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@PressF4Respect
What was the reason to prevent campaigning and vote-coordination in the first place?
Sure. I think that's a fair question.
So, I don't conceive of the Hall of Fame election as a regular kind of election. I think that the HOF should not be a popularity contest. Despite it's name, I think it should be about making a clear-eyed decision regarding who actually deserves entry. At the start of this process, I said: "This process is about awarding those with merit or importance, and not about awarding those who can cajole the most voters." The HOF should be less about people tooting their own horn, and more about the community making a smart call about who has actually had the biggest impact on the community. I still think that's true, but I grossly underestimated people's capacity to troll.
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@PressF4Respect
Why was this a thing in the first place (I mean, it did make for MEME-QUALITY 👌🔥💯 threads, but still)?
Ahhh..
Well, I think I made a mistake in prohibiting campaigning and vote coordination. That allowed a lot of the drama to occur. Next time, those rules won't exist, so hopefully we can have a drama-free HOF.
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E. Conclusion
Ultimately, I came full circle--from tentative belief in Hammer's admission to believing that it was probable that Hammer had lied. And not only had he lied to DART, he lied to moderation, and he falsified evidence to perpetuate that lie. Since most moderation decisions (except perma-bans) are made on a probability standard, the evidence was, in my view, sufficient to support a temporary ban.
This finding of probability rested on my assessment of the trustworthiness of my source, Hammer's outright and total refusal to provide any genuine evidence of his innocence (particularly usernames), and various situational factors which, taken together and with the other evidence, indicated that Hammer's post had likely been fabricated in an attempt to troll the site. And he has managed to successfully troll the site, allowing more drama to continue to be dredged up and providing fodder for a number of specious accusations and conspiracy theories. And as for the length of Hammer's ban, that has already been explained. Indeed, this whole Hammer saga was already fulsomely addressed. But just keep this in mind: at rock bottom, if you want your innocence to be believed, you have to provide some evidence for your innocence, esp. when evidence of your guilt already exists. Codes of silence cannot be legitimate tools to protect against violations of the rules.
It is time now to move on from the drama and to proceed with the regular goings-on of the site. The Hall of Fame is over, and the official thread will soon be updated with our amazing inductees' information. The trolling really does need to end at some point, and I think now is that time.
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This thread will be locked in 3 hours to prevent it becoming a locus of drama or flaming. It is, as I said, time to move on. Nothing about this thread being lock however will prevent users from citing it elsewhere.
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B. Receipt of Contrary Evidence
It was at this point that a third party contacted me informing me that Hammer was lying and that no such coordination had taken place. This third party requested that I maintain their anonymity--a request I have every intention of respecting. I judged this third party to be trustworthy, and was able to match parts of their story with Hammer's, further persuading me of the potential truthfulness of their account. Both parties, for instance, provided me with the same number of people in the group chat--an unlikely coincidence if they were not both in fact a part of said chat. This information was publicly disclosed by me in my announcement regarding the validity of Hammer's allegations.
Now, with credible testimonial evidence directly contradicting Hammer's allegations, I felt that it was even more necessary that I obtain evidence from Hammer in order to establish his probably guilt or innocence. I informed him that I needed a screenshot to verify Hammer's allegations. I said that he could redact any personally-identifying information from the image(s), so that no one's IRL identity or facebook profile was disclosed. Together with the visual evidence and the usernames, I could establish the truth of the matter by comparing those users' testimony to the visual evidence. At the very least, I would have needed just some DART usernames. But, as I noted, Hammer refused to provide me with even usernames. I repeatedly stressed to Hammer that in light of me receiving evidence contradicting his account, that I needed him to provide me with something which indicated his innocence.
C. Evidence Falsification
Hammer eventually sent me an image that I am confident was fabricated. I am confident that it is fake for at least five reasons. First, none of the first page votes were solely for RM. Second, LordLuke, who cast the only one-off RM vote, has no known ties to or interaction with Hammer, whereas RM is one of the few people with which LordLuke does have established ties or known interactions. This suggests that the vote for RM was genuine and not prompted by Hammer. Third, LordLuke's vote was more than a vote for "just RM." While RM was his only user vote, he did take time to vote for threads, which suggests that his vote was more than a just an auto-vote for RM. Fourth, the anonymous third party searched for any RM vote solicitations and denied to me that there were any. Finally, and importantly, LordLuke himself has since denied being contacted via a Facebook group chat about voting for RM in the HOF election. He told me (quoting with permission): "But no, nobody told me to vote for RM. I voted for him because I like that sort of personality. I used to be a lot like that when I was 13. That kind of person who's always right, etc."
