In my perspective, I think that it's untrue as it has been debunked many times and it's just a theory. It doesn't disprove that God exists but only makes claims about the universe which are simply not true in my opinion
Is it possible to go over the character limit? I think I did it in one of my other debates and it was fine but I do not know if that is a glitch or not
I have no interest in debating on Dms because what fun would that be? No one to see our points, our rebuttals and most importantly our failure. I would like to debate publicly and as you said you are not interested, so just stop diminishing Islam when you clearly have been watching to much David Wood and others to make this quote that you gave fit your narrative. All I am going to say regarding this quote, Muslims are not allowed to leave a mark, not allowed to hit the face and not allowed to cause pain to their wives, so how could men strike their wives with an intent to hurt them when they are not allowed. Men should only tap a woman, not hit them until blood flows. Misconceptions galore.
Again, you need to understand what a debate is. I would happily answer these for you but please make a debate if you want me to answer them, preferably 2 days writing time because I have Eid tomorrow. Also if you want to play at that game, women have to be quiet in churches, Jesus called a woman a dog. This is just me showing you double standards.
Lets debate. You make it, you be pro, call it Islam supports oppression against women or something like that, and I will join it. And then we can debate in a proper environment, this comment section is not a debate platform
These are both misconceptions on your behalf, if you want to debate about Islam oppressing/hating/being unfair to women then be my guest and start a debate and let me know. If you do not want to, please do not speak ill about my religion
I appreciate your concerns, however Islam is the most beautiful religion out there. It is not a pacifist religion, you have to consider that. Yes there are some parts of violence there, but all this is justified. I say time and time again, I will not leave the religion of Islam. No one pressured me, I was born in a Muslim household. I love the religion of Islam and in no way shape or form will I leave. I know every single quote that non-Muslims use against us, I can rebuke these, just as long as they are willing to listen. Islam is not a misogynistic faith because it respects women, all to the point where non-married Muslim men cannot even touch a women's hand, out of respect. I have definitely made up my own mind, and if someone can prove that Islam is a wrong faith, be my guest. I can use these arguments and crush them. I will have 12000 words left. I don't have much space, but I will try my best.
My faith also has nothing to do with starting wars nor oppressing innocents nor forcing non Muslims to be Muslim. Not even homophobia as if you wanna be gay then be it however do not be Muslim and vice versa.
I know there are people in countries such as Iran and Iraq etc that oppress people and I know that you think it is to do with Islam. However, don't you just think these people that are doing these things, are using their free will? Because it is blatantly obvious. I will be responding to every single one of your quotes and clearing up every single misconception, all in the space of 12000 words. Whatever happens after is the voters choices.
I do not wish to attack Christianity. The reason being, I respect all religions. My religion, Islam, teaches to respect all faiths. 'Surah Al-Ankabut verse 46 states: And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
I know that you don't hate Muslims, however you hate the faith. And to this, I say that is your opinion. However calling Islam a barbaric faith when it teaches to be peaceful until the last resort is ironic because I assume that you are Christian. This is not me attacking Christianity, but just calling the double standards. I believe Christianity teaches peace but if you want to call my religion barbaric then why does Jesus call a woman a dog? Why should all babies be killed and women taken as slaves? I know Christianity does not promote these things, but it is in your scripture. So this is just me calling out the double standards. Please do not answer these questions as I know what you will say, just me calling it out. Rhetorical, if you may.
I have already answered this in round 2. It is not the word of God. God is not a deceiver. They think that the word 'maakir' and the root word 'mkr' have the same meaning. They are decepted by this view. The root word does not always mean the actual word. For example, the root word for 'vowel' is 'vocalis' and this means 'relating to the voice'. By this logic, the word 'vowel' means 'relating to the voice'. Where is the sense in that? There is nowhere in the Quran that says spread Islam by the sword either. I know exactly what you think of Islam and the verses you give me, I know trust me' are going to be cherry picked and I will be explaining all of them. However, as you are the master of deception, I will not have anymore arguments left, so your last round will probably decide that you will win. But we will see. Please continue to explore the angle of your view of Islam fully.
Of course you quote an article from wikiislam known for its islamophobia. There is a donate button top left of the page, and it redirects you to donate to ex Muslims. I am not amused.
