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If anybody is still up, here:
Can't talk unless I move, which I might do if people join. But you can talk to me!
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@RationalMadman
If you were the PM of the UK, what would be top of the agenda?
Policies realting to climate change or the environment,
Policies related to fighting poverty,
Or policies related to drugs and drug law.
In the event that a murderer is convicted, should the state put them to death?
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@RationalMadman
Sorry, looking back to find it. Could you remind me what it was? I kbow I didn't vote for a while, if that's what it is. I don't have too much time due to family coming over for a while and the massive amount of midterm work.
Oh NVM. You mean the death penalty. Would you support the death penalty for murderers? What would you prioritize as a PM out of these three things:
1. Climate Change
2. Poverty
3. Drugs
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I don't know if this is the right section, but whatever. I am aware that I have no presence on this site, but ask me questions if you are bored.
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@Swagnarok
What historical figure is most interesting to you?
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@RationalMadman
What is your opinion of the death penalty?
If you were Prime Minister, President etc. what policies would your policy agenda be?
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@Wylted
Actually, Jung proposed that their are multiple parts of the self, including the persona, which is the mask I think you are referring to. The "self" is one of them, and represents the unified unconsciousness, and consciousness of an individual. He identified the "self" as the cohesive personality that is formed through individuation, or the process of integrating various aspects of one's personality into a single, whole "self." Often it is shown to be a dot in the center of a circle, with the ego representing the dot, and the rest of the personality representing the circle.
While difficult to grasp in theory, it seems to me that Jung is proposing that while the "shadow" component of a personality is part of the picture, there are other factors at play that create the full self. There are 4 Jungian archetypes that manifest itself in humans. These include the Persona, the Shadow, the Anima/Animus, and the aforementioned self. These archetypes, according to Jung, shape our behavior and personality in radically different ways. So, to suggest that one part of the personality, like the shadow, is representing the entire person is equivalent to suggesting that Mick Jagger represents the entire genre of rock. Yes, he is a major part of it. I would even consider him to be a vital figure in rock and roll history. However, he cannot represent all of rock music which includes heavy metal, punk, grunge etc.
I would argue that the mask that people wear tell a lot about what they value. Someone who wears the mask of the "friendly party-goer," whether meaning to or not, would seem to enjoy being the center of attention, value the company of others, and generally be care-free. This demonstrates the values of a person in a certain situation. For instance, if the person dons an ill fitting persona in a setting where it is not appropriate, such as the aforementioned "party-goer" persona in a classroom setting, we can infer that the person desires to be liked or is bored of the class. Of course, there are many inferences that can be drawn about why someone acts a certain way at a certain time, but this is just one possibility.
While difficult to grasp in theory, it seems to me that Jung is proposing that while the "shadow" component of a personality is part of the picture, there are other factors at play that create the full self. There are 4 Jungian archetypes that manifest itself in humans. These include the Persona, the Shadow, the Anima/Animus, and the aforementioned self. These archetypes, according to Jung, shape our behavior and personality in radically different ways. So, to suggest that one part of the personality, like the shadow, is representing the entire person is equivalent to suggesting that Mick Jagger represents the entire genre of rock. Yes, he is a major part of it. I would even consider him to be a vital figure in rock and roll history. However, he cannot represent all of rock music which includes heavy metal, punk, grunge etc.
I would argue that the mask that people wear tell a lot about what they value. Someone who wears the mask of the "friendly party-goer," whether meaning to or not, would seem to enjoy being the center of attention, value the company of others, and generally be care-free. This demonstrates the values of a person in a certain situation. For instance, if the person dons an ill fitting persona in a setting where it is not appropriate, such as the aforementioned "party-goer" persona in a classroom setting, we can infer that the person desires to be liked or is bored of the class. Of course, there are many inferences that can be drawn about why someone acts a certain way at a certain time, but this is just one possibility.
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@RationalMadman
There is not too much input I could give. I personally think that the cap of posts could possibly limit some of overuse of reports. However, even with the cap, I do not know how overwhelmed the mods are with the current influx of reports. I would like to hear more from the mods on this issue before making any sort of analysis. I do see some merit to the proposal, as anonymity could make people feel more comfortable in reporting votes, posts etc. Nevertheless, I cannot conclusively form a position without the mods telling us how this would affect the amount of reporting occurring, the time it takes to sift through bad reports, and whether the issue would be exacerbated with anonymous reporting. If DDO used this method, I would want to hear from Airmax about the viability of the program on this site and the complications that could arise out of such a decision.
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@DebateArt.com
Is the creator of the site trolling us? Hell yeah.
