The War On Children - 2hr documentary is AMAZINGLY produced/executed

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I provided an example and you just said "outlier" I could provide 10 more and you would say the same thing. I find it hard that this thing that has been all over the media you haven't seen because right-wing sites will actually show pictures from the books. All I can think of is that you are a partisan hack that only follows left wing sources. 
That's a good call. He'll post a source himself with 4 examples contradicting his conclusion and still ignore it.
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That's not what sex ed is for
that's my point, they're teaching you how to actually fuck each other safely rather than teaching you the actual safest outlet ever, because of irrational hierarchy of what's worse to teach.
Well they don't need to be taught how to masturbate. It's safe, and easy to figure out. So if you don't want them to know how to fuck each other safely there really isn't much to teach. Maybe how to access porn without infecting your computer with spyware but honesty OS improvements have made that easy and it's hard to grasp just how computer competent the newer generations are already.

I doubt any teen who wants to have sex with other teens is holding off in lieu of a sex ed class. They can find out anything they want with google.

Now there is theory and practice, and the fact that they have books with graphic anal rape scenes and they insist on it (calling it book banning if you object) tells me they're not exactly "sticking to the facts".

So if you're saying they're not just warning but encouraging I don't particularly doubt it.
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Actually, children are often shamed for masturbating or watching porn.

I think sex education is supposed to include that there is no shame or harm in masturbation.

It would greatly help children with religious parents, since we know all the lies religious people spread about masturbation even today.
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Also, religious people spread lies such as that semen retention turns you into some sort of a super human.

Of course, the entire science disagrees.

There is not a single study which ever pointed to any benefits of never masturbating.
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It would greatly help children with religious parents, since we know all the lies religious people spread about masturbation even today.
Yea when you, who have advocated for reducing the age of consent, admit that your goal is to undermine the religion of parents; things don't go well.

I'd like to see a more sexually liberal world more than most, but not by brainwashing the kids with the explicit presumption that traditional parents are the problem. That is the kind of thing that causes handmaid tale backlash.

Convince adults. They will teach their kids. This is the proper way.

Even now there is a backlash in the youngest generations, predictable as ever. All children rebel against indoctrination, it's instinctual. The fact that they are rebelling against the LGBT cult is further evidence that they were indoctrinated.


Also, religious people spread lies such as that semen retention turns you into some sort of a super human.
Some do. We don't need classes explaining how astrology is bullshit and mana crystals aren't real. Teach kids reason and they will become the fishermen.
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I dont see how is my opinion on age of consent relevant to masturbation?

Traditional parents are the problem, as they literally brainwash kids  into believing God hates them if they masturbate.

I remember reading a story about a girl who got hit by lightning while masturbating, and some Christian trolls said "God punished her for sinning (masturbating)".

You have to understand that Christians and traditional parents are the fortress of evil and most of anti-reason.

I dont know why someone like you defends traditional families.

I thought you are into bestiality?

Anyway, you say "convince adults".

Thats nonsense.

Christians cannot be convinced into anything, since the reasoning ability usually dies when person is religious for too long.

You say rebelling is evidence of brainwashing.

Is it?

Well, many children rebel against their Christian parents, but also many children get turned by brainwashing and continue to spread Christian hate to themselves and others.

You say "teach kids reason", but masturbation is reasonable and healthy, so good job using logic there.
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I saw this post on a Christian site.

I have seen so many posts about porn addiction and masturbation in this sub I thought it was time someone stated the obvious to remove the shame and fear that radiates from these posts.
God is with you when you masturbate. Shame is stopping you from having a relationship with him not the other way around.
God will never leave you. The idea of doing something in secret apart from God is ridiculous. The idea of being ashamed or fearful or punishment from God is also ridiculous since God is Love and God is Mercy.
He wants a relationship with you. Sin isn't going to stop him, it will only stop you.
Forget about your sin, Jesus has dealt with it, cast it from your mind and focus on who God is and what joy he wants for you.

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You have to understand that Christians and traditional parents are the fortress of evil and most of anti-reason.
I see plenty of irrational belief systems. It's nothing but narrow prejudice to think Christians are the only or greatest example in today's culture.


I dont know why someone like you defends traditional families.

I thought you are into bestiality?
I'm much more into reason and liberty. Liberty says you can't steal money to buy schools which indoctrinate kids against parent's values. Reason says if you try you're going to get guillotined.

I also want the best for people, and the best thing for anyone in general is to find a lifelong partner of the opposite sex (and same species) and have 2-4 kids. That is what makes people happy. I've seen overwhelming evidence of that. Having promiscuous sex may hamper that goal. Having a baby with someone you aren't really compatible with (say because it was an unintended pregnancy in high-school) really hampers this goal.

