Many former top aides despise Trump and say he is unfit

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Show us where wiki assumed that Trump cant help undermine a country as president.

Did you know that Putin supports Trump? Do you just assume he supports him for no reason?
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No I agree, wiki assumed something I didn't believe. Good catch BK.
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So you assume Trump can help undermine a country as president?
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Already answered that.
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No, you just assumed it would be unnecessary to have help from Trump as president to undermine a country.
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That's not what you asked.
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So you assume it would be neccessary to bribe just one part of USA to undermine it, and you assume China wouldnt take the extra step of bribing president Trump to make sure.
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Already answered that.
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So you assume that.

You also assume Putin supports Trump for no reason. You assume Trump as president doesnt help Putin.
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No.
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So you assume Trump helps the enemies of democracy?

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read the graph.
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So not only do you assume that bribing Trump is unnecessary and that its enough to just bribe one part of USA, but you also assume that Trump helps Putin achieve his goals.
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read the graph.
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I rest my case.
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My graph rests too :)
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Narcissists have a tendency to only love one thing.
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It's only natural that a peace loving president would be despised by the military. A simple calculus of job security.
A "peace loving president" doesn't lead an attack on the capital building, a "peace loving president" doesn't want to execute his generals. Calling the most divisive, hateful, and violent person to ever hold the office a "peace loving president" is preposterous, agenda based, and dishonest.
Now salute the gun!
Now hug a flag, it makes MAGA morons think you are a patriot.
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So Putin is a "peace loving" leader too...bwahahaha.
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America is like a cheap prostitute.
Your boy Trump only likes expensive prostitutes, cheats on his Slovenian sex worker wife with porn stars, nothing cheap about his prostitutes.  Of course, he's been accused of sexual assault by over 25 women and taped saying he thinks he can just grab women's genitals without asking, and he's been found guilty of rape in a court of law, maybe somebody should tell him all women aren't prostitutes.
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But in the USA if you are rich and stupid you can be PRESIDENT!
MAGA followers only have to be stupid.
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It's time to stop hero worshipping unelected lobbyists and defense contractors.
You are clearly trolling. No one is this stupid.

None of them care about you or me or the country as a whole.
Nor did I assert anything close to that. Learn to read.
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I rest my case.
Don't forget the other tactic, ignore 90% of what the person you are responding to says, focus only on one small part, strawman it,  then respond with a throw away line.

Works everytime.
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focus only on one small part
Sticking to one point and ignoring everything else is a fine strategy for trolling, and a common one here too.
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Nor did I assert anything close to that. Learn to read.

Sure you did. I even reposted it for you. Learn to read your own words I guess? You clearly believed with no hesitation that a list of lobbyists and defense contractors worry about the country over any other factor. What's that word you always use for groups like that??? sounds like fult?
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Narcissists have a tendency to only love one thing.
Bingo. That's the only answer. Everyone else here is trolling and living in an alternate dimension.
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Sure you did. I even reposted it for you. Learn to read your own words I guess? You clearly believed with no hesitation that a list of lobbyists and defense contractors worry about the country over any other factor. What's that word you always use for groups like that??? sounds like fult?
Ok, let me rephrase... Learn what words mean.

I clearly and explicitly made the case that the most reasonable explanation for why all of these former Trump officials would speak out against him is because they believe him to be a danger to the country.

Nothing about this suggests that I believe anything without hesitation. Google Occam's razor and educate yourself.

Nothing about this suggests that I believe these individuals worry more about the country than any other factor. There's no comparison going on within this argument. Again, Google Occam's razor and educate yourself.

The default position when someone tells you what they believe it's to tentatively accept what they say as true until given reason to disbelieve it. What you presented was not a valid reason to disbelieve what they were saying yet you dismiss it anyway. That's blatantly irrational.

Moreover, every criticism these individuals have of Trump fits perfectly with everything we know about him. So before we even assess the individuals motivations we already have reason to accept every word they have said. What would be remarkable is for  any of them to look at him and see anything else.

But what is most ironic about this entire back and forth is that you sit here acting like I trust what these people say out of TDS while also pretending that you feel the same way about Trump as they do. This is why you are so obviously full of shit everytime you pretend to hate Trump. Not only is it your impulse everytime someone attacks him to defend him, but you do it with such blatant absurdities only a MAGA cult follower would think makes sense.
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Nothing about this suggests that I believe anything without hesitation. 
Of course it does. It relies on a ridiculous pre-assertion. One that the last 4 decades have proven laughably false. The entire reason why MAGA evolved.

I don't particularly like MAGA or Trump, but I am not going to make excuses about who is to blame.

During the 80's America lost a significant amount of social capital, and that was allowed to happen, even manufactured by the lobby class in DC. The destruction of the hope of America, the purposeful transfer of power to the elites through DC lobbies, I won't hand wave this so easily. So you post a list of Ultra Lobbyists, and ask me to believe they care about what's a danger to THE COUNTRY? Give me a break. It's increasingly hard to find enclaves in America where neighbors actually care about their local society like they used to, and believed they were also part of a bigger shared society.


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But the MAGA MORONS vote for him any way. Because they’re morons.


General Kelly (Chief of Staff)
General Mattis (Secretary of Defense)
General Miley (Chairman of the Joint Chiefs)
General McMaster (National Security Adviser)
Attorney General Bill Barr
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper
National Security Adviser John Bolton
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Don't forget those who have known him the longest, his sister and his niece both say he is a psychopath.
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So you post a list of Ultra Lobbyists, and ask me to believe they care about what's a danger to THE COUNTRY? Give me a break.
No, I am asking you to stop pretending you're in second grade where the world is made up of good people vs. bad people. The fact that someone is or was a lobbyist has absolutely no bearing on whether their stated opinion on Trump should be accepted as their actual opinion. That requires assessing the individual, and the more people who say the same thing makes it exceedingly harder and harder to deny.

People are always going to look out for their personal best interests first, just as you do. It's basic human nature, there is nothing disqualifying about taking a high paying job in DC. Any of us would under the right circumstances.