The dilemma you gave me is now I cannot explain all the points properly as I only have 1 left. Master of deception you are, voters only see 1 side to the story
The test is to follow the religion of Islam. There are things you have to give up, alcohol, sex before marriage, smoking etc and this is not only good for you, but part of the test. People get tested in different ways. The Quran is the book of guidance as well as the Hadith being the supported. Look into the Quran and the Hadith and let me know what you do not get, is incorrect and unlawful. I will answer it
No scientist can say how the universe was created. Because it just keeps on going back and back. Big bang theory, still doesn't answer it. Because where did the matter come from. no such thing as nothing, so there always has to be something. cannot be created by another universe as the universe is dependant on time and space. you can name nothing that is independent of everything except God. This is why only God can create the universe. and all non believers go to hell eternally. Why should it concern you if you don't believe in the Islamic version of hell? you can disregard it if you don't believe and we will see what happens
The static universe theory still doesn't even make sense. This isn't me trying to get you to vote me, just want to use common sense. The universe is expanding, not static
That's just your opinion. He has great intellect, not a deceiver. Whatever he says about Islam js true bur just has a different speech to him. Very good speaker, bullied David Wood in all his debates
Yes he may have a surprise for me, however talking about individuals does not represent the entire religion. Hitler was a Christian etc. Doesn't make sense. Needs to be the teachings of said religion
There is no such thing as nothing. Also for the universe needs to exist, it needs to be made by something which is independent. Otherwise we would not be here. You can give all the theories in the world, this point cannot be refuted
The Jesus argument, I set a 12 hour timer by mistake so I could not submit it in time, so I did a full forfeit. As for the other one, voting has not even started yet
That is the literal meaning yes. But the meaning of Muslim is to submit. Islam is not taken by its literal meaning in my original debate topic, it means a religion
Muslim means submission to Allah. Islam is a religion which yes you submit to the one who created you, but it is a religion like Christianity and Judaism. Why when you say 'Christianity does not promote terrorism', no one will question that, but only when it is Islam, the literal meaning gets questions. Islam is a religion, based on faith, books etc. That is the meaning of Islam, a religion. Take that of what you will, and if 'I will lose' then debate. But if you don't want to, then don't try to overcomplicate it. Just leave it if you don't want to
Yes it is a fun topic because it is really exciting to know more things about it. I will be interested to debate though, you can be pro and I will be con. make the debate and respond to this comment when you ready
A word doesn't have to mean its roots. The word vowel's roots is 'vocalis' and this means 'to sound' or 'voice
https://www.dictionary.com/e/vowels/
Does this mean the word vowel means 'to sound'? Of course not
The wrestle bit and saari bit has no correlation because its a synonym. Doesn't actively mean that word.
I feel like I did refute it. I proved that every single quote that 'supports' terrorism doesn't actually and is all out of context and not understood.
Could someone please vote on this
In my perspective, I think that it's untrue as it has been debunked many times and it's just a theory. It doesn't disprove that God exists but only makes claims about the universe which are simply not true in my opinion
May the best debater win. My points have been finished. Your move, Pro
Is it possible to go over the character limit? I think I did it in one of my other debates and it was fine but I do not know if that is a glitch or not
I haven't even seen that part yet, but with the cherry picked quotes, good job.
I knew you were going to do this, lets see what happens
I have no interest in debating on Dms because what fun would that be? No one to see our points, our rebuttals and most importantly our failure. I would like to debate publicly and as you said you are not interested, so just stop diminishing Islam when you clearly have been watching to much David Wood and others to make this quote that you gave fit your narrative. All I am going to say regarding this quote, Muslims are not allowed to leave a mark, not allowed to hit the face and not allowed to cause pain to their wives, so how could men strike their wives with an intent to hurt them when they are not allowed. Men should only tap a woman, not hit them until blood flows. Misconceptions galore.
Again, you need to understand what a debate is. I would happily answer these for you but please make a debate if you want me to answer them, preferably 2 days writing time because I have Eid tomorrow. Also if you want to play at that game, women have to be quiet in churches, Jesus called a woman a dog. This is just me showing you double standards.
Lets debate. You make it, you be pro, call it Islam supports oppression against women or something like that, and I will join it. And then we can debate in a proper environment, this comment section is not a debate platform
These are both misconceptions on your behalf, if you want to debate about Islam oppressing/hating/being unfair to women then be my guest and start a debate and let me know. If you do not want to, please do not speak ill about my religion
I appreciate your concerns, however Islam is the most beautiful religion out there. It is not a pacifist religion, you have to consider that. Yes there are some parts of violence there, but all this is justified. I say time and time again, I will not leave the religion of Islam. No one pressured me, I was born in a Muslim household. I love the religion of Islam and in no way shape or form will I leave. I know every single quote that non-Muslims use against us, I can rebuke these, just as long as they are willing to listen. Islam is not a misogynistic faith because it respects women, all to the point where non-married Muslim men cannot even touch a women's hand, out of respect. I have definitely made up my own mind, and if someone can prove that Islam is a wrong faith, be my guest. I can use these arguments and crush them. I will have 12000 words left. I don't have much space, but I will try my best.
My faith also has nothing to do with starting wars nor oppressing innocents nor forcing non Muslims to be Muslim. Not even homophobia as if you wanna be gay then be it however do not be Muslim and vice versa.
I know there are people in countries such as Iran and Iraq etc that oppress people and I know that you think it is to do with Islam. However, don't you just think these people that are doing these things, are using their free will? Because it is blatantly obvious. I will be responding to every single one of your quotes and clearing up every single misconception, all in the space of 12000 words. Whatever happens after is the voters choices.