If people can't have that due to sexual orientation beyond their control, I still want them to have the best life possible; but 'we' should never do anything that would convince an impressionable young mind that they are in this category. If they are, they should come to that conclusion based on the undeniable evidence of their own urges.


Christians cannot be convinced into anything, since the reasoning ability usually dies when person is religious for too long.
...and children can be made to believe anything when they're young enough. But they grow up, and when they do they look back and realize that they would have believed anything they were told. Then they feel resentment for being used.

This has happened to millions of people raised in religions and is the main source of the bitter atheist.

You want to kill an idea long term? Force it on the young. They may not all deconvert but those that do will never relapse. I have no doubt the same is in the process of happening for the LGBT cult and I dearly hope the coming sexual conservatism doesn't harm more innocent people than are already being harmed.
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Liberty says you can't steal money to buy schools which indoctrinate kids against parent's values. 
Your version of liberty, yes.

Reason says if you try you're going to get guillotined.
No, thats what you say.

I also want the best for people, and the best thing for anyone in general is to find a lifelong partner of the opposite sex (and same species) and have 2-4 kids. That is what makes people happy. I've seen overwhelming evidence of that. Having promiscuous sex may hamper that goal. Having a baby with someone you aren't really compatible with (say because it was an unintended pregnancy in high-school) really hampers this goal.
As much as your homophobic assumptions are fun to read, they are also false.

If people can't have that due to sexual orientation beyond their control, I still want them to have the best life possible; but 'we' should never do anything that would convince an impressionable young mind that they are in this category. If they are, they should come to that conclusion based on the undeniable evidence of their own urges.
So you are okay with Christians brainwashing their kids and putting them in categories, but God forbid if someone teaches a child that gay is okay.

...and children can be made to believe anything when they're young enough. But they grow up, and when they do they look back and realize that they would have believed anything they were told. Then they feel resentment for being used.
Well, yes, children do feel used when Christians indoctrinate them into their cult. I dont dispute that.

But for you, its only bad when LGBT does it!

You want to kill an idea long term? Force it on the young. They may not all deconvert but those that do will never relapse. I have no doubt the same is in the process of happening for the LGBT cult and I dearly hope the coming sexual conservatism doesn't harm more innocent people than are already being harmed.
Your "forcing idea" would just result in that you cant teach kids anything, maybe other than scientific facts.

Its a scientific fact that masturbation is healthy, so really, I dont even see why you fight battles which you will obviously lose.
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Liberty says you can't steal money to buy schools which indoctrinate kids against parent's values. 
Your version of liberty, yes.
The version with an objective and sound arguments concluding it.


I also want the best for people, and the best thing for anyone in general is to find a lifelong partner of the opposite sex (and same species) and have 2-4 kids. That is what makes people happy. I've seen overwhelming evidence of that. Having promiscuous sex may hamper that goal. Having a baby with someone you aren't really compatible with (say because it was an unintended pregnancy in high-school) really hampers this goal.
As much as your homophobic assumptions are fun to read, they are also false.
  I doubt it. Interesting that you find the claim that homosexuality isn't the ideal outcome homophobic.


If people can't have that due to sexual orientation beyond their control, I still want them to have the best life possible; but 'we' should never do anything that would convince an impressionable young mind that they are in this category. If they are, they should come to that conclusion based on the undeniable evidence of their own urges.
So you are okay with Christians brainwashing their kids and putting them in categories, but God forbid if someone teaches a child that gay is okay.
I'm not OK with it but I won't use force or deception to prevent it. It's the way our species works. You don't get between a mammal and his/her children. It won't end well.


But for you, its only bad when LGBT does it!
I did not say that. It's bad in either case. However the LGBT cult has infected corporations and schools. If I had bible quizes at my work place you can bet I would be just as pissed. Similarly I wouldn't dream of using force or lies to prevent an LGBT cultist from trying to teach their children (in the rare case they have one) their values.


You want to kill an idea long term? Force it on the young. They may not all deconvert but those that do will never relapse. I have no doubt the same is in the process of happening for the LGBT cult and I dearly hope the coming sexual conservatism doesn't harm more innocent people than are already being harmed.
Your "forcing idea" would just result in that you cant teach kids anything, maybe other than scientific facts.
1.) It's immoral to force kids into your education system
2.) Therefore the only moral way to educate kids is with the full and honestly gained consent of the adult and child
3.) Thus if a parent has an objection to only one subject or claim the choice is between teaching that one claim and teaching nothing
4.) It's better to teach everything else minus that one claim
5.) The only moral way to convince someone is through reason. Teach kids reason and then when they are adults and can evaluate your arguments correctly make the argument. This is the difference between indoctrination and debate.


