Battlebots Mafia DP1

Any protective roles will take priority over the factional bulletproof being used. For example, if Faction 1 targets town on NP1, town will lose its factional bulletproof, and be vulnerable to Faction 2.

Scum are given fakeclaims with videos.

Your video mixup doesn't confirm him as Town btw.

Anybody one the scum teams just want to fess up and help us kill the opposite scum team?

You keep your partner secret if you think it is a high risk play and want to remain you ability to win, but we could help you eliminate the other scum team. So we essentially will lynch somebody we think is scum but not your partner and then you can attempt to vig the other one? Or do the equivalent of a vig?

It's high risk for you but if anybody wants to fess up as scum we can work together to eliminate the other faction and make it a 1 vs 1 game?

If I vote Wylted or 7kseires rn is looks like I am scummy.

Both are genuinely scummy for what they're doing.

This post from wylted feels town to me

Was he town in those games you mentioned? I haven't played with this individual so some context would be nice. 

He was in the last two games and while I only did a bit of reading into the Wylted mafia game, I was involved in the Indie Games Mafia. In both games, he was town.

He does tend to just pick someone and tunnel them for a while without reasoning (he did so for Pie last game, who actually was scum), so his decision to make RM his target this game is a null tell to me. He also jumped targets and proceeded to do the same thing again in the middle of the DP before saying shit like this after his behavior was called out:

It looks like i'm already dead, and maybe I deserved that, but that doesn't make me the Mafia boss.

Notably, it's a more defeatist post than anything he's posted here so far. A couple of people jumped on the fact that he specifically said he wasn't the "Mafia boss" and there were some concerns with his claim, particularly since he soft-claimed a PR by saying:

My role IS useful, but I can't share it. 

...before just straight up claiming vanilla. That stuck out to me in particular, as did his intransigence when it came to explaining why he said that.

This post from wylted feels town to me

Eh, its closer to blatant trolling than town.

Its not scummy nor town in my opinion.

Any scum team outing themselves would lose the game, so it would only work if both scums are new and clueless in one team.

Also, if WyIted is one of the scums in one team, it would be most  beneficial to him to try and eliminate the other scum team by telling them to out themselves.

Since this is a pretty important mechanic that I haven't seen implemented in other games, I'll explain how it works.

Each faction, Faction 1, Faction 2, and town have a factional bulletproof. This means that the first time that one of their members is killed, then that factional bulletproof will be used. However, if a protective role is being used instead, it will take priority, meaning that the factional bulletproof will not be used.

For example:

On N1, Faction 1 shoots town. No one dies, but the factional bulletproof is used. On N2, Faction 2 shoots town. The townie dies.

OR:

On N1, Faction 1 shoots town that is being protected by another townie. No one dies, and the factional bulletproof is not used. On N2, Faction 2 shoots town, and the factional bulletproof is finally used.

I know that this seems quite complicated, but it was the only way I could figure out to balance a game so that scum couldn't achieve parity too quickly and crosskills wouldn't swing the game so dramatically, while also making it so protective roles were still useful.

Interesting he plays like this and happens to be right both times though isn't it? Kind of screams multi account to me but could just be a coincidence. Have mods checked IP's of players to make sure there are no matches just out of curiosity? Not that the average person couldn't figure out a vpn but still worth checking into...

I would really look into the multi account thing. 

VTL 7000series

At this point, I'm willing to put down a vote on 7k to get a full claim. Maybe this is just like WyIted says and 7k just doesn't care about the game, but he's playing it far more fast and loose this time and it comes off as scummy in a distinct way from his previous games.

Funny that you mention it, as this concern came up in an entirely different context. Much as it is outside the scope of this game, it nonetheless affects it, so I can confirm that it has been looked into and that I have not found evidence of multi accounting from 7k.

Is is stated in the following day phase whether or not a factional bulletproof has been used?

mafia really don't have any reason to priority target the other scum team

Am I allowed to vote for myself?

I mean if he was right about scum both times it kind of stands to reason he would be more confident with it as he progresses, don't you think?

Rational Madman is in faction 1, and he will kill on odd nights. We need to get him out first.

Interesting... Could still be VPN but no real use in trying to spearhead that investigation. Not really sure how you could prove it. 

You asked why you felt convinced by the line by 7kseries that is clearly substance less and yet gives a false promise:

want to tear the establishment apart and never let you in on the fact they'd be the new establishment.

This is a scum slip. From your perspective you shouldn't be automatically accepting my beliefs as honest, especially considering as you claim not to own read me.