UPick Mafia DP1

Nice OMGUS.

Youre a scum vote thief. Your scum partner joined you Willy nilly. Probably Moozer, JoeBob, or Casey. 

Vote thief is a scum role.

As scum, you should be scared. You know that you’re giving the shot to a townie if what I am saying is correct. Why should we not let a townie take a shot?

Yeah, Austin accused me of that last game. Anyway...

You don't have any way of knowing this. In fact you said "I don’t blame Savant for claiming it, he probably didn’t know it was a super scummy role," and most of the time it is a town role for balance purposes, even if you sometimes give it to scum. But reads should not be based on a single data point anyway.

A townie shooting blind is not a net gain for town, and it is easily outweighed by the risk of giving an extra kill to scum.

And your reasoning is circular by the way.

Your logic of "letting a townie take a shot" only works if I am scum and my scum buddy backed me up with my supposed plan (another incredible leap in logic)

, and you are relying on said logic to claim that me being scared makes me scum.

I don't think we can lynch someone if we lynch rsvlts.

Lol, by definition you are OMGUS

You as a nooby scum didn’t think Vote Thief is a scummy claim.

All the experienced people know it’s scummy af.

You used it for the sole purpose of gaining town cred.

you OMGUS me

but one out of the 3 of us has to be town. Who is that person and why don’t you want to give them the Vig shot?

We can. First someone claims the shirt, then we have the remainder of the day phase to lynch someone.

what exactly does the shirt do, just give the person who votes last a vigilante kill?

Same logic that made me scum last game. Except I wasn't scum. Oops.

If I had gotten the role as scum, why wouldn't I assume it as a scum claim? Why would I assume it was a town claim, for heaven's sake? I initially assumed it was a town claim because I got it as town.

You have yet to justify this being a scum role aside from saying that it is. I provided a source. You didn't.

Why wouldn't I, when it's usually a town role?

I provided my reasons for sussing you, and it had to do with your behavior. If you were doing this to anyone else, I would be calling you out as well. Just because you accused me first doesn't give you immunity to being accused. You know this, and relying on OMGUS logic just shows how weak your case is.

I don't know who town is, hence why I don't want to take the risk. I don't see why you need this spelled out for you. No one is 100% town right now.

Town, it should be obvious right now that none of Pie's conclusions follow. Do with that information what you will.

it is always recommend for a Vig to shoot NP1. 

No it’s not.

They’re all noobs except Wylted, not that big of a leap. 

The fact you did that shows that you’re afraid that us as town are getting the shot.

Wylted, if you can confirm yourself as town, we will give you the shot. Otherwise, we should give it to no one.

Again, a strategy claim that you haven't backed up at all. Vigilante strategies are generally debated, and with a 1x vigilantes it is generally better to save the kill until one has a clear target. That's not an option now, so we get maybe a random kill this night and maybe a scum-directed kill. That's a net loss.

No response, then, as expected.

You realize that scum can talk in the scum chat, right? If I was scum and had a plan like this, you don't think I would prepare my partner to not implicate themselves?

Or I'm town and don't want to give it to possible scum.

You’re OMGUS me is a fact. Whether it’s scummy or not, is different.

Cause you didn’t know it was a scum claim. You could’ve also had the MafiaScum website ready. Or you just thought you could pull the I’m confirmable stuff and skate by. At best this is WIFOM.

You can ask Lunatic, Earth, Wylted. Most experienced players...MafiaScum can go to hell.

As town, you would use it to steal the role of a scum member.

So you have no reads besides “Pie is scum for being aggressive.”

Both of you please vote on it.

Basically because you're both accused of being scum, remove yourselves from the potential recipients, while still trying to help town get a weapon.

If one of you is correct, then only one scum is out there trying to get it; that makes it unlikely for them to win, but it can be discussed.

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Everyone else, let's please carefully get the votes within range of hammering, and if anyone jumps for it side stepping discussion, we lynch that person.

OMGUS implies I don't have a good reason to accuse you. I do, and I explained it.

No, you are the one saying "x behavior is scummy." Just because I point out it is the opposite does not mean you can suddenly accuse me of WIFOM. And why would it not be a scum claim if I got it as scum???

Sure we can get their input, but they probably use MafiaScum as well if they are experienced.

Yeah, or to confirm my role. I can't use it at MYLO or LYLO.

I said being aggressive didn't make you town, and I am sussing you for your poor logic and justifications.

Experienced people on this site will tell you that it’s optimal. If it is a net loss, then why should we give it to you or Wylted.

No response, then, as expected.

???

WIFOM.

because 66% chance is only scenario where you’d be this hesitant, yet you don’t know who is town…

I don't care who gets the shot, as long as town collectively decides who is the target.

I thought the 1x vig was a dayvig kind of deal.