tonight anyway, so I don't have much stake in this since I'm likely dead no matter what. But it would be good not to waste a lynch on a town player.
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VTL Luna
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@AustinL0926
I can say that if I was scum, I definitely wouldn't waste a question on Maya, considering she's very likely to already be present, especially as her character fits very well thematically with an investigative role.
Not that you're necessarily wrong, but I tend to find self-analysis useless, since if you thought that far ahead, you may have chosen your actions specifically so you could say "I wouldn't do [x]." If it was someone else's read, I would give it more weight.

But yeah, Luna is my top scum read.
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Not that you're necessarily wrong, but I tend to find self-analysis useless
Agreed most self analysis is just copium

I also don't think WyIted would be narrowing POE like this if he was scum.
I would do what I always do as scum. look for doc slips and pretend they are scum slips and narrow POE that way.
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@WyIted
Can you maybe elaborate on why you are scum reading me?
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Votes:

Savant (2/5): Austin, WyIted 
Lunatic (2/5): Savant, Owen
Mharman (1/5): Lunatic 
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@AustinL0926
You too. I've given my role, Luna hasn't. He's also more hesitant to agree that scum is one of us.
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@Savant
you are literally waffling about scum reading lunatic. You should 100% know he is at this point. Any doubt indicates an effort to derail next dps lynch if lunatic flips town, which should be impossible from your point of view. Now you mention a scum read but that is after people started questioning why you didn't have one on him
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@WyIted
What makes you think Savant is waffling?

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@WyIted
I'm not waffling, I said we should target Luna. Earlier I was accused of "tunneling" for saying I scum read someone. Make of your minds, people.
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