Election Integrity (evidence of lack)

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Do you have doubts about the integrity of the American election system?

I was thinking about it lately because a psychic warned that Trump would win the election but in the end Kamala is going to govern the US which left us with one possibility, that there is going to be a massive fraud.

There is another possibility, that the republicans get so confident about Trump's victory that they end up not going to vote and finally not reaching the needed votes for Trump's victory. Trump is heading the polls by a great margin, but this will become real only if the potential voters go to vote.

What is your take on that? Do you lean to the massive fraud or the reckless attitude of the republican?
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So you think that if Kamala wins is because Republicans don't give a shit about the elections.

I'm going to prepare some spanish lessons for this forum so you can deal with the fucking inmigrants over the next 4 years. Haha. 
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There is also the remote possibility that something terrible happens in the US right after the elections, something that makes Biden step aside to let Harris get in charge.

Hope nothing bad happens but the psychic also claimed to have seen the military in the streets.
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A continuation of post #145 about the DOJ suing to keep illegal voters on the voter rolls.

What has happened in the meantime is that pseudo-judges Patricia Giles, Toby Heytens, Albert Diaz, and Stephanie Thacker have joined the deep state in its attack on democracy:


The panel emphasized, as Giles did in her initial ruling, that the state is within its rights to remove noncitizens from the voter rolls, even during the 90-day quiet period, but must do so in an individualized process rather than the systematic process relying on data transfers from the DMV.
So illegal voters can be automatically registered, but not automatically un-registered. These are the transparent lies and excuses of the enemies of democracy.

The issue is being appealed to the US supreme court, whose cowardice in the face of attacks on democracy and the constitution is legendary. The enemies of democracy list expands:

Psuedojudges:

1. Richard E Myers II, Chief US district 'judge' in North Carolina. See 5.24-cv-00547-M-RJ Doc 58 "Suing too late" is obviously a fraudulent argument.

2. Patricia Giles, psuedojudge in Virginia. Same reason as Albert Diaz.

3. Toby Heytens, fake judge of appellate clown-court "4th circuit" in Virginia 2024. Same reason as Albert Diaz.

4. Albert Diaz, chief fake judge of appellate clown-court "4th circuit" in Virginia 2024. Fraudulently ruled that self-identified non-citizens must be kept on voter rolls. It was an assault on democracy that self identified non-citizens were even added to the voter rolls. A real democracy would have correlated data with the census bureau and not required self-identification much less ignore the self-identification for the purposes of expanding the voter roll and thus potential stolen identities for mail fraud. To actively prevent repair of the breach makes one a "combatant" in the assault on democracy. See "VIRGINIA DOJ SUES To Stop Non Citizens Being REMOVED From Voter Rolls, SHADOW CAMPAIGN Has Begun.mp4"

5. Stephanie Thacker, fake judge of appellate clown-court "4th circuit" in Virginia 2024. Same reason as Albert Diaz.

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TL;DR: if the post office fails to post mark ballot envelopes (whoops, or maybe the ballots weren't mailed because they were inserted by cheaters) they can be counted for an unlimited amount of time after the election.

TL;DR: more dropboxes lit on fire

TL;DR: 1.2 million ineligible voter records intentionally kept on the books, do we really believe she is keeping this database out of the hands of people who would be willing to cheat?
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So for you Harris is going to win with the votes of the inmigrants?

No wonder why they let the inmigrants in so easily. 
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So for you Harris is going to win with the votes of the inmigrants?
I have no idea who is going to "win" in either sense:
1.) Get the most number of legitimate ballots, since there is no election integrity the number of illegitimate ballots cannot be quantified therefore the number of legitimate ballots is also unconstrained.
2.) Get inaugurated as congress officially recognizes one candidate as the winner, since there are many factors that affect this including the number of fraudulent votes vs the number of people waking up to the lies of the deep state (and there are many, never before have two former democrat candidates for the presidency joined the republican nominee).

I do not believe in any case that a large number of illegal immigrants or legal immigrants are voting. Legal immigrants tend to follow the law and know they aren't allowed. Illegal immigrants are focused on a hundred other things and would only do it if they were paid, and the smarter ones would be worried about the attempt being a trigger condition for getting deported first.


