The War On Children - 2hr documentary is AMAZINGLY produced/executed

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This documentary video, done by a producer who has worked with some pretty famous people, has shown how and why this world is turning to shit.



It is the only place I could find to the full video, and yes, it is on X, but that makes no difference.

The documentary is professionally researched and put together. 

Through psychological warfare, or as they call it, the mere-exposure effect western civilization is being destroyed from within. 

There is a war on Western Civilization, and so far the enemy is winning. America has never been so divided across so many lines. 
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Social evolution is material evolution is intellectual evolution is data evolution is universal progress at Planet Earth level.

I cannot see any way back, because the past was.

Some might say that we are addicted to data technology.

And some might suggest an evolved symbiosis.


I have fond memories of the 1960's.

And then stuff happened.

And now I consider my mortality.

See what I mean Amber?


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how and why this world is turning to shit
Actually, the world was shit for thousands of years and is now becoming better.

I dont know whats up with people insisting that world is becoming worse.

Worse than what?
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Worse if you are a Christian, because you have to live around gays and tolerate their existence.
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Even Christians live better than they did before.

Greatest powers in the world are mostly Christian, and anyone who wants to be a Christian in USA can be a Christian.
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See what I mean Amber?
Yes, you didn't watch the documentary.

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Wylted

I saw this: You are probably not LGQBTP+ (debateart.com) just now. You posted it 3 days ago? 

Having read it, I thought you would be interested in the documentary because it speaks to what you wrote about, starting with children and young adults.

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The thing is I think a lot of these right-wing peddlers don't get something:

1) All teenagers think about and get into sex, whether you suppress them knowing about porn-level stuff or not, the urges naturally evolve except for the 0.2% asexual no-libido types or whatever.

2) During this phase, if you have taught them nothing they resort to act on the urges to explore as they don't have masturbation as a healthy alternative especially as they've been taught it's evil to release the seed or whatever females are taught instead (that it's a 'whore' act to masturbate).

3) If you analyse the rate of unwanted pregnancies, child marriages and all sorts of unwanted things like rape etc in more conservative nations, these generally are worse but because it's done in ways it gets buried, it's not released, the proper data. In Islamic nations, the most conservative of them all, they will honor kill you for consensual sex outside of marriage but celebrate underage or barely-18 marriage with marital rape occuring.

There is no society or culture any of these right-wing peddlers can name they want to actually live in that has the backwards idiotic approach of totally cotton-wooling the eyes of youth to the realities of sexual intimacy, since they're all shit societies to live in. This is one of the few times when the 'racism' card can be played more on the left than the right but genuinely tell me, who would rather live in any sex-phobic conservative nation than a Western progressive one? Take that person, put them there, offer to move their immediate family with them if they share that view and tell them 'problem solved'.

I have a feeling they'll suddenly miss the West but genuinely if they don't, all the best to them. I do not say this with 0 exposure, I can promise you that. I have a lot of insight to both sides and the conservative world is not the place I ever want to live in, it's not all it's made out to be.
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RM,

Telling people to not groom children is not the same as saying thy shouldn't be educated about sex. You don't need teachers telling 7 year olds what type of sex they like having to ensure teens act responsibly about sex. 

Why do leftists think that you need to sexualize children and teach them about butt sex to keep them from premarital sex and teen pregnancy and disease. In fact show me the data that supports your premise that grooming children somehow prevents them from being sexual degenerates. 
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Less rape, sexual violence and healthier relationships amongst teens and preteens that learned sex ed Vs control groups studies. More likelihood tor report domestic molestation before it escalated to severe rape and trauma too (but also report severe cases if it's already too late).



There isn't proof the opposite leads to the opposite because they never allow such studies in those places.
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Conservatives want to protect children from truth.

Its the old type of family values in which all sensitive topics are avoided.

But person learns sooner or later.

Conservatives think its better to learn later.

Unless its about their imaginary God.

In that case, its better to learn as early as possible to ensure proper indoctrination.

"Teaching children about safe sex is bad, teaching them about logic is also avoided, but nothing wrong with telling them there is a psychopathic God who burns people alive if they are gay or atheist." - This is how Christian and conservative families work.
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I am not going to thumbs up  your post because I am rather radical on this.

I am against most Western approaches, they demonise porn and wanking/fingering and glorify safe sex. I support celibacy and masturbation to pornography or erotica as a healthy way to handle the urges as a teenager but if I say further it is illegal as I am encouraging something for underage people.