D. Other Evidence
There were also a number of circumstantial factors at play. Known friends and associates of Hammer--namely, Thett3 and ResurgetExFavilla--both voted at roughly the same time Hammer did. If Hammer had in fact been coordinating the vote early in the process, it struck me as unlikely that all three of them would have voted essentially at the same time later in the process. Moreover, Hammer alleged that he was attempting to get RM inducted into the HOF, yet of those three, only Thett voted for RM. In fact, the only common vote among those three was Supa. This was at the same time, of course, that Wylted was actively campaigning for Supa's induction.
There was also a telling post from ResurgetExFavilla after the events which indicated to me that I had reached the correct conclusions. His post implied that had someone not snitched (i.e. my anonymous source), the ban would have been avoided. Snitching is distinct from lying or from setting someone up; it implies breaking a code of silence with truth. This indicated, of course, that my anonymous source had pointed me in the correct direction.
Finally, I reached out to Thett, who acknowledged that he was a member of the group chat in question, but denied any knowledge of any vote campaign. I explained to him that if Hammer were telling the truth, his ban would be reduced (this is true, his ban would have been reduced to match Wylted's). I then asked Thett to pass on any exonerating evidence he might encounter, to which he replied that (and I am paraphrasing): "examining the early votes, it doesn’t appear that Hammer was telling the truth in his post." Based on this remark, it seemed to me unlikely that the early RM voters were a part of the group chat in question.
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Here I will summarize recent events and investigations relating to Wylted and Hammer. These summaries are accurate, complete, supported by cited evidence, and straightforward. They represent my final word on the issue.
I. Wylted
A. Wylted's Transgressions
Based on screenshots which were originally sent to me by a trustworthy party, I concluded that Wylted was actively campaigning for Supa's induction into the Hall of Fame despite rules prohibiting that kind of electioneering. On the basis of those screenshots, I referred the case to Castin--the Assistant Moderator for Special Cases--to further investigate. I am personally recused from moderating Wylted, and therefore stepped back to allow Castin to perform her investigation as she saw fit.
She reported back to me with the conclusion that Wylted had in fact been pursuing such an illicit campaign on Discord. She was able to confirm the validity of the screenshots with a different party (not the person who originally submitted the screenshots), and on that basis recommended a 4-day extension of Wylted's temp-ban. This was pursuant to the MEEP giving DART moderation authority over activities on Discord. When the campaigning persisted, despite Wylted being informed of this ban extension, Castin referred the issue to Discord moderation for further review.
Wylted knowingly violated the rule against campaign twice. Once when his ban was originally extended, and again when he continued to campaign despite having had his ban extended. A statement was made during the Hall of Fame voting phase stating these findings and making a ruling on the validity of certain votes cast in light of what had transpired.
B. Moderation Involvement
While some moderation figures (Supa, Vaar, and Virt) did vote with Wylted's campaign and were exposed to it, I said explicitly in a later statement that "I have not punished any user for voting with a campaign so long as they were not actively a part of the campaign." Virt also denied that Wylted's outreach had influenced his decision. No users was punished for voting with a campaign so long as they themselves were not actively doing the campaigning. No special treatment was given to these mods. Moreover, I reached out to each of these users to discuss the seriousness of their oversights. Moderation cannot be perceived to be breaking the rules it sets. I acknowledge that there choices were problematic, but, again, they received no special treatment.
II. TheHammer
A. The Beginning of the Inquiry
Hammer made a thread alleging that he had, in coordination with others, "pushed most of his early nomination votes." Having heard these allegations, I was concerned. I was initially inclined to believe Hammer's allegations in part because his cadre of friends had attempted to violate the rules of the last Hall of Fame election on DDO. I therefore needed to verify what was going on. I did not want to treat the Supa/Hammer case differently from the RM/Wylted case if indeed the situations were alike.
In my very first message to Hammer, I asked him who he had campaigned with. I also said, explicitly, that "if they were unaware of the rule, they will not be punished. I would just like to be able to verify your math." Hammer had already publicly stated that "most of them didn't even know about the no strategizing rule."
Given Hammer's admission that most were unaware of the rule and my assurance that they would not be punished in that case, I believed that Hammer would comply. Instead, Hammer consistently refused to provide me any names or other evidence with which I could corroborate his story. I either needed names of users, so that I could conduct interviews to back up his assertions, or I needed screenshots that verified Hammer's claims.
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@Castin
We just mounted it and took it for a ride like Joe mama did last night.
+1
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@Vader
Oh my, I am a youngyin
Indeed. Hence why...joe mama prefers an experienced dick.
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@David
Lol. My mind is far more x-rated than you.
