People matching red cups to red plates is a subjective style choice
If i have a red microwave and i get a red fridge. IT Would look nicer because they match.It would make more sense then a red microwave and a blue fridge would it not.
God created animals white to go with the white snow.It look nicer because the match white rabbit with white snow they both match. It makes much more sense then blue rabbit and white snow it would not be smart if he did that
Since a red rabbit and or blue rabbit do not go well with white snow
God was intelligent when he created the rabbit white so it would go with the snow
The “intelligence” you are arguing in the process comes solely from you using human words that imply design. Unfortunately, the words you use to describe something cant change what that something is.
No matter how much you refer to a cell as a production line, no matter how often you use loaded words that imply intent like “made” and “create”, the nature of what a cell is won’t change; it is now and will remain a set of sequential chemical reactions unique only due to the size of the chemicals involved and the result they produce.
dammit this does not challenge the cell fuction like a production line
Which if you would just turn to the 4th example on this article you would see is true
Ribosomes aren’t “made by something” and do don't “make” anything and nothing is “constructed” - a chemical reaction occurs that converts amino acids into chains. Just Chemical reactions.
robosomes build proteins. if they are not made how did they get there.
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
liberals are blinded. they put aborted babies in vaccines and there telling me there is not a problem.I said that knowing you were not going to understand. when i say you have been blinded by god i mean you have been blinded by god
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/aborted-fetuses-vaccines/story?id=29005539
George bush does magical ritual has kids chant kite hit steal plane must right before 911
https://youtu.be/vdAfqLgjh1s?t=327
As I said, combustion, breaks down individual raw materials, then in a sequence of steps reassembles the molecules into a lower energy state - fire is a production line.
no it is not
something makes the ribosomes.
The ribosome create the protein. the protein goes somewhere else and someone turns he protein into muscle muscles.
God created the rabbit white to go with the white snow.
I am trying to explain this by listing an example of something that use's the same logic. They do not need to be biologically the same.As long as you can tell both of there colors were picked useing the same logic
that god created rabbits white to match the white snow.God used the same logic to pick the color as someone who has a red plate so he gets a red cup to go with it.
"That’s what is similar between a production line and a cell - and when you express it like that, it doesn’t seem at all indicative of intelligence. It’s only when you deliberately push human words, and human concepts onto the cell (which doesn’t have them), does it sound like it. "
the colors of animals have nothing to do with the cell. i am claiming this to be true.
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
There functionality is both exactly the same.Let me ask you this how do you think a factory is made.I will copy your wording and explain the cell version
Do you not think it would take intelligence to create a factory line
i don't understand your logic. So we can not use analogy's Except when something is exactly the same.Both the cell and a factory work in a production line.You seem to be saying this is wrong because both have some differences
The reason why i keep loosing debate's is because i am saying god exist. I could rack up a win streak easily if i said believe in Jesus is like believe in Santa And ascribed myself to liberal doctrine.
It holds more then simalarity's a cell functions like a factory.
Is that why your not understanding this.you confuse why i use analogy;s. You misunderstand why people use analogy.i kept using this analogy because this is what i am saying god did. I did not use the analogy because it is something humans understand.But because i am saying god did the same thing as the example. Maybe you will understand this now
Again a cell is like a production line.IT is compared to it because it is very similar to how it works if not the same as a production line. my source said the ribosomes are the worker. nucleus is the chief officer
And the Endoplasmic Reticulum (ER) is the assembly line where the ribosome do there work.It act the same way as a factory line
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
"We are built the same way a car is built.
A bunch of parts with certain function put together"
A car is made out of a couple thousand parts
A human is made out a couple million parts.
Each part has a purpose. When all parts are put together we have a car and a human
it is not a chemical reaction.The bones the fiber the meat the joints in my arm are not a chemical reaction. Nether are the membrane the cytoplasm or the lipids in my cells.
"DNA/chromosome « plans: Each factory has plans that govern the production and development of their products, as well as plans that govern the day-to-day operation of the factory. DNA is analogous to such plans, providing the code not only for all cell products, but also the proteins that govern daily operations within the cell."
"We can see physical production lines - built by humans that create cars."
OK so by your logic if we only able see the production line and it created car's.We would not know humans made it.because we did not physically see human make it.We see the production line in the DNA repair system. We see what are DNA produces
There is over 100 different enzymes working in a production line. Why is this not intelligent design.
https://youtu.be/sX6LncNjTFU?t=361
but 100 people in a production line in some factory is intelligent design.
The simple cell literally builds a factory on demand then despand so it won't harm anything then reexpand in a safe place
This guy explains the factory of simple cell
https://youtu.be/r4sP1E1Jd_Y?t=1099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX6LncNjTFU
"Yes: we observe the final product is a cartoon character - and we know cartoon characters are created."
Your missing the point we do not need any knowledge on the subject.
