Mahabharata Mafia DP1

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@AustinL0926
I'll have you know that killing a doctor violates the Geneva Convention.
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@Savant
I'll have you know that killing a doctor violates the Geneva Convention.
Killing a doctor violates a lot of things.
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I buy moozer claim for now, but as of this moment im down to lynch savant.
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this day has gone much slower than it should have and we need need to up for it
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@Savant
Only if they're not a combatant :)
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@JoeBob
Killing a doctor violates a lot of things.
In this case, the town's odds of success.
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@AustinL0926
I buy Moozer's claim. It fits mechanically with my role, which is a day killing role - hence, Pie might have wanted a night protective role to balance it out.

It's also suspiciously specific, too specific for scum to be fakeclaiming imo.
I don't agree that its specificity makes me townread it. Scum have had plenty of time to figure out fake claims at this point and craft claims with knowledge of what's already in this game. He mainly reads as town to me for his desire to out himself early and his doing so unprompted at this point. He has shown a habit of doing this as town and I doubt that he'd be this open as scum.

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Anyways, now that I think I cleared myself more or less, I'll move on to who I think we should lynch. 

I don't really want to go after Savant. He claimed after pressure, so I think we should move on. We still have time to try and get one more claim out, so I'm ready to bandwagon anyone who hasn't yet for that. 

I still don't really want to lynch Savant for the final decision of this DP, but I don't really have a great alternative. I'm also open to not lynching maybe? 

Anyways, change my mind.
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@Moozer325
We can't ever not lynch, for that we must BLT you... Everyone, quickly BLT Moozer!

There is no typo above.

🥓🥬🦃 Moozer
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@Barney
I thought BLT was Bacon Lettuce Tomato, not Turkey

🥓🥬🍅 Barney
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@ILikePie5
That doesn't not count as my VTL
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All this talk of BLTs is making me hungry. But if we've got to BLT someone, it's gotta be Moozer. 

🥓🥬🦃 Moozer

In any case, I'd like to get Luna's thoughts on Savant's claim before we go ahead with a lynch. I'm still not fond of lynching a claimed and not CC'd Doc, but I haven't seen another suggestion that makes sense and I'm not for pursuing more information this DP. We already have more than enough claims.
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@Savant
Please give your reads, since your lynch is currently on the table.
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Also off-topic, but we should totally make BLT the equivalent of FOSing someone, only more deliciously.
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@Lunatic
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Slight Town

Barney, Lunatic, whiteflame

Neutral

Austin, Earth, Moozer, Vader

Slight Scum

JoeBob

I gave my reasons for suspecting JoeBob already. Generally, I think that scum roles are going to be negligent to push the game forward. I gave a lot of neutral reads since I don't know how most people here normally play.
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@Savant
Alright. Can you give some more reasoning? Moozer and I have posted enough that you should consider us leaning one way or another. What do you think of Vader's claim and behavior? Why do you townread the people you do?


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@AustinL0926
Despite accusing me, I thought you were town at first since you had an interest in pushing the game forward. I became a lot less certain after that, since going with your initial accusation is just playing it safe. Lynching a non-cc'd doctor is not in the interest of the town, but as scum it is your interest to get rid of me, and you don't lose much by voting for someone you've already pushed hard. It's more that your pro-town and anti-town actions cancel out than that you haven't posted enough.

Moozer has posted a bit but hasn't done much to move the game forward. Strikes me as a new player acting like a new player. Probably what he would do as town and what he would do as scum.

Vader gave his role early, which makes him more likely to be town, but that also seems like a viable strategy for scum trying to be townread. Also scum can ask Pie questions to make fakeclaims. Hasn't been putting much pressure on other players, but he's busy, so I don't know what to attribute that to.

Barney is acting the same way he did as town. His criticisms of my role seem reasonable, even if I think his conclusions are wrong.

Lunatic figured out the theme split and has said a lot that experienced players haven't challenged about the best strategy for town, so I will take thir word for it that he isn't BSing. Also, being the second person to jump on a train this early is a risk I don't think scum would take.

whiteflame has posted a lot. If he was scum I think he would have said something that didn't make sense or that would cause me to scumread him. He mostly seems to be evaluating things the way he did when he was town.
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@Earth
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Lunatic figured out the theme split - SAVANT
Savant just scumslipped hard. Notice how he didn't say "likely" or "possible" theme split, but said that Lunatic "figured [it] out" with absolute confidence. How would he know this if he didn't know the actual scum characters?


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See above.
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@Savant
Last chance. Want to explain how you know that Lunatic figured out the themesplit?
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Also if Savant flips scum (which is very likely), Luna is vaguely implicated by this btw.
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@AustinL0926
Savant just scumslipped hard. Notice how he didn't say "likely" or "possible" theme split, but said that Lunatic "figured [it] out" with absolute confidence.
How would scum know the theme split with absolute confidence??
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@AustinL0926
Want to explain how you know that Lunatic figured out the themesplit?
I thought we were all in agreement on that probably being the theme split. No one has proposed an alternative or contested it.
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And I already said "I will take their word for it that he isn't BSing." The explanation is right there, and it's extremely obvious what I mean.
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@Savant
How would scum know the theme split with absolute confidence??
Because they know what their actual characters are, of course. Absolute confidence is perhaps hyperbole, but that's certainly what it sounds like.
I thought we were all in agreement on that probably being the theme split. No one has proposed an alternative or contested it.
Mmm... sounds like a retroactive cover-up to me.
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And I already said "I will take their word for it that he isn't BSing." The explanation is right there, and it's extremely obvious what I mean.
That was clearly referring to the best strategy for town, not the themesplit.
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@AustinL0926
Absolute confidence is perhaps hyperbole, but that's certainly what it sounds like.
So regardless of whether I am town or scum, I was clearly saying "found out the theme split" to mean "probably found out the theme split." Why would I be more likely to use hyperbole as scum?

Mmm... sounds like a retroactive cover-up to me.
It's the obvious implication of what I said. Behavioral reads are based on making assumptions, and the theme split is the least contested part of this game. It's really not unreasonable for me as town to say "Luna figured out the theme split" when we're all in agreement that he did.
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@AustinL0926
That was clearly referring to the best strategy for town, not the themesplit.
Yeah but it's all in the same gist of "things Luna has said about the game." So it's reasonable to read that and see that much of Lunatic's credibility comes from him saying things that other experienced players don't contest.
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@Moozer325
That doesn't not count
Is the double negative intentional?
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@Savant
I’m getting close to voting here, so who would you have it be instead of you?