Maybe...maybe not. But I am not about to find out, sorry, lol. You'll have to imagine...What's the point of having an X-rated mind without a little imagination?
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@Vader
Joe mama bored with tappin...she wants the drillin'.Joe mama thinks that's kinky when I'm tappin that
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@David
Not going to happen, lol. My mind is too X-rated.
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@David
Stop making coffee come out of my nose.
Now that is kinky.
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@Vader
This thread is golden
Golden showers. Joe mama does that Trump Tower kink.
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@Vader
Joe mama wants her HOF entry...the sex was that damn good.
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@Vader
STOP I'M LITTERALY CRYING
Joe mama needs a break she taking it so hard.
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@Vader
Joe mama want this hot-ass dick. Too bad he's gay though.
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@Imabench
*applause*Thanks for coming to my TedTalk!
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@Imabench
Power------------------------- > Fun ?Responsibility x Size
A good equation to live by. Unfortunately, I am a glutton for punishment apparently.
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@Vader
Every cloud has its silver lining.
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Welcome to DART!
It's nice to see you around. And yes, for anyone wondering, it is the real Max. I was able to confirm that.
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@RationalMadman
Then I was incorrectly informed, and you should reach out to discord moderation.
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@RationalMadman
Your proportionality concerns were already addressed by myself and Castin. It is my understanding that Wylted also received a Discord ban, which I think is appropriate.
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@PressF4Respect
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@RationalMadman
Sometimes I think you see sarcasm or humour where there isn't any at all.
I think you're missing just how funny this thread is...
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@RationalMadman
All that information is already in the public domain. I have collected the links to the relevant posts and placed them in chronological order for you here:
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Disclaimer: for anyone who doesn't get it, this is a joke. Parties mentioned may request that their names be removed from this thread at any time.
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Report on the Investigation into the Trolls' Interference in the 2019 Hall of Fame Election.
This report is based on extensive research conducted by the Bsh1 Overly Bureaucratic and Loquacious Always Stop the Trolls Research Union Service (OBLASTRUS) in conjunction with Conspiracy Theorists International, the Tal'Shiar, the Massachusetts Creative Writing Collective, and Twink Capture-and-Release Animal Rescue.
Volume I - Spacetime
Space was often bored. He was afflicted by twin curses that rendered his life a vapid hell. First, he lived in a small town. Dallas, Texas, to be specific. A town full of nothing but tumbleweed, sand, and angus cattle, it was a backwater's shithouse. And he hated every minute of it. Second, he was ripped. Being 6'4" and able bench press 350 pounds, his body was so enormous with its rippling muscles, that girls could barely make out his dick. It made it impossible for him to find dates. Sexually frustrated, decided desperate action was called for.
At the annual reaping, where the disheveled, starving townsfolk made their way out into the cornfields to see who the aliens would abduct this harvest season, Spacetime, driven to the brink of insanity by blueballs, volunteered himself as tribute. As he floated up into the air, he could only hope that they would finally, mercifully put him out of his misery.
They blindfolded him as soon as he entered their saucer. In the brief glimpse he had before the dark cloth sent him into visual oblivion, he was surprised by just how fine the china actually was, now that he saw it up close. In the black night of this semi-existence, suspended in midair for weeks on end, he felt the aliens watching him, judging him. He felt them pull out hairs from his head and laughed at his odd proportions. This was the final outrage: he felt a sense of evil growing inside him.
Sometime later, using his skills as a pirate--honed on his long sea voyages with Captain Thett--he managed to escape. Much cutlass-wielding and cannon-firing was involved. The particulars of his escape are too gory to reproduce here in detail, but [redacted]. He learned that the aliens had been cloning him and other minority men and women as part of a dastardly left-wing conspiracy to make the world more diverse! It was truly despicable.
Disgusted by what he saw, he prepared to kill the environmentally green- and LGBTQIAPABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ rainbow-colored alien scientists. But suddenly, a deliciously evil idea came to him. He knew just what to do! He had the aliens make him a clone of his own specifications, imbuing him with the miasma of Trump's orange manliness and the power of Trump's oversize hands.
And when the aliens were done, Spacetime took his clone Tyrone and took some black thread, and tied a MAGA hat on top of his head. And then with a smile most unpleasant, they headed to the voting booth to steal the election. Double voting filled Space with such an cynical, trollish delight, that he finally got off on that election night.
Volume II - TheHammer
Every twink needs his daddy, and Hammer is a twink in need of coal's smokestack. Desperate for the attention that every twink craves, Hammer concocted a half-assed plot to win his would-be daddy's pride. Of course, if the plot has been full-assed, he might have gotten something a bit better, like shale's big fracking drill, wind's huge turbine, or nuclear's explosive reactor shaft. But Hammer decided to settle for coal, and so he made his move. He decided to make a fib. A big, big fib.