I do think that illegal immigrants are registered to vote and kept on voter rolls so that the voter rolls have a large padding of people who won't attempt to vote. People on the registry who won't attempt to vote are precisely the pool of people, or rather names, that are used for mail fraud.

In other words cheaters pretending to be immigrants, illegal immigrants, or real (but not political) citizens would be sending in ballots in their name, and that is much more significant than illegals trying to vote directly.


A reminder: Once the mail ballot is separated from the envelope there is no way to repair the damage. The cheaters know they only need to resist the law until then because after that happens all the judges are too cowardly to invalidate the whole ballot pile no matter how egregious a vulnerability for cheating was created.
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Saved to hard drive. For the benefit of the search engines:

"I will kill you if you don't answer me!"
"your days are numbered bitch"
"Gonna fucking find you and skin you alive and use your skin for fucking toilet paper, you fucking KKKunt!"
- John Pollard, democrat assaulting democracy by threatening poll workers.

Recall all the pearl clutching done by left-tribers about "death threats" and "intimidating voters". Time to add a new category to the enemies of democracy list:

Individuals threatening violence against honest election workers or candidates:


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Video of democrats shipped in Pennsylvania and eelection workers escorting the illegals in front of a 2 hour line to vote. 
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Republican voters not being allowed to vote. Bucks County PA

https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1851386347597996084
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GOP WINS, SCOTUS Rules Non Citizens MUST BE REMOVED From Voter Rolls, Democrats SUED To KEEP THEM ON
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GOP WINS, SCOTUS Rules Non Citizens MUST BE REMOVED From Voter Rolls, Democrats SUED To KEEP THEM ON
Saved, continuation of #145 and #156.

Although this resolved in favor of the law, I still consider the whole sequence strong evidence for the lack of election integrity. Think of all the insane failure that occurred before it reached the supreme court:

1.) Biggest point, they were added to voter rolls in the first place. Most people register to vote through state MVAs, that is precisely where this list of non-citizens was compiled from. The other ways typically are more annoying and require more proof of citizenship and residency (or at least they are supposed to by law). It very unusual for a person to abandon their US citizenship and still live in the USA, unheard of.

There should have been no legal way for non-citizens to be added to the voter rolls. If there were laws that allowed it they would be unconstitutional. The only reasonable explanation was intentional violation of election law in order to commit fraud. In the words of Joe Rogan "It's got to be cheating, there is no other reason for it".

2.) The DOJ dared to join the criminal conspiracy

3.) A district psuedojudge joined the conspiracy

4.) Appellate psuedojudges joined the conspiracy

All four layers are criminals who should face punishment for their crimes against democracy, after all I'm sure they don't believe in immunity for official acts.

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Two others:


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Video of democrats shipped in Pennsylvania and eelection workers escorting the illegals in front of a 2 hour line to vote. 
Saved. Nothing in the video proves or even casts reasonable suspicion of them being illegals, but the guy was a witness to what sounded like giving a fraudulent name.

Cutting the line might be explained if they were only dropping off mail-in-ballots; but that doesn't require interaction with a pollbook worker which is where I assume the conversation about not finding the name would come up.

It is also questionable as to whether democracy can really be said to be served when people are spending huge amounts of money to target people to take to the polls on busses and such. What if they paid them to take the day off?

I support a national holiday for voting, but nothing else should be done to promote voting. If people would rather relax on a day off than vote then they are not the kind of people whose opinions should matter.

As soon as you make it legal to spend money or use influence to make it easier for some people, that will become an avenue for buying an election.
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Oct. 30

Voters in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, who want to cast a mail-in ballot in person can do so until Friday afternoon, a Pennsylvania judge ruled, after the Trump campaign sued to extend early voting, following reports that some voters were turned away and not allowed to vote when early mail-in voting initially closed Tuesday, despite being in line to vote before the 5 p.m. deadline.

So it's ok to disenfranchise voters sometimes?
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So it's ok to disenfranchise voters sometimes?
As long as it is to convenience local government, never if it's to prevent fraud.
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A non-citizen caught attempting to vote in Michigan.

This is not an example integrity because they got lucky and caught this one. Clearly you just have to say "I'm a citizen" on a MVA form and everybody just believes you until proven otherwise. I think the appropriate sound track for some of the entries in this thread are "dum dum dum dum" from South Park's mormon episode.

