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@Earth
agent roy petty is gay but a slut?
bobby dean is a strip club owner but not a womanizer per se
frank cosgrove jr is a sleazebag, but, again, not really a womanizer
overall no… anything beyond that and I'm really reaching deep into the bag of minor characters
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neither I, nor anyone, has ever had a random thought
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also just in my head I can say it's male biased cast, but I can think of 1…2…3…4…5…6… prominent female characters, not counting named minor characters, so I don't think it's likely to be obvious
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don't know what popcorn means
oops didn't see we were pressuring ILP
wait are TPs not policy lynched? i genuinely don't know what policy is.
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@whiteflame
@Discipulus_Didicit
fair enough for activity. I intend to be more active.
re gender split, I had the exact same idea. my char is male.
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sup I'm reading now. I know a lot of Ozark and as such can help deduce theme, but to everyone PLEASE do not spoil anything past s3e3 PLEASE, lol
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@Lunatic
I was NOT going to play but Ozark?? one question
will there be spoilers for anything past s3e3
if not, I'm in
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at this point ILP seems scum to me and wylted hasn't stopped seeming town to me.
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@Lunatic
I'm Zero 2, and I also have a version of a protective role. this is why I've said multiple times that the "multiple scum teams" theory is likely accurate.
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@Wylted
@ILikePie5
the first two notes I made from DP1 are that your post #22 was either scummy or foolish, and that #33 wylted's post scumreading you made me townread him
currently mildly tr luna but because there could be scum scumreading other scumteams, the lunatic townread isn't as strong as it would otherwise be pending further reflection and DP1 collation of notes
I think two scum teams is the case, I'm sheeping wylted for the next 24 hours, I don't see a reason to lynch whiteflame yet.
wylted your town confirm ability is 1x, so if multiple people visit you tonight only one should get the confirmation right? and mod says town actions resolve first so I guess it's fine in that you don't have to worry about scum trying to "steal" the confirmation somehow
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DP1
and THERE IS a theme split
what a curious taste, you must not be an ordinary human
You're to late...once I push this button
Who's that?..Oh My..The whole stadium is abuzzWhat is going on?kabo?
A lone timothy sheds a tear in the grave
She'd do anything to keep me from seeing the real world
Don't worry I won't kill youbut I'm going to punish you....
I said it's romantic and pragmatic!pragmatic means practical, just so you are aware!
Do we have enough people for this mission...?"as long as we stick together, we'll be fine"
This place takes me backThis was your first training ground wasn't it?
Why are you doing this?Some times you just have to fight....It's not always easy, but when you are in a corner what choice do you have?Some choices are not simple but necessary
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@Lunatic
there must be two scum teams, by your logic.
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@Wylted
there's nothing relevant I have to contribute wrt your request.
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@Danielle
reshaping my ideas on sex & gender.
I strongly believe that gender is "real" in at least the colloquial sense, and that for males to develop their inherent latent masculinity is a moral good, just as females & their inherent latent femininity (for the moment not touching on nb & trans)
the ideal society is not composed of androgenized humans, but of celebrated difference between men & women… I feel this is true on a pre-verbal level, and am seeking to simultaneously strengthen and challenge that feeling through soliciting additional viewpoints
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okay actually I have a zoom meeting rn but I'll be back after to comment substantively.
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also how does the ability to edit posts work? are we just assuming anyone who edits is scum or wha
this is my first (non-live) game in years, and first game on dart
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what's up everyone I win with town
I am mentally ill and tend to inexplicably make enemies of people so read my posts carefully before scumreading me thanks
watch, someone will scumread me for this very post
hmu on discord if I am not active enough, {hiddenglass#0001}
I am (or "should be") working this weekend, and looking at potential places to move so may not be super free but
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@rbelivb
recommendations on reading to flesh out my understanding of this shift? anything between Descartes' Meditations & Nietzsche's Birth of Tragedy — I'm basically completely unread in the canon
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what's the best argument attacking it that you've seen?