Hammer slunk into the DART Forum CoOp one night, and planted evidence (written in pink crayon, because what else would a twink do?) of a plot to get RM elected into the Hall of Fame. Hammer was jealous of all the attention Spacetime had received. Where were his photo ops?! Where were his Vogue spreads?! Spacetime wasn't even pretty! And so he placed the evidence carefully around the office and left, leaving a trail of glitter and anal beads in his wake.
The next morning, upon discovering the lubricated site, investigators were called to the scene, where Hammer gleefully admitted that yes, he had rigged the election! Now his daddy would see him in the tabloids, would know that he could create drama like the best little twinks out there. He had mastered by naughty, now daddy could teach him to be nice.
Dressed in his best yellow mesh briefs, he skipped off to his booking and smiled for his mug shot. But soon his admission was exposed as fake, and he decided to pretend it had been real all along. He was going to live his fantasy, goddamnit. He had impressed his daddy, and got the attention he craved. A few lies here and there would keep the sprinkle train going.
He'd get the ban hammer now and the ass hammer later. As a flunked-out pirate, this was the best he could get, after all. Well, that and a bunch of rubrics cube trophies, which he couldn't even sell for spare parts.
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@RationalMadman
Wylted did 100000000000000000x worse in ALL ways, don't EVEN pretend.
Castin will have to speak to that, not me. I am only going to speak to the decisions I have made. Please also try to minimize the risk that this becomes a call-out of Wylted.
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@Castin
Usually, I forget that the like feature exists.
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@Castin
Sometimes, but its very rare that I do.
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@RationalMadman
The personal attack combined with the excessive trolling aggravating factor would have earned him about 10 days. What earned him the rest of that time is lying to me repeatedly and falsifying evidence in order to exonerate himself. I am not going to go into more details about that, but I will state unequivocally that obstructing a moderation investigation is an incredibly serious offense. The verbal lying earned him 10 days, and the falsification of evidence earned him the last 10 days.
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@TheRealNihilist
I make my rulings based on what I find probable, and all available evidence indicates that Hammer willfully lied to me. That's really the bottom line. I use a probability standard, not a "no reasonable doubt" standard, so the fact that other explanations exist is not a sufficient reason to exonerate Hammer.
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@Annie_ESocialBookworm
He was banned for (a) lying to moderation and refusing to cooperate in moderation's investigation, (b) excessive trolling, and (c) making knowingly false allegations designed to hurt another user on this site. That is very clearly a serious kind of personal attack.
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@thett3
Wait so did he or didn’t he violate the rules? Because you’re saying he didn’t, but he also got banned
Unless new evidence comes forward exonerating him, then I am considering him to have broken the rules. He asserts that this campaign took place in a group chat. Since he refuses to give me the usernames of those in the chat, I am urging others to come forward independently.
Hammer was banned when he was to prevent him from perpetuating any of these allegations, which I believe, based on the evidence, are without merit. Also, given his flat out and explicit refusal to cooperate, continued dialogue seemed fruitless; any new evidence can be presented to me by others involved in the scheme. Making knowingly baseless allegations against another user like that is certainly not acceptable.
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I have received testimonial evidence directly and explicitly denying the allegations made in this thread by Hammer. Key elements of this evidence (e.g. the number of people in the group chat) were corroborated during my interview with Hammer. I therefore found the evidence to be prima facie credible.
Hammer was given an opportunity to provide me with evidence supporting his claims, which he declined to do without securing the permission of those involved in the scheme first. Privacy cannot be used as a shield against COC-enforcement. Codes of silence cannot be legitimate tools to protect against violations of the rules.
I also noted that no user who was unaware of the anti-coordination clause would be punished, and I have not punished any user for voting with a campaign so long as they were not actively a part of the campaign. Given this, the privacy reasoning for non-disclosure was not something I was willing to accept. Indeed, refusal to give DART usernames of those involved so that I could corroborate Hammer's claims through interviews struck me as obstructionist in a way that implied guilt.
I am therefore concluding, unless and until new evidence emerges, that the allegations made by Hammer in this thread are without merit. This was, as far as I can ascertain, an unacceptable attempt to troll. While I will not make any final judgement about the validity of the HOF results until Sunday, to allow any additional evidence out there or any additional informed parties to come forward, I am provisionally ruling that the HOF results will stand precisely as called.
If anyone has any evidence about these events to provide, they are urged to contact me so that I can better address both Hammer's actions and their permissibility as well as the HOF results' validity. Thank you.
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