Many former top aides despise Trump and say he is unfit

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But the MAGA MORONS vote for him any way. Because they’re morons.


General Kelly (Chief of Staff)
General Mattis (Secretary of Defense)
General Miley (Chairman of the Joint Chiefs)
General McMaster (National Security Adviser)
Attorney General Bill Barr
Secretary of Defense Mark Esper
National Security Adviser John Bolton
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson


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MAGA MORONS are programmed to vote for Trump.

So in fairness, it's not really their fault.


Hopefully the U.S. still has a balanced populous, containing significant quantities of otherwise programmed, including moderators.

Moderates have a tendency to decide free and fair elections.


The electoral circus will be just that.

And the Presidential voting system will be as convoluted as ever.
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It's only natural that a peace loving president would be despised by the military. A simple calculus of job security.

Now salute the gun!
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Trump is a peace loving president?

The dude dropped more bombs than Obama.
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He sold a lot less bombs around the world, leading to world peace.

The Military elites do not want that.

Plus, he wasn't on track to reach the expected 563 drone strikes that Obama launched. He only got to 238.

The Military Machine doesn't like that. As a peace President, Trump was surely incompetent to appoint so many generals into his cabinet.

It's like hiring a bunch of hookers and only watching Netflix....

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Because drone strikes are the only ways to drop a bomb.
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He sold a lot less bombs around the world, leading to world peace.
Hey, look at that, you lied again.


"Arms sales have increased dramatically under Trump's watch, with Saudi Arabia as a top customer. Exports of major arms from the US grew by 23% in comparing the periods 2010–14 and 2015–19."

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Lol, 8 Billion? Those are rookie numbers, lad.

How are you supossed to feed those fat generals on 10% of 8 Billion? No wonder they hated Trump.
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Ah, I see. First you lied that Trump sold less weapons, and now you are just ranting assumptions.
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It's only natural that a peace loving president would be despised by the military. A simple calculus of job security.
None of the individuals named are employed in the armed forces.

And peaceloving? You mean the guy who repeatedly threatened nuclear war over Twitter bragging about the size of his button? The guy who used US airstrikes as an opportunity to stage photo ops showing him "looking strong"? The guy who assassinated Iran's Military commander entirely unprovoked risking all out war with a country we were cooperating with when Trump came into office for absolutely no reason? That guy?

No, he isn't peaceloving. He doesn't give a shit about anything but himself, so if the military has no personal use to him he couldn't care less what they were doing. That's why he wouldn't even read his national security briefs.

What is it about MAGA that just comes up with any excuse to defend Trump no matter how ridiculous? If one single high ranking Biden official came out and declared him unfit he would get booked every single night on Fox News, be used in ad after ad and be received as the superstar key note speaker at the republican conventions. Yet you pretend the list above (which is no where near complete) is insignificant while inventing a fictional character, why?
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Right, because Biden didn't allocate over 100 billion around the world to promote global wars. That's the kind of numbers the Military Elites demand. You ride along with your little 8 billion number assumption though.
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That's the kind of numbers the Military Elites demand.
So your theory is that military elites were less happy with Trump than Obama, despite Trump dropping more bombs and selling more weapons?

You ride along with your little 8 billion number assumption though.
Hey look, you lied again.

"The United States sold $55.6 billion worth of weapons to allies in fiscal 2018, a massive 33 percent increase over 2017 as the Trump administration has given the Pentagon and State Department a green light to sell more, more quickly, overseas."


Any more lies you want to throw around?
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despite Trump dropping more bombs and selling more weapons?
That's your personal feelings? (assumptions)

You can only get those numbers from a source after Trump left office, none which you provided. Until then, everything you said is a big assumption factory.

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Ah, more of your "I dont trust data which doesnt support my world view" nonsense.

Trump dropped more bombs than Biden or Obama. Thats just a fact which you cant swallow, because it doesnt suit your conspiracy theory.
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Prove it. Tell me the total from both presidents. No assumptions allowed.