I do not wish to attack Christianity. The reason being, I respect all religions. My religion, Islam, teaches to respect all faiths. 'Surah Al-Ankabut verse 46 states: And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
I know that you don't hate Muslims, however you hate the faith. And to this, I say that is your opinion. However calling Islam a barbaric faith when it teaches to be peaceful until the last resort is ironic because I assume that you are Christian. This is not me attacking Christianity, but just calling the double standards. I believe Christianity teaches peace but if you want to call my religion barbaric then why does Jesus call a woman a dog? Why should all babies be killed and women taken as slaves? I know Christianity does not promote these things, but it is in your scripture. So this is just me calling out the double standards. Please do not answer these questions as I know what you will say, just me calling it out. Rhetorical, if you may.
I have already answered this in round 2. It is not the word of God. God is not a deceiver. They think that the word 'maakir' and the root word 'mkr' have the same meaning. They are decepted by this view. The root word does not always mean the actual word. For example, the root word for 'vowel' is 'vocalis' and this means 'relating to the voice'. By this logic, the word 'vowel' means 'relating to the voice'. Where is the sense in that? There is nowhere in the Quran that says spread Islam by the sword either. I know exactly what you think of Islam and the verses you give me, I know trust me' are going to be cherry picked and I will be explaining all of them. However, as you are the master of deception, I will not have anymore arguments left, so your last round will probably decide that you will win. But we will see. Please continue to explore the angle of your view of Islam fully.
Of course you quote an article from wikiislam known for its islamophobia. There is a donate button top left of the page, and it redirects you to donate to ex Muslims. I am not amused.
The dilemma you gave me is now I cannot explain all the points properly as I only have 1 left. Master of deception you are, voters only see 1 side to the story
The test is to follow the religion of Islam. There are things you have to give up, alcohol, sex before marriage, smoking etc and this is not only good for you, but part of the test. People get tested in different ways. The Quran is the book of guidance as well as the Hadith being the supported. Look into the Quran and the Hadith and let me know what you do not get, is incorrect and unlawful. I will answer it
No scientist can say how the universe was created. Because it just keeps on going back and back. Big bang theory, still doesn't answer it. Because where did the matter come from. no such thing as nothing, so there always has to be something. cannot be created by another universe as the universe is dependant on time and space. you can name nothing that is independent of everything except God. This is why only God can create the universe. and all non believers go to hell eternally. Why should it concern you if you don't believe in the Islamic version of hell? you can disregard it if you don't believe and we will see what happens
Lol, untrue. Maybe you are the sceptic
The static universe theory still doesn't even make sense. This isn't me trying to get you to vote me, just want to use common sense. The universe is expanding, not static
That's just your opinion. He has great intellect, not a deceiver. Whatever he says about Islam js true bur just has a different speech to him. Very good speaker, bullied David Wood in all his debates
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I am Muslim
Yes he may have a surprise for me, however talking about individuals does not represent the entire religion. Hitler was a Christian etc. Doesn't make sense. Needs to be the teachings of said religion
Islam and its teachings do not support terrorism, yes some individuals do but not the religion
There is no such thing as nothing. Also for the universe needs to exist, it needs to be made by something which is independent. Otherwise we would not be here. You can give all the theories in the world, this point cannot be refuted
Lol, good debate, could go either way. forgot to cite my texts but I feel like we both made good points. what happens if no one votes?
Obviously the person is not Muslim, he is saying that Islam promotes terrorism
But you are biased. I have the same debate with me being pro but the opposite topic.
Best of luck too, don't go too hard on me, I am a beginner
The Jesus argument, I set a 12 hour timer by mistake so I could not submit it in time, so I did a full forfeit. As for the other one, voting has not even started yet
That is the literal meaning yes. But the meaning of Muslim is to submit. Islam is not taken by its literal meaning in my original debate topic, it means a religion
Muslim means submission to Allah. Islam is a religion which yes you submit to the one who created you, but it is a religion like Christianity and Judaism. Why when you say 'Christianity does not promote terrorism', no one will question that, but only when it is Islam, the literal meaning gets questions. Islam is a religion, based on faith, books etc. That is the meaning of Islam, a religion. Take that of what you will, and if 'I will lose' then debate. But if you don't want to, then don't try to overcomplicate it. Just leave it if you don't want to
It is Islam, the religion. The religion as a whole
If you say it is a fact, then debate me. If you don't want to debate, then I suggest you keep your opinions to yourself
That is your opinion, but it isn't the truth unless you prove it
My bad for making it quite short, I was impatient because I wanted to get it over and done with quickly
Yes it is a fun topic because it is really exciting to know more things about it. I will be interested to debate though, you can be pro and I will be con. make the debate and respond to this comment when you ready