If this comes down to the definition of plagiarism, that will be annoying. I think Pro has a point since the points are just from the bible (he's literally citing the primary source); they could settle it by citing atheists.org, but Con may win on a technicality.
I don't think arguments themselves are copyrighted, maybe some of the phrasing though.
I agree with some of that, but I don't think it's the government's job to decide if people deserve something. People who inherit money should still get to keep it, for example.
The total amount of wealth is not fixed. Money is simply a store of value. But other items, such as cars, also have value. So if a car is produced at a low cost and sold, both parties become better off. Ford example in link above.
If a farmer selling food helps the seller and not the buyer, why would anyone buy food? If it helps the buyer and not the seller, why would anyone sell food? Obviously, it helps both parties, so who is it hurting if the economy is zero-sum?
Bill Gates is fighting Malaria. The Gates foundation is actually one of the most effective; he and Melinda were some of the first to search for the most effective forms of charity. Once you've invented a vaccine for malaria (which they've invested a lot in) it doesn't get un-invented. He makes more money, but so long as he's doing a good thing and he's not stealing the money, I don't have any complaints.
Besos didn't claim all of a public resource the way Nestle did (like coconuts). He networked with book retailers and invested in infrastructure to sell books online. Claiming the coconuts in the first place is ridiculous, creating a company isn't. People have faster shipping and jobs. Amazon workers get payed $15 an hour, which Bernie wanted. Besos is a net benefit.
So I don't agree that billionaires become rich in a way that makes others poor.
Some billionaires do give their money away, even more than middle-class people. I don't think it's immoral to be rich if you're earning the money. Every time someone works for Amazon, it's a net benefit. Otherwise they wouldn't agree to work there.
Even by being middle-class you "cause" people to suffer, since money could be donated to help people. The most effective charities can save a life for $4,500. It depends on how you define cause and if by inaction you are actually responsible for their death.
Also the economy is not zero-sum. The money supply can remain constant but products themselves have value and are often developed by large corporations. Also the cost of living can decrease if products become cheaper over time. The technology we have today is vastly better than what we had 100 years ago, and arguably due to the same system that created billionaires.
I actually didn't know if anyone held the opposing position.
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Just voted. I have several debates in voting too, if you could vote on those it would be great!
Even if police were super racist, there's enough other factors to make this an easy win for Pro
Be sure to vote!!
This looks interesting
If this comes down to the definition of plagiarism, that will be annoying. I think Pro has a point since the points are just from the bible (he's literally citing the primary source); they could settle it by citing atheists.org, but Con may win on a technicality.
I don't think arguments themselves are copyrighted, maybe some of the phrasing though.
Can you remove my vote so I can give all 7 points to the winner?
If people were better off making their own things instead of specializing in a trade, they wouldn't get jobs
So which Korea is the best one?
I agree with some of that, but I don't think it's the government's job to decide if people deserve something. People who inherit money should still get to keep it, for example.
Not if you get paid and then buy a car. Assembly lines and capitalism made cars many times cheaper.
So you agree the 1% earned their money?
https://www.richmondfed.org/-/media/richmondfedorg/publications/research/econ_focus/2005/spring/pdf/jargon_alert.pdf
The total amount of wealth is not fixed. Money is simply a store of value. But other items, such as cars, also have value. So if a car is produced at a low cost and sold, both parties become better off. Ford example in link above.
If a farmer selling food helps the seller and not the buyer, why would anyone buy food? If it helps the buyer and not the seller, why would anyone sell food? Obviously, it helps both parties, so who is it hurting if the economy is zero-sum?
How is Bill Gates making people go hungry?
Which is the best Korea? You support communism but also hate censorship.
Bill Gates is fighting Malaria. The Gates foundation is actually one of the most effective; he and Melinda were some of the first to search for the most effective forms of charity. Once you've invented a vaccine for malaria (which they've invested a lot in) it doesn't get un-invented. He makes more money, but so long as he's doing a good thing and he's not stealing the money, I don't have any complaints.