Clearly you do not need to know anything about pikachu or Nintendo it could be just another animal in the wild for all you know. Clearly you can see the color yellow was picked intelligently.Is it not obvious.
Half of my examples i have no knowledge about.I just find random picture on the internet that show's the proof i want and show the reason why they picked the color.
"We can see physical production lines - built by humans that create cars."
This is off topic but i do not know how people not believe in god.a simple cell functions like a factory. our DNA works like a factory.It really is double standards.That the human factory are intelligent design but the one's our body does are not.
https://youtu.be/r4sP1E1Jd_Y?t=1099
http://www.drpasswater.com/nutrition_library/dnarepair.html
"No one has ever looked at the colour of a Pikachu and thought: “hmmm, you know, this character must have been created because this shade of yellow is too perfect.”
I have done that.pikachu is colored yellow because lightning is yellow
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15aozlAhM1TqcShp2218xc7MTpiP-vCTHfU6Eu93SEo0/edit
Yes we know Nintendo was created by humans because duh.But we can see Nintendo created it just by observing the final product
"The other properties I listed are the reason we conclude computer game characters are created by an intelligence, and the colors were intelligently selected. If rabbits don’t have ALL of those properties -"
those properties are not why we conclude that the game was created by an intelligent choice.We conclude that it came by an intelligent choice by observing the color and wondering if there is a reason why they colored it a certain way. We do not even need to know that the properties you listed were even a thing.
observe the color's do we even need to see them physically create the game
Nintendo created cactus thing yellow to match yellow desert level
The other properties have zero relevance to it.unless you can give a reason why.The guy making the game is irrelevant. We could tell that they made an intelligent choice without even knowing all of that
Do you even understand what i am trying to say.You can't win the properties in animals argument.There is so advance that it is dumb to even say anything but god created it.
i keep saying the same thing two.God did the same intelligent choice as Nintendo did.The properties in a living organism is proof of god not evolution.Even the simple cell is far more complex than anything humans have made.It is like a transformer in that kids movie you know how a transformer turns into a car. A cell can morph into a factory on demand.
A simple cell works like the transformers in those car robot movies
https://youtu.be/r4sP1E1Jd_Y?t=1099
Science is really good at telling us how stuff works. but not how something came to be.telling me how something works like DNA, does not disprove god.It only supports god made it because it is so Advance
I do believe everything has been created by god.
Telling me how an complicated science topic like DNA or atoms works. does not disprove god made them. But only promote it because they are so advance
We Sure do. i guess evolution is not a fact like you were saying on the other forum.You accept facts when it benefits you
But there are seasonal creature's and camouflage creatures. Who do not take millions of years but change season to season.
Rabbits are brown during the summer but white during the winter.
It would not make sense if god put a black rabbit in the white snow.
So god was using intelligence when he put the white rabbit in the white snow
It would not make sense for me to get a red cup to go with my blue plate.
So i used intelligence when i got a blue cup to go with my blue plate.
It would not make sense for god to create a white animals in the desert.
So god used intelligence when he put a yellow animal in the yellow desert
A cell works word for word for what a production line is.Again look at my article
This not working i will reword
It would not make sense if god put a black rabbit in the white snow.
So god was using intelligence when he put the white rabbit in the white snow
People matching red cups to red plates is a subjective style choice
If i have a red microwave and i get a red fridge. IT Would look nicer because they match.It would make more sense then a red microwave and a blue fridge would it not.
God created animals white to go with the white snow.It look nicer because the match white rabbit with white snow they both match. It makes much more sense then blue rabbit and white snow it would not be smart if he did that
Since a red rabbit and or blue rabbit do not go well with white snow
God was intelligent when he created the rabbit white so it would go with the snow
The “intelligence” you are arguing in the process comes solely from you using human words that imply design. Unfortunately, the words you use to describe something cant change what that something is.
No matter how much you refer to a cell as a production line, no matter how often you use loaded words that imply intent like “made” and “create”, the nature of what a cell is won’t change; it is now and will remain a set of sequential chemical reactions unique only due to the size of the chemicals involved and the result they produce.
dammit this does not challenge the cell fuction like a production line
Which if you would just turn to the 4th example on this article you would see is true
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
Ribosomes aren’t “made by something” and do don't “make” anything and nothing is “constructed” - a chemical reaction occurs that converts amino acids into chains. Just Chemical reactions.
robosomes build proteins. if they are not made how did they get there.
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
God created the animals in the snow white to match the white snow
God created the animals in the desert yellow to match the yellow desert
God created the animals in the tree's green to match the green leaves
God used the same logic to pick the animals color's as my example
I got green cup to match green plate
I got red cup to match red plate
I god blue cup to match blue plate
Give me a second to respond
Again science is really good at telling us how stuff works not how it came to be.