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@Wylted
Jung proposed the idea of the shadow. This "shadow self" is part of the unconscious that the ego does not identify as the true self. In other words, we reject the notion that this shadow aspect of our personality exists. Nonetheless, we all possess one. Not all of it is negative. Just because someone does not acknowledge a certain part of themselves does not mean that said person is bad. The fact that they can tell right from wrong is showcased when they reject certain character traits that they consider undesirable. Moreover, societal attitudes impacts what people hold in their shadow as well. In certain communities, certain sexual preferences, races, classes, and other distinctions between people can play a large role in what we hide from other people, and most importantly, ourselves. Jung argues that people need to face their unconscious shadow to become truly whole as a person.
While much of Jung's work is outdated, his analysis of human behavior in this instance seems to be spot on. So, to answer your question, I think that a bad side is a part of the true self, but so is the good.
While much of Jung's work is outdated, his analysis of human behavior in this instance seems to be spot on. So, to answer your question, I think that a bad side is a part of the true self, but so is the good.
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@RationalMadman
Cool! I think I will pop into both if I can.
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@SamStevens
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@Wylted
Joining. I will wait a bit for everyone though.
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@SamStevens
Might join in the next few hours. I'm out with family right now
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@ethang5
Thanks. I did not realize I sounded so passive aggressive when I typed out the original post. Sorry about that.
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@Zeichen
@SamStevens
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@bsh1
What are your favorite movies?
Oh, and I hope you are having a fine day.
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@ethang5
You seem to have completely missed my point. All I was trying to say is that if you want people to buy what you are saying, it would be better to not say that they "side with death." No, I am not a "libtard" and yes I would imagine that some immature people would be offended. I am not offended. I am quite amused actually. I never said that you should think/feel/ do what I would do. I gave you a recommendation. As far as the "false dichotomy" is concerned, it is relatively hard to piss someone off AND change their minds. Later, you specify that you just do not care about making others angry because they are immature. I'm glad you wished for me to have a good day, (you seem to have a lot of empathy yourself for suggesting that,) but I am left confused as to the goal of this thread that you created. If you wanted to debate whether liberal policies are worse than conservative ones, there is a debate section. If you wanted to make an entire thread lambasting a political party you don't see where to eye with and then call certain people who are triggered "immature," then you are doing a good job. It is a sad sign that political discourse has degenerated to name calling, passive aggressive posts, and general outrage over minor issues.
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@KingLaddy01
I guess I should have realized by the "don't @ me" that it was a meme. LOL.
I suppose you are right about terrorists in some ways. However, I think that the majority of terrorist groups really just operate on political desires. They want political gain and will recruit people who barely fit into their ideology. This is especially prevalent in Afghanistan, where external pressure from a resurgent Taliban can affect new recruits to the US backed PMCs by targeting their families causing them to back out of training, keeping our number low while also doubling down on recruiting others.
The Combating Terrorism Center at West Point does an excellent job at detailing some of the ways that the Taliban tried to recruit others:
https://ctc.usma.edu/increase-in-taliban-efforts-to-recruit-from-afghan-government-and-security-forces/The Pew Research Center shows that the majority of Muslims tend to not support ISIS. This makes me think that other factors, such as threats or funding, play a role in recruitment:
I think it isn't too controversial to suggest that terrorism should be frowned upon, but I think that key leaders that want to selfishly hog political power, land, money etc. are the real problems. They tear apart entire countries to recruit severely misguided youth and force them to fight. Brainwashing is disgusting, and by manipulating someone's faith or forcing their hand by offering money these leaders get what they want.
Thankfully, in the US, the actual threat of dying via terrorist groups, Muslim or Far Right, is far lower than one would expect. The article makes a distinction between Muslim and Far Right Terrorism, but both tend to be foiled at a rate higher than one would imagine. I am not going to argue for/against that distinction, it just happens to be the evidence I have.
https://www.revealnews.org/article/home-is-where-the-hate-is/N64 was a great system, but I remember playing the Sega Genesis more than I played any 64 bit console (we were not that wealthy at the time, so we went for a cheaper console.) I do not have a PS4, but I really want to buy one for Persona 5 alone.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I did not mean to come off as a jerk.
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@KingLaddy01
I said that "everyone" needs to chill. I never said that everyone "will" chill or that opposition to fundamentalist groups is a bad idea. I never said that ISIL doesn't need to chill. I said EVERYBODY needs to chill. Even if someone is radical in their beliefs (i.e. ISIS, KKK, AQAP, Westboro Baptist Church etc.) I never permitted them to not chill.