Its a scientific fact that masturbation is healthy
Perhaps. It's almost certainly more healthy than drinking the syrup they sell as drinks.

That is not the issue I am contending. I am saying that if you've got a kid of a flat earther and the parent forbids teaching round earth it's better to teach the kid logic so he can cure himself of the delusion rather than making an issue of it and having the kid withdrawn from your school entirely.


I dont even see why you fight battles which you will obviously lose.
That is what I'm saying to you.
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The version with an objective and sound arguments concluding it.
More assumptions.

Interesting that you find the claim that homosexuality isn't the ideal outcome homophobic.
If person wants to be homosexual, it is an ideal outcome for him.

And you claiming its better for him to be with a woman is obviously homophobic.

I dont see why you act surprised with the obvious.

I'm not OK with it but I won't use force or deception to prevent it. It's the way our species works. You don't get between a mammal and his/her children. It won't end well.
Ah, so you are just scared that parents will beat you up because you saved their children from being indoctrinated.

However the LGBT cult has infected corporations and schools. If I had bible quizes at my work place you can bet I would be just as pissed.
Christians were infecting schools and corporations for thousands of years, and still infect children today.

But still, what you are saying is an assumption that its somehow wrong for LGBT to infect schools and corporations.

Similarly I wouldn't dream of using force or lies to prevent an LGBT cultist from trying to teach their children (in the rare case they have one) their values.
Ah, I see what you mean.

No, actually, I dont.

Your idea of parents having right to indoctrinate and harm children is wrong, even if you apply it equally to both Christians and LGBT.

But you cant apply it equally because, as previously explained, Christians had their fun for thousands of years and LGBT needs fun too.

1.) It's immoral to force kids into your education system
2.) Therefore the only moral way to educate kids is with the full and honestly gained consent of the adult and child
3.) Thus if a parent has an objection to only one subject or claim the choice is between teaching that one claim and teaching nothing
4.) It's better to teach everything else minus that one claim
5.) The only moral way to convince someone is through reason. Teach kids reason and then when they are adults and can evaluate your arguments correctly make the argument. This is the difference between indoctrination and debate
Bunch of assumptions, plus a false claim that Christians are convincing their children through reason.

Perhaps.
Not perhaps, but masturbation is certainly healthy.

That is not the issue I am contending. I am saying that if you've got a kid of a flat earther and the parent forbids teaching round earth it's better to teach the kid logic so he can cure himself of the delusion rather than making an issue of it and having the kid withdrawn from your school entirely
Thats an assumption. And false.

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Interesting that you find the claim that homosexuality isn't the ideal outcome homophobic.
If person wants to be homosexual, it is an ideal outcome for him.
People often want things they can't have or that are good in the short term but not the long term.


But you cant apply it equally because, as previously explained, Christians had their fun for thousands of years and LGBT needs fun too.
They're owed a thousand years of indoctrination? Good luck justifying that moral theory.


plus a false claim that Christians are convincing their children through reason.
That was not implied.


That is not the issue I am contending. I am saying that if you've got a kid of a flat earther and the parent forbids teaching round earth it's better to teach the kid logic so he can cure himself of the delusion rather than making an issue of it and having the kid withdrawn from your school entirely
Thats an assumption. And false.
It's an assertion supported by the relative value of outcomes. I won't take your word that it is false.
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People only want to be homosexual if they were already homosexual.
Irrelevant assumption.

They're owed a thousand years of indoctrination? Good luck justifying that moral theory.
Well, not exactly thousand. Maybe about two thousand of years.

That was not implied.
Well, my bad.

You said that the only moral way to convince someone is through reason, but at the same time you defend Christian indoctrination of others done through no reason, so one cannot really know what you really think because you contradict yourself so much.

It's an assertion supported by the relative value of outcomes. I won't take your word that it is false.
Thats false too.
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I see that you edited your comment.

A cheap tactic used by Gp as well.

People often want things they can't have or that are good in the short term but not the long term.
Irrelevant, as your assumption that people shouldnt get what they want because they often want things they cant have is false and even goes against the very idea of liberty you claim to support.

Also, you dont decide what is good in long term for others, people decide that for themselves.

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Also, you dont decide what is good in long term for others, people decide that for themselves.
I do get to decide, I just don't get to force.

Nothing else you said warrants a comment.
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I just don't get to force
Exactly, which makes your opinion on what is ideal irrelevant, as anyone can just reject your opinion in favor of people deciding for themselves what is ideal and good for them, a much better system.

But you support Christians forcing their lies on children, so thats another contradiction.

Nothing else you said warrants a comment.
I figured you will run out of unproven claims eventually.
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But you support Christians forcing their lies on children, so thats another contradiction.
I oppose using force or deception to alter the mentoring relationship between parents and children when parents aren't using violence. There is a difference.

