Pie Recycled Roles Mafia DP1

Pretty busy with life today sorry, will catch up later. Yeah I'm also a little bit uncomfortable with how quiet it's been about Moozer but we don't rly have any other suspects.

Okay I am the Commuter.

i feel this is safer. down with joebob lynch as well

We don't have much time but I am down with joebob if people like his claim

Yeah, commuter claim is not great.

That's four votes on Earth. No one else vote until he gets a chance to defend himself.

Alright, so Commuter it’s a 1X self-protective role. That definitely does stand out compared with the other roles claimed so far, and it’s probably the most dispensable of the ones listed so far. I don’t really see Earth as behaviorally sus for reasons I’ve already mentioned (his activity tends to increase when he’s scum), but I understand why the lack of activity would have most of us on edge.

Notably, that’s one of the games that appeared in Luna’s recycled role game (Moozer claimed Bookie from that game), so there was a slightly more limited set of options this game, regardless of who was picking them.

I distinctly remember earth as mafia in the discord last game saying “why do people claim fake claim commuter as scum”

Whiteflame can you confirm you remember him saying this? Do you think he would blatantly claim a role he thought was generally scummy to claim like that if he was scum?

Moozer was lying though, so the game wasn't actually used. And no reason Bookie couldn't have been recycled twice.

Actually, now that I think about it, there are three games that have been claimed (13 Reasons Why, Civil War Generals and Ancient Roman Battles) that have gotten used in both games. Not necessarily indicative of anything, but it does somewhat limit the likely choices Pie would make from any of them.

Maybe he was planning ahead and hoped you would defend him.

I think he discussed fake claiming BG, though could be wrong.

Honestly, sounds like a strategy I would use. "If I was scum, I would never do x..." and then do x.

Maybe look back at the discord if you still have it

Maybe, though I think even that fake claim would be unlikely to be replicated, particularly if he was scum.

You are right, I think it was body guard actually.

Commuter is one of those claims that is also commonly fake claimed so I guess I still feels with is the best option here.

Earth*

Well we weren’t even voting earth for a claim. I voted for him to be active and posts good reads and stuff. He posted a read list that was almost worse than Jordon’s yesterday and then claimed still, even though that wasn’t what we were pushing for. I have a feeling to get anything useful out of earth we are going to have to pull teeth. Doesn’t necessarily mean he is scum, but at the same time the lack of wanting to scum hunt or push the game forward at all isn’t helpful or pro town.

I am equally willing to lunch Joe on I guess because his reads were atrocious and I don’t get the vibe that he really read anything, maybe got the clifff notes from a scum buddy. I was going to pick him apart about his reads but got busy. That said the case for him is basically the same for earth. Both seem willing to just let things play out. I don’t get the feel from either player that they care about figuring this game out or helping town progress. I have never viewed joebob as a particularly strong player before but in terms of general activity and interest he seems to have considerable less this game. 0 motivation. It definitely feels different than how he plays in other games I’ve seen him in as town. Maybe I’m wrong about that.

I’m almost feeling 50/50 on him and earth. Earths claim is worse, but joebobs activity feels worse. Anyone else getting the same vibes here?

Joebob* not Jordan. On my phone so auto correct is having its way with me

I think I’d like to hear more from Austin as well. I know I was towing him earlier and he said he was busy but after the first day of arguing with savant he seems like he’s trying to let the attention shift a bit which I don’t like. I’m hoping he will be a bit more active today.

Forgot to tag you

JoeBob is confirmable though. Earth is a better lynch dp1.

I’m in a similar boat. I hate to be pushing this hard on inactives - frankly, it comes off as lazy and it has resulted in a lot of mislynches in previous games - but when the most active players come off as town based on their behavior, it’s hard not to default to them. I still don’t think we should discount Casey, and much as I still think Moozer is the scummiest based on the limited behavior we’ve gotten, I really don’t want another claim at this point. Hence:

Among claimed players, like you, it’s between JoeBob and Earth for me. Gut read says JoeBob by a small margin, since his behavior is out of sync with previous games. The Commuter claim stands out more, but my read on the town RB is largely the result of WIFOM atm.

I would say between joebob and earth just vote your favorite and those of us willing to switch votes will decide who gets lynched. I will be on at the last minute as well so I am fine 

Actually town drunk seems like a good scum RB fake claim, and I'm less sure about JoeBob's role than I was before. If Earth was scum, I think he would pick something theoretically confirmable. Bit of a WIFOM, I know, but I'm leaning JoeBob.

See above

I am actually just going to vote with lunatic here so I would focus on convincing him. If he ends up being scum, my bad for using that tactic this DP. 

I’m going to think about it for a bit and make my decision later. This is an opportunity for both JoeBob and Earth to contribute to the DP in a way that will hopefully tip the scales.