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@3RU7AL
@FLRW
you may want to vote with bold, if I were looking to contest results, I'd appeal to the fact that
• OP uses the word "rules" to refer to
• rule "Please state who you are voting for by bolding who your vote is for, especially[…]"
• you didn't bold
I vote airmax
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googled for some political topic seeking balanced takes from both sides and found DDO's opinions section. ended up joining to respond to what I saw as stupidity at the time =]
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how the fuck do I vote
I've got supadudz in my inbox publishing site notices telling me that voting has started and uhhhhhhhh???????????????????????? how
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why is the first mafia thread I see every time I log in over the last few years always a "let's revive mafia"
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@Athias
source on the theosophic occultism →︎ luciferianism flow? though I'm reading the wikipedia article on luciferianism and wow, what a strange state of things it is.
and yeah, I'm not Stephen (thankfully)
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@Wylted
well the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth isn't really disputed by any relevant scholars, though of course that doesn't mean his divinity isn't disputed.
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@zedvictor4
ngl, I'm disappointed that SAANMONAOTTA isn't a word
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@Wylted
Why would you believe that sort of thing as opposed to the witness testimonies of his death, and resurrection?
because I have no reason to believe that the witness testimonies were real — for all I know they were real. it's immaterial to the worldview that flows from my new anchorpoint, which is a nondual metaphysic
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@RationalMadman
It's probably BS based on what she (profile says female) said later on in the thread and the fact she ignored you and I posting.
ignored… never change, rm
I can help you out, though Idk what exactly you want me to tell you.Also, why are you certain atheism is false? Just curious.
just what it says on the tin… basically wanna know why neoplatonic emanationism fell out of vogue. why did the gnostic view of reality as a corrupted Nous or whatever stop being a serious cosmological / metaphysical position among academic philosophers
and because I Know there's more than just what's right in front of my eyes.
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@zedvictor4
why are you tagging stephen
A well researched name that reminds me of someone.
is it me?
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@Polytheist-Witch
genuine
and: due to the v i b e s
ceteris paribus would you rather be apart of some old white dude's take on eastern religion or eastern religion with its millenias-old pedigree
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@Wylted
essentially I believe that Jesus didn't conceive of himself as the Son of God the way Christians believe, but that he was something like a buddha that so fully lived life as an awake human and was so in-touch with the unconscious that people could tell and remember him thusly for thousands of years…
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tbh I don't see how to technically vote yet lol is it a thread or…
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@Wylted
potentially yeah; I've been kinda specifically wanting a place to exercise my brain outside of personality typology recently.
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actually I just realized my answer with next-to-no-thought lmao.
P1 & P3 are equally guilty of murder.
P1 should be sentenced to the punishment for murder, augmented in light of the malice aforethought involved in hiring an assassin.
P3 should be sentenced to the punishment for murder, augmented in light of the greedy disregard for life.
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reasoning
reasoning
in my view, intentionally bringing about the death of another via violation of their innate right to not-be-killed (a definition which, intentionally, excludes actions like self-defense) defines a subset of the actions I'd call "murder". (it's a fuzzy definition that I could hone to higher definition but I feel no need here and I'm lazy)
murder is immoral and should be [remain] criminalized (within the bounds of applicable epistemic standards — one may be guilty of murder without having met any reasonable or coherent hypothetical legal standard for such). in this example, Person 1 ("P1") murders P2 by hiring P3 to execute the execution.
we can see that they are equally guilty of the act of murder through comparison to parallels.
murder is immoral and should be [remain] criminalized (within the bounds of applicable epistemic standards — one may be guilty of murder without having met any reasonable or coherent hypothetical legal standard for such). in this example, Person 1 ("P1") murders P2 by hiring P3 to execute the execution.
we can see that they are equally guilty of the act of murder through comparison to parallels.