I know how seasonal animals works.I am saying the reason it is that way is because god made an intelligent choice
God created rabbit white to match the white snow.
He used the same logic when pickking the color.
As someone who had a red cup so he god a red plate to match it
liberals are blinded. they put aborted babies in vaccines and there telling me there is not a problem.I said that knowing you were not going to understand. when i say you have been blinded by god i mean you have been blinded by god
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/aborted-fetuses-vaccines/story?id=29005539
George bush does magical ritual has kids chant kite hit steal plane must right before 911
https://youtu.be/vdAfqLgjh1s?t=327
Nothing wrong here.
As I said, combustion, breaks down individual raw materials, then in a sequence of steps reassembles the molecules into a lower energy state - fire is a production line.
no it is not
something makes the ribosomes.
The ribosome create the protein. the protein goes somewhere else and someone turns he protein into muscle muscles.
go away
rabbit are brown during the summer bright white during the winter. they are seasonal.
Can you just forget the evolution stuff for a second
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ZRNgGS0JpBElUU_5UFGFRbA3uqfwgPdghX6CfirgTQ/edit
That is all that is needed to be the same.
God created the rabbit white to go with the white snow.
I am trying to explain this by listing an example of something that use's the same logic. They do not need to be biologically the same.As long as you can tell both of there colors were picked useing the same logic
that god created rabbits white to match the white snow.God used the same logic to pick the color as someone who has a red plate so he gets a red cup to go with it.
"That’s what is similar between a production line and a cell - and when you express it like that, it doesn’t seem at all indicative of intelligence. It’s only when you deliberately push human words, and human concepts onto the cell (which doesn’t have them), does it sound like it. "
the colors of animals have nothing to do with the cell. i am claiming this to be true.
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
There functionality is both exactly the same.Let me ask you this how do you think a factory is made.I will copy your wording and explain the cell version
Do you not think it would take intelligence to create a factory line
"Industrial Plants work through mechanical processes and have almost no negative feedback loops. They are completely different."
We have a couple million cells in our body. how many of your do not work.
I got a red cup to go with a red plate.
God created the animals white to go with the white snow.
There completely different but both use the same logic
Firstly i am loosing because i can not get people to understand what i am trying to say and liberals are blind
Secondly like i said before. the cell function and acts like a factory. Secondly many parts in it act in a production line
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
THe functionality of cell parts works exactly the same as parts in a factory. They may be different object's but there functionality is the same.
I got my dog a blue collar to go with the blue doghouse
I got a red plate to go with a red cup
There biologically different but the logic is the same
Again trust me you would not be arguing with me if you understood.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ZRNgGS0JpBElUU_5UFGFRbA3uqfwgPdghX6CfirgTQ/edit
i don't understand your logic. So we can not use analogy's Except when something is exactly the same.Both the cell and a factory work in a production line.You seem to be saying this is wrong because both have some differences
You would not be arguing with me if you understood what i have been trying to say.
I guess i just have dump some holy water on my computer and pray
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ZRNgGS0JpBElUU_5UFGFRbA3uqfwgPdghX6CfirgTQ/edit
A production line is not an physical object but a process.The cell use's this process.A factory uses this proccess
The reason why i keep loosing debate's is because i am saying god exist. I could rack up a win streak easily if i said believe in Jesus is like believe in Santa And ascribed myself to liberal doctrine.
It holds more then simalarity's a cell functions like a factory.
Is that why your not understanding this.you confuse why i use analogy;s. You misunderstand why people use analogy.i kept using this analogy because this is what i am saying god did. I did not use the analogy because it is something humans understand.But because i am saying god did the same thing as the example. Maybe you will understand this now
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ZRNgGS0JpBElUU_5UFGFRbA3uqfwgPdghX6CfirgTQ/edit
Again a cell is like a production line.IT is compared to it because it is very similar to how it works if not the same as a production line. my source said the ribosomes are the worker. nucleus is the chief officer
And the Endoplasmic Reticulum (ER) is the assembly line where the ribosome do there work.It act the same way as a factory line
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
"We are built the same way a car is built.
A bunch of parts with certain function put together"
A car is made out of a couple thousand parts
A human is made out a couple million parts.
Each part has a purpose. When all parts are put together we have a car and a human
look's like you ended it. So it has ended
We are built the same way a car is built.
A bunch of parts with certain function put together
both are physical machines assembly parts into a whole what is not being understood
the third column explains what the parts do
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
it is not a chemical reaction.The bones the fiber the meat the joints in my arm are not a chemical reaction. Nether are the membrane the cytoplasm or the lipids in my cells.
