I'll unvote, but I won't give my claim yet.
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@ILikePie5
Who was the 5th vote? Or is the lynchproof activatable? Explain please.
I will not answer questions in-thread.If you have a question, PM me. I will only answer questions about your own role or a flipped role. - FROM THE OP
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@ILikePie5
Wylted loses his lynchproof at MYLO/LYLO.
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@Savant
You'll never trust me until I'm confirmed town, so go ahead. Lynch me, and then if I'm town, lynch Pie.
That’s not how it works, and you’re not the first scum member to say that.
I don't know how he convinced people that the shot should go to a random person rather than someone who is role-confirmed and whose role is most likely town. Likely town getting the shot is better than some rando getting it, but for some reason Pie would rather just role the dice. That's enough that I'm willing to trade my life for his.
Role confirmed =/= affiliation confirmed. You just know he’s unlynchable today. Is he unlynchable tomorrow as well? Did you even bother to ask?
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
@Moozer325
There is no way Savant is town if this is your mechanic.
Exactly the kind of thing I expected to hear from scum Pie. If Pie is scum, he literally has every reason to read me as scum and ignore anything that would make me town, despite it being conceded by basically everyone that there are good reasons to think I might be town, at the very least. I'm taking pressure off Earth for now.
VTL Pie
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@AustinL0926
You can answer if there was a 5th vote or not lol. The rest was directed to Wylted
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@ILikePie5
You can answer if there was a 5th vote or not lol. The rest was directed to Wylted
There was not a fifth vote.
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@ILikePie5
Go on and vote me if you're not afraid to confirm me as town. We can go down together.
Pie is scum, so he 100% knows I'm not bluffing.
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@Casey_Risk
Just for clarity Pie, can you actually confirm your affiliation or just your role? Also, for the sake of the town, would you mind saying what your role actually is?
I can confirm my role not affiliation. And no I will not say what the role.
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@ILikePie5
Come on, Pie. I voted against you twice. You should vote against me if you think I'm scum.
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@WyIted
Given how retarded town is. His role could be doctor and people would be like"Wow buddy, I thought you said you could confirm your affiliation)
Town is retarded. Everyone who wanted to give a vote thief the vig shot is retarded
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
@Moozer325
After I told everyone to lynch Pie if I am town, he didn't vote for me, despite the fact that he claims to be 100% sure I am scum. Interesting.
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@Savant
And if lynching me is what it takes for you to be willing to lynch Pie, then I already said I'm down for that. He's unlikely to confirm himself tomorrow, because scum will either roleblock him or he will claim he was roleblocked (likely the latter). If he "confirms" himself, he's been the first one to say role confirmation is not affiliation confirmation, so idk why we should give him any town cred for that.
I don’t want town cred. I’m not like you who literally went around screaming I’m role confirmed so I’m town.
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@Savant
He was not lazy in Invincible mafia, when he was scum.
I’m not lazy regardless of my affiliation, which you conveniently left out cause last game I was town and talked the most.
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@ILikePie5
Two questions:
1. How sure are you that I am scum?
2. If that number is over 50%, why haven't you voted against me?
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@ILikePie5
I’m not lazy regardless of my affiliation
That's one of the first things I brought up. It's why I said being aggressive doesn't clear you.
Stop using my vote.
VTL Savant
Okay this is too long replying individually especially since I’m on my phone. I’m going to read everything and give my thoughts
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@Earth
Wait I realized you couldn't actually vote for me. Lol. But also sorry.
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@Earth
You don't control your vote.
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@Savant
Goddammit. I forgot. Well, I would vote you if I could.
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@Earth
Love you too
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@Earth
@Barney
@WyIted
@JoeBob
@Moozer325
This is just laughable at this point. Let me explain once again why Savant has to be scum while responding to all his claims.
1) There has been no semblance of scum hunting. His two scum reads are both OMGUS in me and Earth.
2) As a town vote thief, even if you want to confirm yourself, you should want to steal the vote of someone you suspect as scum. When asked why he chose Earth, he said it was yolo, and done just to confirm himself.
3) Then he acts “town-confirmed” and gathers a wagon to gain the 1x Vig shot. For all you noobs, in the history of mafia on this site for sure and probably DDO, a Vote Thief has NEVER been town.
4) Savant says, well if I am scum, why would I claim my scummy role? The answer to this is simple. He looked up the mechanics of the role one MafiaScum, where it says Vote Thief is “town aligned.” It’s idiotic, but I digress. Scum Savant at this point gets excited. He can role confirm himself by stealing a rando’s vote and gain the 1x Vig and bring the game to MYLO. But he is still relatively new and has no clue that Vote Thief’s are scum on this site.
5) We know that Austin has done extensive research into all the games on this site. He’s a geek in that sense. He has definitely seen that Vote Thief is scum on this site, but Savant hasn’t done that research. His first thought on seeing the MafiaScum and then the 1x Vig. Wow this is too easy. So much so that he forgot he has to act townie and scum hunt.
6) His role matches perfectly with Wylted (in an opposite sense) who at this point, assuming he’s unlynchable tomorrow, is town. The only way to bypass Wylted’s L-1 mechanic is the Vote Thief simultaneously putting the last two votes on him. For all you youngsters, games are designed to be balanced. Town has counters to scum, and scum has counters to town.
7) Here is my response to Post 516. Couple of things here. Yes, Austin gave the Vote Thief designed to cause the very chaos that Savant describes. That’s the entire purpose of the vote thief: to sow chaos. Here’s the problem with him using the Double Vote in the Shirt situation. Whoever the Vote Thief hammers with the stolen vote is automatically suspicious. Thus, the only way the vote stealing benefits scum is if the scum partner’s vote is stolen and used to hammer, or alternatively Savant can gain the town cred and hammer and take it for himself without much suspicion. What’s the obvious ploy here?
8) Savant pulled the “why is Pie inactive” line on me when I explicitly stated I’m on vacation. Not only that, he doubles down on the fact that I’m avoiding him or something by asking the “why don’t you vote me if you think I’m scum.” I explicitly said that I was reading the DP and what happened.
VTL Savant.
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@Savant
Exactly the kind of thing I expected to hear from scum Pie. If Pie is scum, he literally has every reason to read me as scum and ignore anything that would make me town, despite it being conceded by basically everyone that there are good reasons to think I might be town, at the very least. I'm taking pressure off Earth for now.
Can you read? I was responding in order. Nothing of what you said makes you “town” by any means. You’re grasping at straws.
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@Lunatic
@Casey_Risk
See above
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@Earth
@Barney
@WyIted
@JoeBob
@Moozer325
Let me explain once again why Savant has to be scum while responding to all his claims.
Go, on daddy's calling. After you lynch me, just remember to lynch Pie who is apparently "100% sure" I'm scum.
I’m happy that Savant doesn’t have the shot. Wylted is basically confirmed atm. Everyone should still check his claim tomorrow by putting another 4 votes on him. If he’s lying about being 100% unlynchable, then he should 100% be lynched.
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@Savant
Go, on daddy's calling. After you lynch me, just remember to lynch Pie who is apparently "100% sure" I'm scum.
It’s hyperbole but more like 99.99% sure