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@RationalMadman
Yes, being incapable of doing something does tend to preclude action.
Battlebots Mafia Endgame
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@RationalMadman
whiteflame was perfectly aware he could roleblock if his teammate performed the factional kill, he mentioned it in discord several times insofar as blocking your N2 investigation.
Wylted could act on any night, but that's really not as OP as you think. 1-shot means that he can only use 1 out of the 3 abilities, leaving the other 2 wasted. Roleblocker was probably the weakest out of the 3.
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@AustinL0926
whiteflame was perfectly aware he could roleblock if his teammate performed the factional kill, he mentioned it in discord several times insofar as blocking your N2 investigation.
Then why did he give up his NP1 roleblocking if he's unlimited?
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@RationalMadman
Because he's an Even-night roleblocker...?
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@AustinL0926
Wylted could act on any night, but that's really not as OP as you think. 1-shot means that he can only use 1 out of the 3 abilities, leaving the other 2 wasted. Roleblocker was probably the weakest out of the 3.
so he couldn't use all 3 at different times? That's how your wording makes it seem.
To me and others that's how every single one of us took it it seems.
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@AustinL0926
I was betting it was going to be Wylted and Rational arguing but I did not expect you and Rational to be the ones
You may use one of the following abilities once per game
I really don't see how this leaves any ambiguity. Saying that "You may use one of the following abilities" is clear, and adding "once per game" merely clarifies this.
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@JoeBob
I like to think of it as a process of constructive criticism.
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@AustinL0926
Whiteflame's team had a completely powerless teammate who only had passive ascetic which can help the other team by disrupting invesigations and analysis. Whiteflame has roleblocker only on even nights even if his teammate kills on the odd.
This is not how anything in the PM was worded and is why I was so confused at how Wylted could do anything to me while ijb1 killed me.
Wylted has permanent godfather even while killing which is superior to 'no result' because cop will literally clear him and can instead use ninja and appear innocent to tracker etc really messing Town up.
The Strongman option is also confusing as your role descriptions towards BK for his BP night and also to Lunatic make it appear you're literally making them immune to nightkills not just 'saving' or 'vesting' but immunising them to nightkills no matter what which strongman then proves wrong later.
If, let's say, Wylted slowplayed the game (which he should have given his role) and we didn't have a gamethrower with 7k's role, all you've done is make absolute hell and chaos because tracker and cop on even nights can barely do anything functional to help Town (especially the cop) and the scum function in ways that make no real sense to the others.
The only scum person who had a role I'd say is solid, balanced and makes sense in the game is ijb1. Could ijb1 stalk on even nights btw, if he didn't kill?
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@AustinL0926
You may use one of the following abilities once per game
Considering how confusing other wordings have been that makes it seem to a fast reader like he's able to use them once per game but I did notice that was worded stranger than 'each' and didn't know what to make of it.
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@AustinL0926
Lunatic protects Barney
This is a bit crazy to me, why didn't he selfsave? I would have, in his shoes.
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@RationalMadman
Yes, yes, no, no, no, kinda, yes, and no, respectively.
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@RationalMadman
I definitely would have self-saved as well, but you could make the argument that tracker gets stronger as the # of players decreases.
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@AustinL0926
I only asked 2 things I think.
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@AustinL0926
I expected some ninja power but to have a passive permanent godfather and a passive permanent ascetic is insane.
I could only catch 2 mafia members and had 2 capable of roleblocking me. This game could have been much uglier had Wylted slowplayed.
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@whiteflame
If you had Joebob's or Wylted's (especially Wylted's) role, we'd be singing a very different tune rn.
Lunatic protects BarneyThis is a bit crazy to me, why didn't he selfsave? I would have, in his shoes.
It was a gamble that didn’t pay off. Figured mafia would think I would self save and go for Barney instead. Oh well
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@ijb1
@JoeBob
Your guys activity being low also didn’t help your case imo.
Totally called that’s Wylted made you counter claim jailer for confirmation as well.
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@RationalMadman
If you had Joebob's or Wylted's (especially Wylted's) role, we'd be singing a very different tune rn.
Maybe so, I appreciate that you think I would have handled those roles well.
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@Lunatic
It was a gamble that didn’t pay off. Figured mafia would think I would self save and go for Barney instead. Oh well
I had a hunch that you wouldn’t. Ended up paying off.
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@Lunatic
That’s fair. I could have been much more active, especially on that last day. But I most likely have the flu and I didnt feel like doing mafia when I was sick. Sorry to my scum partner.
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@JoeBob
There is a nasty flu going around worldwide past couple months could be new version of COVID even.
There is a nasty flu going around worldwide past couple months could be new version of COVID even
Thats great news that they upgraded covid.
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@JoeBob
I feel scum could have won if Wylted didn’t admit he was scum.
I fucked up several times. I thought I would be insta lynched without discussion if I didn't. After the cop result I was annoyed. By the way there was No kill happening until NP3 and protective roles so a cop should not have been in the game in my opinion
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@Lunatic
Totally called that’s Wylted made you counter claim jailer for confirmation as well.
That was annoying, we also were given that role as a safe fakeclaim from Austin so there ideally should have been no risk in claiming it. You played well. Had town listened to you instead of RM the game would have been procedurally over. RM still almost lead the town to defeat by almost lynching BK at the end and in fact that part was an easy and obvious no lynch situation as well
The CC was the nail in the coffin for whiteflame but it was very stupid to trust the cop result at all after it was outted. If I copped anyone it would make me think I was likely redirected and the result should not be the end all be all as well.
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@WyIted
Why the fuck would I NL? I'd just die.
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@WyIted
You're using one mistake at the end to make it out like I was wrong earlier.
Look at how whiteflame reacted after the guilty. He was a wounded animal showing me it's stomach in submission.
Apologies for the random inactivity. I genuinely forgot about the game
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@Lunatic
In my defense, I am unironically very busy IRL and Wylted did not do me many favors in terms of his behavior and recommendations.