The reason why they compare the two is because the parts function the same way and or very similar to a factory
The cell part's work in a production line
look at the 4th example
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
look at the 4th example
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
A lot of part of a production line in a human factory Work the same way or similarly of a part in a cell
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
"DNA/chromosome « plans: Each factory has plans that govern the production and development of their products, as well as plans that govern the day-to-day operation of the factory. DNA is analogous to such plans, providing the code not only for all cell products, but also the proteins that govern daily operations within the cell."
https://www.csun.edu/science/books/sourcebook/chapters/10-analogies/analogy-cell.html
i WiIl never understand how people do not see this as intelligent design
http://sciencenetlinks.com/student-teacher-sheets/comparing-cell-factory-answer-key/
"We can see physical production lines - built by humans that create cars."
OK so by your logic if we only able see the production line and it created car's.We would not know humans made it.because we did not physically see human make it.We see the production line in the DNA repair system. We see what are DNA produces
There is over 100 different enzymes working in a production line. Why is this not intelligent design.
https://youtu.be/sX6LncNjTFU?t=361
but 100 people in a production line in some factory is intelligent design.
The simple cell literally builds a factory on demand then despand so it won't harm anything then reexpand in a safe place
This guy explains the factory of simple cell
https://youtu.be/r4sP1E1Jd_Y?t=1099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX6LncNjTFU
"Yes: we observe the final product is a cartoon character - and we know cartoon characters are created."
Your missing the point we do not need any knowledge on the subject.
Clearly you do not need to know anything about pikachu or Nintendo it could be just another animal in the wild for all you know. Clearly you can see the color yellow was picked intelligently.Is it not obvious.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15aozlAhM1TqcShp2218xc7MTpiP-vCTHfU6Eu93SEo0/edit
Half of my examples i have no knowledge about.I just find random picture on the internet that show's the proof i want and show the reason why they picked the color.
"We can see physical production lines - built by humans that create cars."
This is off topic but i do not know how people not believe in god.a simple cell functions like a factory. our DNA works like a factory.It really is double standards.That the human factory are intelligent design but the one's our body does are not.
https://youtu.be/r4sP1E1Jd_Y?t=1099
http://www.drpasswater.com/nutrition_library/dnarepair.html
"No one has ever looked at the colour of a Pikachu and thought: “hmmm, you know, this character must have been created because this shade of yellow is too perfect.”
I have done that.pikachu is colored yellow because lightning is yellow
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15aozlAhM1TqcShp2218xc7MTpiP-vCTHfU6Eu93SEo0/edit
Yes we know Nintendo was created by humans because duh.But we can see Nintendo created it just by observing the final product
"The other properties I listed are the reason we conclude computer game characters are created by an intelligence, and the colors were intelligently selected. If rabbits don’t have ALL of those properties -"
those properties are not why we conclude that the game was created by an intelligent choice.We conclude that it came by an intelligent choice by observing the color and wondering if there is a reason why they colored it a certain way. We do not even need to know that the properties you listed were even a thing.
observe the color's do we even need to see them physically create the game
Nintendo created cactus thing yellow to match yellow desert level
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ZRNgGS0JpBElUU_5UFGFRbA3uqfwgPdghX6CfirgTQ/edit
God created Rabbit white to match the white snow.
"Didnt get to appreciate this golden article due to nyt paywall... but are you really trying to establish fact via a 30 year old opinion piece?!?"
https://youtu.be/r4sP1E1Jd_Y?t=650
he is saying origin of life research has not advanced in 50 years
The other properties have zero relevance to it.unless you can give a reason why.The guy making the game is irrelevant. We could tell that they made an intelligent choice without even knowing all of that
it does not matter if they are different properties. The logic is the same.
Do you even understand what i am trying to say.You can't win the properties in animals argument.There is so advance that it is dumb to even say anything but god created it.
Nintendo created cactus thing yellow to match yellow desert level
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ZRNgGS0JpBElUU_5UFGFRbA3uqfwgPdghX6CfirgTQ/edit
God created Rabbit white to match the white snow.
They may be different but that does not change the logic is the same
i keep saying the same thing two.God did the same intelligent choice as Nintendo did.The properties in a living organism is proof of god not evolution.Even the simple cell is far more complex than anything humans have made.It is like a transformer in that kids movie you know how a transformer turns into a car. A cell can morph into a factory on demand.
A simple cell works like the transformers in those car robot movies
https://youtu.be/r4sP1E1Jd_Y?t=1099
Science is really good at telling us how stuff works. but not how something came to be.telling me how something works like DNA, does not disprove god.It only supports god made it because it is so Advance
It is actually a myth that science has come anywhere close to discovering how we came to be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4sP1E1Jd_Y
It is not irrelevant. Nintendo did the same thing i am claiming god did.
The reason why Nintendo colored this creature yellow was because it was an enemy in the yellow desert level.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12ZRNgGS0JpBElUU_5UFGFRbA3uqfwgPdghX6CfirgTQ/edit
The reason why rabbits are white during the winter is because go colored them white to match the white snow.