Mahabharata Mafia DP1

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@JoeBob
from my experience, if someone finds someone else scum, whatever that person does will just convince the first person that they are even more likely scum
Spoken like a scum!

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Only have a second, but I didn’t see that push on JoeBob earlier. Sticks out as scummy, will at least want a role claim before deciding on the lynch. 

No one else claim at this point.
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If I have 4 votes against me, I'll give my role.
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@Savant
It's going to happen sooner or later. If you're pro-town, you'll claim now so we still have a chance to switch to another player before the day ends.
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@Savant
Yeah, I’m going to need that role claim at this point. If there’s a good reason to hold it in reserve, fine, but it’s not reason enough to risk a mislynch.

VTL Savant
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@AustinL0926
Fine. I'm non-self-targeting doctor.
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@Savant
Justification?
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@AustinL0926
I (Abhimanyu) sacrificed myself to protect others.
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Mmm... I don't buy it. Can you link me to any info in which it is specifically mentioned that Abhimanyu helps to protect others?
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@Barney
Spoken like a scum!
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@AustinL0926
I can paraphrase the info I got from Pie:

I took the place of my father, Arjuna, in battle. I played key roles on the battlefield to prevent the deaths of my fellow warriors, drawing powerful fighters from the enemy to me and surrounding them with the Chakravyūha.
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@Savant
Alright, sorry for being so inactive, I honestly didn't realize the game had picked up so quickly. 

I promised a claim by now, so here goes.

I am Yudhishthira, eldest of the Pandava brothers. Yudhishthira was a gambler, so each night I visit one person, and if they are eliminated by the day phase, I gain a 1x commuter. (BTW pie, nice role. Really creative).

I would honestly like a claim from all three of you, savant, but that's kinda unrealistic. I find it easier when we all know each other's roles, and I think it gives us more of an advantage than it does to the Mafia, that way there are less mislynches from people who just got a little defensive, but were town. If I had to pick, I guess I would go with joebob, because he's the least active I guess? 
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@Savant
Fine. I'm non-self-targeting doctor.
Ugh, why would you specify that you can’t self-target?

Also, how does this make sense for your character? He’s a warrior who died fighting a lot of people. Doesn't seem protective, certainly not a Doc. It might make some sense as a BG, but unless Pie was really hurting for protective roles, I don’t really see it.

Wouldn’t be surprised if this got CC’d.
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@Savant
Sorry just saw that you claimed. I disagree with Austin, that one makes sense, especially seeing as we have had some more uncommon roles this round, and you need to sprinkle in a few classics. IDK tho.
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Official Vote Count:

Savant (3/5) - Austin, Lunatic
JoeBob (1/5) - Savant






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@whiteflame
My guess is that Savant panicked under pressure and used his question to ask Pie for a fakeclaim. Doctor seems like a natural attempt at a fakeclaim, since it's simultaneously fairly common but also unlikely to appear in this particular theme.
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@Moozer325
I think I get what you're implying here. What name did Pie give to your role?
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For what it's worth, I do think Pie is stretching a bit with these role justifications (maybe to balance the game). Moozer's character connection is a bit odd as well.
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@Moozer325
…why would you claim? We already had plenty of claims on the table and you had no votes on you. I get that you said this is what you wanted to do early in the DP, but it’s still giving away too much info.

Also, why the 1X Commuter? I buy the Gambler, but what makes the Commuter make sense? The role usually comes with a 1X Vig reward, just seems odd.
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Dashboard          Role                 Char                 DP1
1. Barney            not hunter       Shikhandi
2. Lunatic            ???
3. Austin              Supersaint      Dhrishtadyumna
4. Whiteflame   ???
5. Moozer           Commuter        Yudhishthira
6. JoeBob          ???
7. Earth               ???                    Pandavas
8. Vader          *  Victim              Ghatoktach
9. Savant           Doctor              Abhimanyu



Moozer is firmly in my town pile. My role was also really creative.

Savant... Pretty much not voting him right now because I believe he deserves to live into DP2 for a change. His description sounds way more like bodyguard than doctor, except bodyguards die...
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@AustinL0926
My guess is that Savant panicked under pressure and used his question to ask Pie for a fakeclaim. Doctor seems like a natural attempt at a fakeclaim, since it's simultaneously fairly common but also unlikely to appear in this particular theme.
Maybe, though I also don’t want to autolynch a Doc. Almost did that with BK a couple of games ago when he claimed Doc and looked behaviorally scummy and it turned out he was town. I’ll wait to see if there’s a CC or near CC, then decide.
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I think the commuter is just a reward for picking correctly, and doesn't really have anything to do with the character.

I claimed, because like I said, I believe that it gives us more of an advantage than the Mafia. So what if they have slightly better info on who to kill. We will all be on the same page, and in this game, communication is key.

Pie just called me a "Gambler".  Oh, and BTW, the commuter can be saved if I don't want to use it that night.


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@Barney
Pie described my role as a "gambler" not a commuter, FYI.
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Official Vote Count:

Savant (3/5) - Austin, Lunatic
JoeBob (1/5) - Savant
Please verify that count.
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@Savant
For what it's worth, I do think Pie is stretching a bit with these role justifications (maybe to balance the game). Moozer's character connection is a bit odd as well.
His role is a bit strange. The Gambler connection makes sense, though from what I’ve read, he’s far from the only character who gambles quite a bit in this story. The Commuter aspect I don’t really get. The character himself is pretty major, but given how many claims we have at this point, I don’t think that’s very telling at this point.
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Official Vote Count:

Savant (3/5) - Austin, Lunatic, WF
JoeBob (1/5) - Savant


Thanks for catching that
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@whiteflame
The way I would justify it is that the commuter doesn't have anything to do with the role, and it's just a reward for guessing right. Think about it, what reward would you have instead?
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@Moozer325
The way I would justify it is that the commuter doesn't have anything to do with the role, and it's just a reward for guessing right. Think about it, what reward would you have instead?
I don’t have a good answer for that because I’m not trying to design the role. It’s a decent protective perk, and Pie might just have needed more protective roles, so it’s plausible.
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I buy Moozer's claim. It fits mechanically with my role, which is a day killing role - hence, Pie might have wanted a night protective role to balance it out.
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It's also suspiciously specific, too specific for scum to be fakeclaiming imo.