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2 out of 10 sorry for the mess up I genuinely forgot it changed for a second
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My argument is I used my day cop on him and he was guilty so it seems strongly founded to me. 
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@JoeBob
RM's counterclaim I thought
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@JoeBob
Cc is counterclaim

Hammer is last vote on a lynch
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@WyIted
Why didn't you use it on a player like me?

Don't ask what player like me means when contrasted to 7k.
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The problem is that we have to trust your word on that. There's not much indication that you are that role, but also not much indication otherwise. That's why I don't see it particularly grounded in fact
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*that was to Wylted
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Ok, thanks.
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You can @ people by clicking the bottom right of their post. You can quote them but need to paste it in.
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You can @ people by clicking the bottom right of their post. You can quote them but need to paste it in.
Usually I just typed it in the mentions box, but thanks for the tip anyways
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VTL 7000series

Supa has had plenty of time to post, and joebob still has time to post thoughts, willing to unvote if anything new comes up.

Where it stands 7k is the best option here. If he is town I am at least hoping there was some logic to this play maybe we can read into. If there is no logic for his actions and he's just trolling I say we just black list him from mafia in future games. I at least won't play with a player who literally plays just to take up a slot and sh1tpost with no intention of playing to his wincon.

I am slightly scum reading RM for his behavior (specifically how damned defensive he got against 7k in the beginning and his omgus towards wylted). I think scum are trying to distance themselves from each other here. RM and wylted could both very well be scum in this situation despite my current town leaning on wylted. They could be using this CC situation to make it seem like they are not on the same team, and lets be real, RM has been hard on wylted all day even prior to the claim situation. Also claiming that there is "Art" to what he is doing. I fail to see the art in his playstyle if he is town, but I can definitely see it if he is scum and trying to make it seem that he and wylted are on different teams if they are in fact in the same mafia group. The whole "art" post to me definitely seems to be bragging about something and I just don't see anything pro town his "art" has contributed to. 

As it stands I don't buy wylted's claim, but I also think I know what he is doing if he is town so I'll let it play out in future day phases and see if his play is consistent with the strategy I think he is using. 
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@JoeBob
Ok everyone is saying CC. Who or what is CC?
Counter claim. Its where two people are claiming to have the same role, generally you call it a CC because mafia has failed in coming up with a fake claim and used one that was already given to town. 
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@Lunatic
I made 7k try. I made him stop selfvoting and suiciding.

That's art.

How I did this lies in making him realise he actually can win if he tries to be reasonable. I made him realise he can't say gotcha idiots if he flipped town and have it hit home to me.
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I made 7k try. I made him stop selfvoting and suiciding.

That's art.
He still seems pretty trolly to me. 
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@Lunatic
I think we are voting off an important non-investigative. Town PR.

Be careful voting who you vote. I haven't scumread you until this contradiction between you saying you read Wylted as scum and voting 7k.
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He's scum so we want him to self vote
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@Lunatic
So?

I don't even care to brag at this point.

I care to win.
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@WyIted
You never answered me, why did you investigate 7k instead of me?
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@RationalMadman
I think we are voting off an important non-investigative. Town PR.

Be careful voting who you vote. I haven't scumread you until this contradiction between you saying you read Wylted as scum and voting 7k.

7k has  had plenty of opportunity to change or sway our minds and blatantly refused to do so. If your gonna act like a terrorist, time to get treated like one. He's holding his claim hostage, and hasn't let on any reason for us to believe he's doing it for a townie reason. The second he claimed inside knowledge about who scum is he should have been doing this. Also the post deletion kind of seals the deal for me. There is never any pro town reason to delete a post in mafia.
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@Lunatic
You'd genuinely play against your winconditon just to teach someone else a lesson?

Doesn't surprise me you're that type of thinker.

Does surprise me you don't realise how stupid as fuck it would be if I was scum with Wylted to not hammer 7k and enable the bandwagon on Wylted.

You're falling apart for the first time all day. Is your partner Wylted?

This is so weird as I Townread you all day until this bs.

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At this point, I feel like I've seen the arguments from both sides and honestly whiteflame and lunatic are pretty convincing. I'm not completely rigid with this decision and am willing to discuss this and change later, but for the moment I see voting 7k as the right move.

VTL 7000series
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@ijb1
How did anything lunatic said convince you to vote 7k?

He literally scumreads Wylted. You're lying.
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Unless we are all certain that 7k is scum I say that we should just stop trying to grill him. He’s not going to give any information up no matter how hard you try. We could vote him but he’s just wasting time.
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@JoeBob
Vote Wylted right now, even if you are scum.
Please.

Give us a chance.

This is BS.

Wylted can't even justify why he investigated the worst player here.
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@RationalMadman
Can you show me when that happened? I'm also confused by your argument that Wylted would specifically come after you (if he was cop, he had little to no information to go off and 7k was acting weird at the beginning). Perhaps I'm missing some context?
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@ijb1
No. You show me. You show me where lunatic convinced you to vote 7kseries.

You claimed he convinced you to.
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@WyIted
Why did you investigate 7k?
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I play with not just a garbage player but other town partner who'd rather teach him a lesson than play to win
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@RationalMadman
Depending on Wylteds answer is whether I will vote him. Until he answers I’m not voting anyone.