And quotes having the big was pretty public knowledge, scum had motive to roleblock him. Especially scum pie who was using quotes being “vanallazed” and not being able to prove his role as an argument against him pretty much the whole game….
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@Lunatic
A role blocker could have as well. But I think the means of Casey's power in it of itself would let the shot be kept. Further, less likely to be a role blocker on the scum team with that power already in play making a scum untargetable.
Wylted *
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@Barney
A role blocker could have as well. But I think the means of Casey's power in it of itself would let the shot be kept. Further, less likely to be a role blocker on the scum team with that power already in play making a scum untargetable.
The mod pretty much directly told me that Casey’s role would have prevented the 1x vig though. And if your right about the second part than that indicates Wylted is scum and lying about vigging Casey
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@Barney
I also think this doesn't need to be hard. Win or lose, it was a good game, scum especially did well.
I don’t think it needs to be hard either. I’m pretty close to making a decision but I will feel pretty bad for pie if we mislynch him because we didn’t do our due diligence. And really the only thing separating the two from being scum is wifom arguments of what we’re choosing to believe etc, so I think it’s only fair that we consider the ones in reverse too which are almost just as damning for wylted
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@Barney
A role blocker could have as well. But I think the means of Casey's power in it of itself would let the shot be kept. Further, less likely to be a role blocker on the scum team with that power already in play making a scum untargetable.
Bolded part is false.
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@Lunatic
Casey’s role would have prevented the 1x vig though
Hence, the shot not used up, even while the attempt to kill them was made.
And if your right about the second part than that indicates Wylted is scum and lying about vigging Casey
I'm not seeing the connection there. Why is a role blocker needed for Wyited to be scum or not?
What it comes down to is either:
1. Wylted was prevented from some scum role from using his big, so yes we would have to believe that scum have two ability preventing roles
Or
2. Wylted was lying about bugging Casey knowing it would give him town cred later on based on Casey’s role (not knowing a simple answer from Austin would undermine that tactic completely).
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@Barney
Casey’s role would have prevented the 1x vig thoughHence, the shot not used up, even while the attempt to kill them was made.
I thought so too originally but I asked Austin as pie suggested and he literally told me that Casey’s role would have used up a vig. I hate using mod answers to solve this stuff but if pie is doing it we kind of have to as well. I encourage you to ask Austin the same thing, his answer is consistent with what pie said.
I'm not seeing the connection there. Why is a role blocker needed for Wyited to be scum or not?
I’m just using role blocker as an example, Austin won’t tell me if a role blocker would actually make someone retain a big ability or not. But that’s the only explanation for wylted being possibly town here is if there is a scum sized ability that prevented wylted from acting but let him keep his role.
There is plenty of incentive for scum to have used said role on wylted, so it’s not out of the question.
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@ILikePie5
A role blocker could have as well. But I think the means of Casey's power in it of itself would let the shot be kept. Further, less likely to be a role blocker on the scum team with that power already in play making a scum untargetable.Bolded part is false.
How so? You've seen what the host confirmed to me about shots being able to be kept through a failure.
The determination would be if their power makes them invincible, or untargetable.
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@Barney
Specifically ask him about Casey’s role. I know you said you have a moral conundrum with that but he already answered it to me and pie so it can’t hurt any more than it has
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@Barney
How so? You've seen what the host confirmed to me about shots being able to be kept through a failure.The determination would be if their power makes them invincible, or untargetable.
I literally copy pasted Austin’s response and he gave me a warning publically. Come one dude
If pie is town he will have no problem sending 50$ to lunatics cash app, to be refunded if he flips town in the end game.
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@Lunatic
@Barney
Before making your final decision, please read through Post 137 one more time. I laid out everything there that demonstrates how Wylted’s actions have zero town motive (namely the Cop and shot on Earth).
The shot on Earth has already been debunked with nobody pointing out any flaws in my logic.
Also to make it fair me and pie both send lunatic $50 to his cash app and je keeps 25 and gives whoever is town $75.
It's win win
I can't go over $50 though because payday isn't here yet
VTL wylted
There are too many variables to overlook to excuse wylted being town here. It is possible wylted is town yes, but then I have to excuse the information about his big not working due to a second roleblock type action which makes mafia basically untreatable so why even give town two vigilante powers if they are unlikely to ever get to use them? It’s more likely Wylted was actually big braining a lot of things here with mylo that I have been giving him a pass on. And my investigation role really isn’t that powerful as the only town power role. Town at least having a watcher makes sense. And Wylted should have used his cop if he wants that claim to being the investigative role.
Also pie just feels genuine here. The frustration, I get. Putting myself in his shoes I think I would be frustrated too with how a lot of this day phase has gone. And ultimately if he is scum he just deserves it. He hasn’t really made any mistakes and a lot of the arguments I have for him being scum come down to wifom anyway. At the end of the day, pie even if scum, deserves to win. And I don’t have enough to indicate Wylted is town here so it really would be unfair of me to board that train at this point but to ride more of the wifom parade against pie.
Regardless of who is actually scum here, both of you played very good scum games.
My gut is telling me pie is town. I hope I’m not wrong but if I am it’s whatever. Let’s move in to the next one.
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@Barney
Sorry to waffle on you
At the very least if I am wrong, I can say I feel like we did the day phase it’s due diligence, and analyzed everything there is worth analyzing
Where the hell did everyone randomly go
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@Lunatic
My gut is telling me pie is town. I hope I’m not wrong but if I am it’s whatever. Let’s move in to the next one.
Good lord finally
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@Lunatic
Where the hell did everyone randomly go
I’m at work. I spent my entire day typing and responding to you. I have a deliverable due.
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@ILikePie5
I’m at work. I spent my entire day typing and responding to you. I have a deliverable due.
You =\= everyone
I really feel for Pie here because lunatic has also kept me from studying for my math test because he failed to vote correctly and now I have to check the thread every 10 minutes to see if Lunatic will convince Barney to change his mind or if Barney will convince Lunatic to change his mind
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@WyIted
Bro I’m legit worried pie might shoot up a school or something if we don’t give him this game. Think of the children!
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@ILikePie5
I’m at work. I spent my entire day typing and responding to you. I have a deliverable due.
If you need any help, let us know.
I'll revote later after I read a bit more.
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@WyIted
If you need math tutoring let me know. I'm pretty good at it.
I will not be back on until tonight, so no progress will happen until like 9 PT.
So focus on your studies, and don't worry about this game.... it's just a game.
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@Barney
If you need math tutoring let me know. I'm pretty good at it.
You might regret saying this.
Bro I’m legit worried pie might shoot up a school or something if we don’t give him this game. Think of the children!
I think he lives in a predominantly white area, so perhaps we should give him the win