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I oppose using force or deception to alter the mentoring relationship between parents and children when parents aren't using violence. There is a difference.
So you assume that Christian parent using deception and force on a child is okay, and you assume that its wrong for LGBT to use deception on a child?

The only difference I see is that its okay when a Christian does it and not okay when LGBT does it.

And also, assumption that Christian parents arent using force against children is false.
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If we listened to parents, most of the children wouldnt even go to school.

In fact, before schools became mandatory, most of the children didnt go to school.
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So you assume that Christian parent using deception and force on a child is okay
Read more carefully.
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Read more carefully.
So you assume that I didnt read carefully. Thats false.

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  • I've been merely exposed to straight people my entire life without any apparent effect.
effect of what? Please be less vague.

  • Insisting that there will soon be a massive conspiracy to make America gay is classic, kooky, conspiracy theory bullshit.  
I never said or implied there was a conspiracy to make America gay. That is a gross misinterpretation of what was put furth in the OP. A point of fact you still are not grasping. The documentary PROVES through psychological manipulation what the left is doing and clearly achieving. 

    • I strongly recommend you make yourself a tin-foil hat- you're going to be wanting one soon
Projecting much!

    • Calling LGBTQ people 'evil' "weak" 'intolerant" "violent" "unnatural" and "illegal" in two sentences without assembling any argument is merely hate speech.
Truth =/= hate speech. 

      • And a desperate ploy by the immoral to convince the stupid to vote for the party of racists, rapists, and Russians.  
Ignoratio elenchi retort. 

  • Fear makes bad public policy.
And yet that's exactly what the left does 24/7/365
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This world isn't turning to ....it's already turned.

Consider history. Nothing new under the sun.
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II don't want to be disrespectful but I stopped reading here because I provided an example and you just said "outlier" I could provide 10 more and you would say the same thing
It's a country of over 300 million people. With today's social media, I could find you 10 examples of anything. That's generally why we rely on data.

Still, if you had bothered to keep reading I explained further what I would need, specifically the example combined with the backlash so we can see what the opposition actually has to say about it and assess it's legitimacy from there.

I find it hard that this thing that has been all over the media you haven't seen because right-wing sites will actually show pictures from the books. All I can think of is that you are a partisan hack that only follows left wing sources. 
Or perhaps I'm just not inundating myself with every anecdotal example the internet has to offer. If my child's school is showing inappropriate things to my child I will be having a conversation with her teachers or the schoolboard. Other than that I'm really not interested in this and am scratching me head as to why the political right has made this a front and center issue in our politics.

I think you re aware of he indoctrination taking place and being disingenuous when you claim to not notice that California is passing laws that allow teachers to socially transition children or noticed that youtube is getting millions of views from a song about how "Yes we are coming for your kids". https://youtu.be/ArOQF4kadHA?si=FwcFYnbNJfOG3Zwt
This is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. I've seen this video, I find it hilarious. The message here is that they're coming for your children... To turn them into empathetic human beings. Yet you saw this video and saw what exactly?

If a video talking about teaching your children to be accepting of others has you so triggered that you would post it here as support for what you are against, then why on earth would I take your word for it when you tell me about the evils you're fighting against?

I am sure you have seen children shows that are now shifting to promote trans ideology. 
You mean teaching children that it's ok to be who you are? Yes, I've seen one or two.

Different people have different values. You don't want your kid hearing that Jesus died on the cross for his sins in school and I don't want mine picking up a book in the school library where I have to explain an image he is swwing of 2 guys sucking each others cocks, or even descriptions of that. 
I would have a problem if my child's class taught them about Jesus because that is a violation of the separation of church and state. I couldn't care less if my child comes home asking me about Jesus and telling me that's what others told them because I'm not the least but afraid of my child being exposed to the world. If my child is learning ideas that I consider harmful... I will do what parent is supposed to do and talk to them about it.

When my child is old enough I plan to teach her how to think, not what to think. I want my child to grow up feeling empowered to decipher between right and wrong, between reality and bullshit. You can't indoctrinate a child who knows better. When I see cries of "indoctrination" all I see is fear and insecurity.

It doesn't matter if it is technically porn.
If your argument is that it is porn, then yes it does.

What matters is having some level of respect for other members of the community.
That's literally what the left is fighting against you to ensure your kids understand.

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If a video talking about teaching your children to be accepting of others has you so triggered that you would post it here as support for what you are against, then why on earth would I take your word for it when you tell me about the evils you're fighting against?
7 of those people have been found to be on sex offender registries after this gained popularity attention.  Why do you want children Tobe accepting of pedophiles?
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Wow, and here I was thinking you were trying to have a serious conversation.