"See, you believe it now?"
"Well yeah sure, why would he make it up?"
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There are a lot of stories floating around and a lot of them are in long livestreams that aren't ideal for saving or posting.

Here is a continuation of #147

The thumbnail is "we knew it was them" and that pretty much sums it up.

For all my talk of small conspiracy sizes, and those are still probably the vast majority; there are bound to be some larger conspiracies and this appears to be one of them.

The company called "FieldCorps" and "Field and Media Corps" is based in Arizona, another state with plenty of evidence of election subversion. The company's website listed a number of democratic campaign as clients including "Biden-Harris, Mark Kelly, and Arizona Democrats."

In plain speak, a company being paid by the Harris campaign tried to tender thousands of fraudulent voter registrations including a dead person.

As I have said before in this thread and on this forum, they aren't looking for dead people to register; they don't know they're dead. The reason dead voters are smoking guns is because dead people don't register to vote whether a democrat voter fraud conspiracy knows they are dead or not.
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I might comment more on these later:


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No direct evidence in this one, but the points made are strong:


Especially around 6:36 with the bar chart and the bellwether counties which miraculously after being right for decades were all wrong in 2020 but are back to being all right in 2024.

9 days later

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I have seen since this latest election many people say "what happened to voter fraud suddenly everyone went quiet".

The reason they have stopped complaining is that they think it was "too big to rig" that the level of fraud which is possible without even further detection (for we have certainly detected some see this thread) was insufficient to overcome the sheer majority of people which have rejected the deep state candidates.

Based on certain patterns such as failure to vote down-ballot for republicans I now fear that Trump made some kind of deal with the cheaters (the deep state) in which they would allow him to become president, but they would use an apparently (but not truly) right-tribe majority in senate and house to impede him such that he would appear to be trying to carry out his promises but would be unable to, specifically on those which are most objectionable to the deep state:

Election Integrity
International Peace

That is by definition a conspiracy theory and one which is far from proven, but if after two years we find everything delivered as Trump claims except no one has heard about election integrity and "unfortunately" the foreign wars continued and expanded that will support this theory.

I am a single issue voter. Honesty is all I care about. There is no point in comparing the promises of liars and honest men because the promises of liars are lies. Therefore there is no reason to discuss policy when the policy of liars is whatever benefits their secret agenda.

I do not find it to be a coincidence that one of the candidates to be left off the podium is Kari Lake in Arizona. Maricopa county has been an epicenter of proven dirty election subversion. Kari Lake isn't just a right-triber or MAGA hatter, she is a single issue candidate (more or less). She cares about election integrity above all else. She would not be convinced to shut up about it and neither will I.

I deeply hope that Trump did not make this deal, or if he did he plans to double cross them and restore democracy to the united states. I don't agree with the majority on many things, democracy is not sound as moral theory, but practically democracy is the only powerful tool against corruption and dishonesty for the time being.

I also have two more particularly disturbing pieces of evidence for Colorado and Pennsylvania:


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definitely too big to rig
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definitely too big to rig
I hope so, but since a theory that has no predictive power is worthless; how would you explain it if in two years Trump has done nothing to secure elections?

It has been such a central issue to his rhetoric since the introduction of mass mail ballots that to apparently forget about it would necessitate some form of dishonesty. At the most generous he never really believed there was cheating so now he doesn't care, and at the worst, like I described; he has joined with the cheaters.

Are you willing to go on record and predict that he will make significant moves (not just talk) to secure the elections in the next two years?
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how would you explain it if in two years Trump has done nothing to secure elections?
It's not his job. The only way to get people to get upset at cheating is to cheat more.
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Democrats ADMIT To Counting Illegal Ballots In Attempt To OVERTHROW Senate Election From Republican!
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how would you explain it if in two years Trump has done nothing to secure elections?
It's not his job.
It's somebody's job and the courts have as a whole said "not it".


The only way to get people to get upset at cheating is to cheat more.
So after they're upset then what?

We pass a law? We start to enforce existing laws?

That's what Trump & this supposed majority can do. If they try.


Democrats ADMIT To Counting Illegal Ballots In Attempt To OVERTHROW Senate Election From Republican!
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Most corruption is done at the state level. That's why there needs to be more outrage in those states. If Republicans (successfully) cheat enough, the local election laws will change.