- if PX intentionally, repeatedly, inserts & extracts of a portion of steel into PY's chest, perforating PY's heart such that it stops beating, PX is guilty of murder. that PX used an implement to effect the murder is immaterial.
- if PX intentionally bails out of a car that is left heading, driverless, on a course where it will run over PY, then PX is guilty of murder. that PX used an implement that didn't require his continuous, active intent to effect the murder is immaterial. if, after bailing out, PX immediately realizes his error and begins running after the car, making all possible effort to avoid the murder he'd set in motion, but fails, PX is still guilty.
- if PX works in a dangerous industrial environment, and removes a safety lock-out for a machine in which PY is working, such that PZ comes and turns on the machine, killing PY, PX is guilty of murder. that the final impulse of human will effecting the death of PY belonged to PZ instead of PX is immaterial
notable aside:if PX works in a dangerous industrial environment, and, instead of manually removing a safety lock-out, by complete chance notices that PY failed to properly lock-out their own work environment such that, when PZ comes to turn on the machine, PY will die, PX will be guilty of murder. that PX took no positive action to bring about what was PY's impending death is immaterial.however, this can only be morally condemned, and cannot be legally condemned. so-called Good Samaritan laws are virtually always wrong-headed as far as I can tell.aside to the aside—this does not morally preclude justice being enacted as if in a tribal village, where the nuances of individual cases are given more careful consideration and thus can afford the case-by-case evaluation that must occur to allow for, shall we say, a guilty verdict
- if PX works in a dangerous industrial environment, and , and then, with personal assurances, beckons PZ come remove the safety lock-out for a machine in which PY is working and turn on the machine when no one would otherwise have done so, killing PY, PX is guilty of murder. that the final impulse of human will effecting the death of PY belonged to PZ instead of PX is immaterial.
- and finally, if PX beckons PZ to come and murder PY, and PZ does so when they would demonstrably not otherwise have, then both PX & PZ have committed murder. that the final impulse of human will effecting the death of PY belonged to PZ instead of PX is immaterial.
while you can build the rest of the argument for yourself — I just encountered a problem while writing the last one…
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I REALLY need to go to work so I can't build this out so I'll let y'all take it and run with it for the time being, but: how tenuous can the causality be before it ceases to be strong enough to support culpability?
- am I, in the crowd of a street brawl screaming "kill him", guilty of murder? what if the actual murderous brawler wouldn't have hit quite as hard or as many times without the jeers?
- am I guilty of murder if I know that the meter man comes to check the meter at a random time once a decade when I throw a bucket of knives out the window that's a story above the meter and it JUST HAPPENS to be the day he's there, at the exact time? what if he comes once every year instead of every decade? month? day? once every minute?
- am I guilty of murder if I give birth to someone who grows up to murder of someone?
I have ideas to answer all of the above, but like I said, gotta go
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@Buddamoose
surprisingly, an excellent question… I'll have to think about that. (upon noticing who wrote the post — less surprising)
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@Wylted
yes, I now, apparently, stand next to C.S. Lewis — I believe Christianity is a "true myth"
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sup, strangers. some of you may know me but most won't.
due to a series of unusual events in my life, I now feel convinced of a worldview incompatible with christianity. where exactly I'll land in terms of labels I do not yet know, but it won't be miles away from neo-advaita, a strain of buddhism as I understand.
if y'all who are so educated in the western philosophical canon might help me understand why it is neo-platonism fell out of favor (essentially explaining the rise of modernity as a whole kthxbai) I'd love to hear it. I'm researching the dharmic traditions, and interested in perennialism, non-dualism, & I'm worried I'll become a kooky theosophic occultist lol so feel free to save me from whatever you see as the dark path.
physicalist nihilists don't @ me
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oh I skipped the question about significant others because it's sexist against virgins
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I'm back here to vote for him so I'm at least one data point
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why bother to make such an observation, when your claim requires such qualification lol
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