Worked for me. All else aside in my teenage years if I didn't have that way to release, I'd have never been able to focus at school considering I had a couple of mental disorders and I also had other issues like being underweight due to a lot of issues coping with both the disorders and food intolerances I didn't realise yet.

Others struggle too, I'm not making it about me. If I had not been able to 'release' that urge (and fuck me is it strong at the teenage years, you can go on forever some days) I would be stuck with a hardon wanting to imagine doing severe sexual things to those around me or if surrounded by ugly and/or not-my-type people, I'd just be constantly imagining things unable to focus.

Do you know what that's like? It's actual hell that people you vent to laugh at you about if you seek help. I began to masturbate regularly to porn earlier than I ever should have (according to an extremely arbitrary law that things a birthday suddenly grants you 0-100 consent and maturity) and suddenly was at the very least able to focus better at school than ever before. Instantly.

So you tell me if that's corrupted or bad, I really don't give a shit and neither should others it works for.

I know what the law says, I know it's illegal to advocate for, but I know the only alternative is encouraging underage safe sex (where both are underage) so... okay do that (not sure why that's more legal to advocate for than a healthy outlet that has 100% no STI and no emotional baggage guarantee)

In many progressive nations you can only legally watch porn and/or engage with sex toys 1-3 years after you can legally have sex. They think that's healthier and fairer. I just lol at the whole thing. Someone is much safer exploring their fantasies in their own brains and private surfing, being educated at school what's way too far and not okay to entertain, than they are acting it out way too young with other peers that are just as shit at it but you do you, I'll do me.
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they demonise porn and wanking/fingering and glorify safe sex
I dont consider porn as something bad.

I started watching porn very early. 

It didnt do any particular damage to me.

I am way smarter than an average person, and also much more peaceful and much less greedy.

Of course, same could have been true even if I never watched porn, but studies do say that people who masturbate a lot live longer, are happier and smarter, so I think I made a good decision.
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I sure wish people would show genuine interest in the OP and watch the documentary before commenting. Otherwise, it is just mindless subjective banter that I am just not interested in.


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I sure wish people would show genuine interest in the OP and watch the documentary before commenting
Well, there are millions of documentaries out there, and person can in a lifetime at best watch only few thousands out of those millions.

So person has to skip most of them.

Plus, you kinda made it easier by not even saying what the documentary is about.

In fact, you should present an argument and study.

Documentaries and "only links" I just ignore, since they arent arguments.

I dont debate against links.

There were times when you could have trolled people by posting links and making them argue against links while you sit back and do nothing.

But those times no longer apply.
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If you are NOT interested in the discussion and the core substance of it provided within the documentary, then just don't comment. 
You disrespect me, as the OP, and anyone else who does watch it and are genuinely interested in the discussion at hand.
Stop wasting my time, and everyone else' time with your banter (spamming).
Thank you,
Amber 
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Dear Amber,

You do not get to tell people what to do.

Thank you,

Best.Korea
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I mean we are discussing the broader topic, not wasting our time watching a far right nutjob documentary.

Even if it's valid, I'd support removing a couple library books with too much smut okay but what else?
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Tell us what you want children taught instead, to understand social equality of races and LGBTQ, how would you handle teaching them that in a better way?
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I am with you 100% on loathing the trans agenda on children's and teens.

Fucking vile to encourage them to stop puberty and consent to permanent mutilation of their genitalia.
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There isn't proof the opposite leads to the opposite because they never allow such studies in those places.
We don't oppose sex Ed. I speak for all of us. We oppose grooming. There is nothing wrong with sex Ed classes.
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Rm, just so you know conservatives are not against sex education here is a principal saying it is fine to show 8 year olds porn. https://youtube.com/shorts/x29ZLCbX3Qc?si=0etrIqtBBI-g8qRo

The fact you are trying to twist people opposed to kids seeing men throat fucking other men as conservatives opposing teaching kids how to put on condoms, is sick. If you don't know about it fine. But if this is your first time finding out and you still support watching porn with children than please find Jesus.
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Not very good at grammar, are you?
I did not tell you what to do. 
It was an indirect suggestion.
You need to learn to read better. 
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Not very good at grammar, are you?
Nope

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 time watching a far right nutjob documentary.
You're going to have to substantiate that if you want anyone to take you seriously.
Otherwise, all this amounts to is "I know you are, but what am I" tactics. Or more aptly, "I am right, you are wrong. Deal with it."
That is not how you conduct a proper learning moment via debate/discussion where cited evidence is given.  Failure to look at it, for any reason, making faux claims like you just did, is the tell-tale sign of ignorance on laziness steroids. 

