Instigator / Pro
28
1515
rating
15
debates
86.67%
won
Topic
#5530
Children should be legally required to get vaccines
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 4 votes and with 25 points ahead, the winner is...
itsnotago
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- One day
- Max argument characters
- 3,000
- Voting period
- One month
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Con
3
1500
rating
1
debates
0.0%
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Description
Pro must prove that children should be legally required to get vaccines.
Con must prove that they shouldn't.
Burden of proof is shared
This debate is about making vaccines that protect from smallpox, mumps, rubella, and similar diseases mandatory for children, the only exception is the Covid one and ill explain why
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
I’m not convinced, but the con did forfeit
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
Forfeiture
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
Con forfeited.
Criterion
Pro
Tie
Con
Points
Better arguments
3 point(s)
Better sources
2 point(s)
Better legibility
1 point(s)
Better conduct
1 point(s)
Reason:
Forfeiture
Again, if you want to get opponents that won't just forfeit every round, start making rated debates.
@WyIted
->Trump calls the vaccine his greatest accomplishment
He said that after trashing the COVID vax for months and his base ate it up. He said this when he could call other GOP people cowards for refusing to state whether or not they got the COVID shot.
->kamala harris in the debate with Mike Pence says she will refuse the vaccine because Trump cut red tape so it could help save lives sooner.
Kamala Harris said, "If the doctor says to take it, then I'll take it. If Trump says to take it, then I won't." Kindof like how you would trust a Harvard graduate to help you with your Calculus; but not a 4th grader. A Harvard grad says the derivative of 3x^2 is 6x, you believe him. A 4th grader says the same thing, if you know nothing about Calculus, you don't trust him.
-> I don't think you made it up, only that you don't have a mind of your own, so likely just blindly believed CNN
Times when I disagree with CNN:
1. Abortion
2. Nuclear energy
3. Funding for Ukraine
4. AR 15 legalization and constitutional carry
I'm not a left wing hack.
Trump calls the vaccine his greatest accomplishment
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-renews-praise-covid-vaccines-one-greatest-achievements-mankind-n1286551
kamala harris in the debate with Mike Pence says she will refuse the vaccine because Trump cut red tape so it could help save lives sooner. https://www.yahoo.com/news/kamala-harris-says-she-wont-take-covid-vaccine-just-on-trumps-sayso-020511962.html
So your statement that Trump was anti vaccine is a lie. I don't think you made it up, only that you don't have a mind of your own, so likely just blindly believed CNN
@WyIted
->Being pro vaccine is not a liberal position. We really need to ban people with IQs below 120 . Stop strawmanning literally everyone
Who are you referring too when you say this? Being pro vaccine is more left than right because Trump talked bad about the vaccines and vaccine mandates and the parties went their own routes on the vaccines and the mandates for COVID.
I got 2 COVID boosters, so on a personal level; I'm about as pro vax as it gets. I'm also very anti vax mandate for COVID and the flu.
->it's not a matter of control, it's solely about safety
A common reason why people advocate control is for safety. Why else would people want to control others? You believe the control is justified (as do I for diseases like Mumps and rubella; but not COVID or the flu).
->i heard and experienced myself certain side effects from the vaccine so i might have to modify the description.
Then do it. Otherwise, you would be having to defend COVID vaccine mandates.
Being pro vaccine is not a liberal position. We really need to ban people with IQs below 120 .
Stop strawmanning literally everyone
Ill make sure to modify the description
Yea and also about covid, i heard and experienced myself certain side effects from the vaccine so i might have to modify the description. I don't get a lot into political labels, i just care about people being safe, it's not a matter of control, it's solely about safety
You should specify a bit more. Is it all recommended vaccines, just certain ones, etc.?
If the debate goes anywhere, nitpicking that is bound to be the destination.
I support forcing children to get vaccinated against horrible diseases like smallpox, mumps, rubella, and similar. My two exceptions are the COVID vaccine (and the flu) because way more people are anti COVID vax and COVID is not as deadly or pain producing as smallpox. If I had a kid, then they would be up to date with all vaccinations and I think vaccines should be free because they prevent disease.
Since you are a conservative, I respect you taking this position, but I'm just surprised because being pro vax mandate is a left wing position.
Only if you believe that slavery is okay, which most people believe, sadly.