Besos didn't claim all of a public resource the way Nestle did (like coconuts). He networked with book retailers and invested in infrastructure to sell books online. Claiming the coconuts in the first place is ridiculous, creating a company isn't. People have faster shipping and jobs. Amazon workers get payed $15 an hour, which Bernie wanted. Besos is a net benefit.
So I don't agree that billionaires become rich in a way that makes others poor.
Some billionaires do give their money away, even more than middle-class people. I don't think it's immoral to be rich if you're earning the money. Every time someone works for Amazon, it's a net benefit. Otherwise they wouldn't agree to work there.
Even by being middle-class you "cause" people to suffer, since money could be donated to help people. The most effective charities can save a life for $4,500. It depends on how you define cause and if by inaction you are actually responsible for their death.
Also the economy is not zero-sum. The money supply can remain constant but products themselves have value and are often developed by large corporations. Also the cost of living can decrease if products become cheaper over time. The technology we have today is vastly better than what we had 100 years ago, and arguably due to the same system that created billionaires.
Are the plagiarism rules really that strict? It seems kind of nitpicky if someone would ding you for that.
It's hard to match up your lyrics to the beat since you use vastly different amounts of syllables on each line
You must be new here
There's a lot of references here, so I hope history nerds vote on this battle
Plz vote if you have time
Let's see your BARS
I'm not sure if this is supposed to be funny and witty or just as vulgar as possible
The wording here is going to be the focus of the debate. The gap exists, but not due to gender discrimination.
I expected that Con would wait until the final round to give most of his arguments, and I was not disappointed.
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All votes are appreciated!!
CON's R3 Sources
1. https://www.nps.gov/articles/industry-and-economy-during-the-civil-war.htm#:~:text=By%201860%2C%2090%20percent%20of,100%20produced%20in%20the%20South.
2. https://www.britannica.com/event/Anaconda-plan
3. https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/the-union-blockade-of-the-southern-states.html
4. https://www.nps.gov/articles/industry-and-economy-during-the-civil-war.htm#:~:text=The%20Union's%20industrial%20and%20economic,mobilization%20of%20resources%20more%20difficult.
5. http://projects.leadr.msu.edu/usforeignrelations/exhibits/show/british-involvement-in-the-ame#:~:text=In%20order%20to%20avert%20open,use%20and%20expansion%20of%20slavery.
6. https://study.com/learn/lesson/secession-from-the-union.html#:~:text=Southern%20states%20seceded%20from%20the,rights%2C%20and%20promote%20tariff%20laws.
7. https://www.historyonthenet.com/grant-and-lees-winning-civil-war-strategy
8. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_theater_of_the_American_Civil_War
9. https://www.legendsofamerica.com/ah-easterntheater/
10. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/robert-e-lees-decision-invade-north-september-1862
11. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/civil-war/battles/antietam
12. https://www.wondriumdaily.com/robert-e-lee-the-greatest-confederate-general/#:~:text=Robert%20E.%20Lee's%20Strategy%20in%20War&text=And%20that%20was%20what%20he,to%20what%20the%20enemy%20did.
13. https://www.newsletter.co.uk/heritage-and-retro/heritage/icon-civil-war-just-how-great-general-was-robert-e-lee-2985375
14. https://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/battle-of-the-wilderness#:~:text=The%20Battle%20of%20the%20Wilderness%20ended%20inconclusively%2C%20though%20the%20Union,toll%20suffered%20by%20the%20Confederates.
15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fort_Donelson#Breakout_attempt_(February_15)
16. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vicksburg#Assaults
17. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vicksburg#Assaults
18. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vicksburg#Siege_operations
19. https://www.grantunderfire.com/738/when-is-a-quote-on-ulysses-s-grant-insufficient-for-historical-purposes/
Somebody was
Yeah
Don't you need to be in three debates to vote? It doesn't look like FLRW has done any.
CON's R2 Sources
1. https://owlcation.com/humanities/Southern-Advantages-Three-Ways-the-Confederacy-had-the-Upper-Hand-in-the-Civil-War
2. https://history.state.gov/milestones/1861-1865/blockade#:~:text=President%20Abraham%20Lincoln%20sided%20with,all%20the%20major%20southern%20ports.
3. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/total-war-civil-wars-effect-home-front#:~:text=The%20American%20Civil%20War%20has,in%20which%20soldiers%20remained%20widely
4. https://www.english.uga.edu/sites/default/files/2009-2010_Barnett_Mays_John.pdf
5. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/north-and-south
6. https://www.ushistory.org/us/33b.asp#:~:text=The%20South%20could%20produce%20all,proved%20to%20be%20very%20resourceful.
6 again (accidentally wrote same number twice). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_soldiers_in_the_American_Civil_War
7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gettysburg
8. https://towardsdatascience.com/napoleon-was-the-best-general-ever-and-the-math-proves-it-86efed303eeb
9. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/which-general-was-better-ulysses-s-grant-or-robert-e-lee-180952005/
10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant_and_the_American_Civil_War#Battles_of_Belmont,_Fort_Henry,_and_Fort_Donelson
11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant_and_the_American_Civil_War#Battles_of_Belmont,_Fort_Henry,_and_Fort_Donelson
12. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gettysburg
13. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Vicksburg
14. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_Plan
15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant_and_the_American_Civil_War#The_Battle_of_Vicksburg
16. https://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/vicksburg-campaign#:~:text=Grant%20made%20some%20attacks%20after,with%2070%2C000%20troops%2C%20captured%20Vicksburg.
17. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jackson,_Mississippi
18. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulysses_S._Grant_and_the_American_Civil_War#Chattanooga
19. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/lincolns-unsent-letter-george-meade
20. https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/napoleon-invades-russia
21. https://www.wondriumdaily.com/robert-e-lee-the-greatest-confederate-general/#:~:text=Robert%20E.%20Lee's%20Strategy%20in%20War&text=And%20that%20was%20what%20he,to%20what%20the%20enemy%20did.
This was fun
But if you don't have a permit, you're not permitted to do the particular thing. Permit/permitted come from the same root.
No. People can do things even without permits.
Allowed = permitted or authorized
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/allowed
Selling their kidneys illegally
CON's R1 Sources:
1. https://www.coreknowledge.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/CKHG-G5-U11-about-advantages-and-disadvantages.pdf
2. https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/facts.htm#:~:text=In%20July%201861%2C%20the%20two,January%201863%20totaled%20over%20600%2C000.
3. https://ethanarsht.github.io/military_rankings/
4. https://americanhistory.si.edu/lincoln/lincolns-generals
5. https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/ulysses-s-grant-s-path-to-victory-the-1864-overland-campaign.htm
6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gettysburg
7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War#Union_blockade
8. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/which-general-was-better-ulysses-s-grant-or-robert-e-lee-180952005/
9. https://civilwar.vt.edu/robert-e-lee-the-eternal-general/
10. https://www.newsletter.co.uk/heritage-and-retro/heritage/icon-civil-war-just-how-great-general-was-robert-e-lee-2985375
11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Wilderness#Grant's_plan
12. https://www.history.com/topics/american-civil-war/battle-of-the-wilderness#:~:text=The%20Battle%20of%20the%20Wilderness%20ended%20inconclusively%2C%20though%20the%20Union,toll%20suffered%20by%20the%20Confederates.
13. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/total-war-civil-wars-effect-home-front#:~:text=The%20American%20Civil%20War%20has,in%20which%20soldiers%20remained%20widely
14. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/congress-passes-civil-war-conscription-act#:~:text=During%20the%20Civil%20War%2C%20the,becoming%20citizens%2C%20by%20April%201.
15. https://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured-documents/emancipation-proclamation#:~:text=President%20Abraham%20Lincoln%20issued%20the,and%20henceforward%20shall%20be%20free.%22
16. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-lincoln/lincoln-letter-on-gettysburg-found-at-u-s-archives-idUSN0720751120070607
People do things they're not allowed to do, so your premise is false
Just say "I forfeit," it's quicker
All votes are appreciated
Welp, still got a month for voting
Fingers crossed
If any of you have time, plz vote