I told you the total number of recorded drone strikes and you assumed many bombs came from other sources unique to Trump with no data.
That's your intellectual bias showing up in your assumptions.

It's a fact that Military Spending skyrocketed under Biden. He knows how to give his generals 10% for the big guys.

Your conspiracy assumptions don't even pass the smell test.
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As of 10 March 2023 the fiscal year 2024 (FY2024) presidential budget request was $842 billion.[a] In January 2023 Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced the US government would hit its $31.4 trillion debt ceiling on 19 January 2023;[13] the date on which the US government would no longer be able to use extraordinary measures such as issuance of Treasury securities is estimated to be in June 2023.[14] On 3 June 2023, the debt ceiling was suspended until 2025.[15] The $886 billion National Defense Authorization Act is facing reconciliation of the House and Senate bills after passing both houses 27 July 2023; the conferees have to be chosen, next.[16][17][18] As of September 2023, a Continuing resolution is needed to prevent a Government shutdown.[19][20][21] A shutdown was avoided on 30 September for 45 days (until 17 November 2023),[22][23][24][25] with passage of the NDAA on 14 December 2023.[26] The Senate will next undertake negotiations on supplemental spending for 2024.[

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In January 2017, The Intercept reported that Kelly failed to disclose his position as vice-chair on the Spectrum Group, a defense contractor lobbying firm, on his ethics form, while taking a position at the Department of Homeland Security.[61] Kelly's membership on the board of DC Capital Partners and its for-profit detention facilities at the Southern Border and Florida, operated by its subsidiary Caliburn International had called into question his neutrality as they have been described as private for-profit concentration camps.[62] Caliburn CEO James Van Dusen said, "With four decades of military and humanitarian leadership, in-depth understanding of international affairs and knowledge of current economic drivers around the world, General Kelly is a strong strategic addition to our team." Candidates in the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primaries objected, including Cory Booker, who said Kelly's actions in joining the board were "disgusting," and Elizabeth Warren, who called his role, "corruption at its absolute worst."[63] In July 2019, the House Oversight Committee announced it was probing Kelly's conflict of interest in the camps while he was the White House Chief of Staff.[64][65]

Mattis was also employed on the infamous Theranos board that scammed a ton of money.

The list just shows how incompetent Trump was at selecting non-swampers.
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Remember that the USA ranks 29th in IQ and one of Trump's professors said he was the stupidest student he ever had,
But in the USA if you are rich and stupid you can be PRESIDENT !
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Yes, Biden is president.
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You know that Biden has a law degree, don't you?
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Yes, Biden is president.
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Biden's records that he released last week indicated he attended law school on a half-time scholarship based on financial need and that he graduated 76th out of a law school class of 85. His undergraduate academic records show that he graduated from Delaware 506th in a class of 688 with a "C" average and that he got his undergraduate degree with a dual major in history and political science.

But in the USA if you are rich and stupid you can be PRESIDENT!
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Remember that a document discovered in May 2019 reveals that Donald Trump's IQ was measured at 73 during his high school years. 
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Correct. They are both dummies.
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I knew we would agree on something!
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It's only natural that a peace loving president 
A “peace loving President”? This guy asked the Secretary of Defense if we could shoot protesters 

He sold a lot less bombs around the world, leading to world peace.
More bullshit. All his “peace deals” in the Middle East involved selling weapons to the countries that agreed to accept Israel’s existence 

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Like Ashli?
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Hey, look at that, you lied again.
He lies every day. Just like Trump.

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Lol, more low-energy trolling. Enjoy the inevitable.
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Like Ashli?
Mr Glib. Do you have a point? Did Biden tell the police to shoot her? Who was President when she was shot?  Did Trump ask the his cabinet why can’t we shoot protestors or not? 


“We reached that point in the conversation where he looked frankly at [Joint Chiefs of Staff] Gen. [Mark] Milley and said, 'Can't you just shoot them, just shoot them in the legs or something?' ... It was a suggestion and a formal question. And we were just all taken aback at that moment as this issue just hung very heavily in the air."