Tell us what you want children taught instead,
The same proven classic liberal arts (math, science, English linguistics, etc.) taught for hundreds of years that has proven 100% effective in fostering furthered education at higher institutions of learning. 

to understand social equality of races and LGBTQ, how would you handle teaching them that in a better way?
No. Those topics should be strictly optional electives in college, not required. People will eventually learn about those things one way or the other once they get into the real world. 

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I am with you 100% on loathing the trans agenda on children's and teens.

Fucking vile to encourage them to stop puberty and consent to permanent mutilation of their genitalia.
Well, at least we can mutually agree on that reality. 
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 time watching a far right nutjob documentary.
I don't understand this attitude he has. I am willing to watch far left documentaries.  I do sometimes have a hard time stomaching stuff moderates put out but I still try to get exposed to new information. 

I have several hours a day at work and if I listen to 8 hours of conservative stuff at work, I make sure I get atleast 2 hours of breadtube in. It's not perfectly balanced but I am picking a mix of low brow and high brow stuff from the right and trying to stick to only high brow stuff on the left. 
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This documentary video, done by a producer who has worked with some pretty famous people, has shown how and why this world is turning to shit.
  • Strongly disagree.  This video is merely MAGA propoganda for the weak in mind and spirit.  The producer, director, and principle actor is a ex-metalcore videomaker who ran for Congress last year.  Failed politicians, deep in throes of debt and power denied are predicatably unreliable journalists.
It is the only place I could find to the full video, and yes, it is on X, but that makes no difference.
  • Obviously, sources make a difference to serious thinkers and rigourous truth-seekers.  X is a place on the internet remade for the purpose of  evading the fact-checkers and verification.  Cybersecurity experts CHEQ estimated that 75% of all traffic on Superbowl Sunday.  That the owner of a media company that needs to fake 75% of its business endorses propoganda piece says nothing to reliability.
    • Verifying the truth is expensive, while telling lies is cheap.  Which is why Starbuck can afford to propigate without charge.
The documentary is professionally researched and put together. 
  • Starbuck told his subjects he was making a documentary called "It Takes a Village."  More than one subject was smart enough to tape their interviews as proof that Starburck edited their answers to his liking and inserted question he never asked to deliberately misrepresent the truth.  No professional researcher would accept such corrupt methodology.
Through psychological warfare, or as they call it, the mere-exposure effect western civilization is being destroyed from within. There is a war on Western Civilization,
  • That war is in Ukraine and MAGA is now clearly rooting for the fall of Western Civilizatiion.  Trumpublicans can surrender any pretense of siding with Western Civilization any more.  Western Civilization is an inherently liberal institution- the liberal, revolutionary reaction to the statis of medieval autocracies.  Trump's call for a return to autocracy is inherently abusive to the core Western values.  The Republican Party's mindless kowtow to Trump's command is the greatest threat to Western Civ since Munich 1938,
America has never been so divided across so many lines. 
  • Objectively false.  93% of Americans support equal rights for LGBTQ persons.  Rainbow flags are not sexualizing children as Starbuck would have it.  92% support backgrounds checks for gun ownership.  Only 13% of Americans believe that abortion should be illegal and 75% of Americans support the preservation of Ukraine as an European state.  America is far more united that before the Revolujtionary or Civil Wars, more united than before WW2 or the Korean War or the Vietnam War.  MAGA wishes to divide and so upsells division but the facts are that most Americans think most of Republican policy sucks.

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93% of Americans support equal rights for LGBTQ persons.
If that's true, that proves one thing: What they call grooming and what they call equal rights are two different things.

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Why this world is turning to shit.
Is

Mindless subjective banter.

Amber.



Nonetheless, I responded.



Threads unravel,

So,

Try and be,

Less confrontational,

And more,

Conversational.
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We don't oppose sex Ed. I speak for all of us. We oppose grooming.
Everyone opposes grooming children, this is a Boogeyman right wingers made up because they don't have any real issues to run on.

Please provide evidence that this is actually happening in any concerted way that has anything to do with politics.