Wii had great potential, but I wished it had a better roster of games. Some were pretty good (Mario Galaxy, No More Heroes, SSBB, Zelda etc.) But a few more masterpieces would not have hurt it. I also did not like the reliability of the controller. They were not well utilized in the games I played (although, perhaps the games I played we're not best to show the capability of the Wii.) Also, for some reason, the Wii motes never responded to any of my movements. I did like the ability to play older games on the virtual console and the ability to play old GameCube games though. When I realized that some games had the ability to have GC controllers plugged in, I was very happy.
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Everyone, regardless of ideology, faction, or beliefs, needs to chill.
Professional wrestling is the most unintentionally funny thing in the world.
Professional wrestling is the most unintentionally funny thing in the world.
There is a group of DDO Refugees that self-identify as furries and secretly control all of the happenings on DART. They are in control of the time-space continuum, and will outlive the destruction of the universe. They are god. They are unstoppable. They will find you. Assimilation is inevitable.
Oh, and the new generation of consoles kind of suck.
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@RationalMadman
@Vader
Whoops, thanks for the clarification.
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I vote RM for MVP.
I vote whiteflame for best voter.
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@ethang5
You know, it is quite a troubling time people live in now. Political discourse has already reached rock bottom. I do not see the benefit in vilifying an entire group of people that you do not see eye-to-eye with and assuming that they stand with "death." Even as someone who has supported conservative stances in the past, I cannot say that my ideological opposites were completely wrong all of the time. Moreover, even if I thought that someone's ideas were destructive, I see no progress being made by attacking the very ideology that they represent. I am fairly certain most people would agree that white supremacy is a destructive ideology. However, a black man named Daryl Davis changed the minds of dozens of KKK members through no use of assumptions, anger, or hatred. He formed a common ground with his ideological opponent, and emphasized talking over fighting.
As Davis states:
"If 2 enemies are talking, then they are not fighting."
If you really wanted to change people's minds and you aren't just trying to piss people off, then I would imagine that this should be the method that you use.
On the other hand, if you only want to troll and "trigger the libtards," then keep on doing what you are doing sir. Perhaps you even aspire to make as many people annoyed/bitter as possible. If this is the case, I feel immense sympathy for you.
On the other hand, if you only want to troll and "trigger the libtards," then keep on doing what you are doing sir. Perhaps you even aspire to make as many people annoyed/bitter as possible. If this is the case, I feel immense sympathy for you.
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If anybody does join, I will be afk for a little bit.
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@Zeichen
@SamStevens
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@Zeichen
@SamStevens
I can hangout tommorow night too. I can also hop on today though.
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@Zeichen
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@RationalMadman
The meme did not last. But yeah, I like the cat.
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@RationalMadman
I mean, for god's sake, my profile pic is a cat.
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@RationalMadman
*people not peippe or whatever.
Yeah, I know. I don't actually believe in what I posted. Just a joke that failed horribly.
Yeah, I know. I don't actually believe in what I posted. Just a joke that failed horribly.
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@RationalMadman
I was trying to sh**post for the heck of it. I just thought peippe would laugh at my ridiculousness. I didn't try to offend you at all.
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@SamStevens
@Castin
@RationalMadman
@David
The DDO Furries: Maroon 5 - Animal
We know they are out there. They are the secret members of the DDO Elite. They are the most powerful of all of the DDO refugees. The furries know all. They are the one's behind DDO's demise, as the mystical furry power was abused. They are omniscient beings that were here from the beginning and will be here when time and space cease to exist. Notable members include Airm... Oh Crap, they're comin!-****nojkvsalvraekvnba lvkreajgownnjv----
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YOU WILL NOT RESIST US... YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. YOUR FURSONA IS AWAKENING. YOU WILL BE TAILED. INITIATION WILL BEGIN SHORTLY. SOON, ALL OF DART WILL BE CONSUMED BY THE UNHOLY GOD MORTALS KNOW AS TWILIGHT SPARKLE. MAY OUR LORD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOULS.
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YOU WILL NOT RESIST US... YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. YOUR FURSONA IS AWAKENING. YOU WILL BE TAILED. INITIATION WILL BEGIN SHORTLY. SOON, ALL OF DART WILL BE CONSUMED BY THE UNHOLY GOD MORTALS KNOW AS TWILIGHT SPARKLE. MAY OUR LORD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR SOULS.
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@RationalMadman
@Imabench
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/67719551/here-we-go-again.jpg
In the words of Johnathan Coulton:
"Well, here we are again
In the words of Johnathan Coulton:
"Well, here we are again
It's always such a pleasure..."
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@Zeichen
https://hangouts.google.com/call/tWleWTBIepcEIeO4pTlzAEEE
SamStevens and I are in thins hangout if you are still interested. I do not mean to spam this thread sorry.
SamStevens and I are in thins hangout if you are still interested. I do not mean to spam this thread sorry.
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@Zeichen
I'm available, the link I have should have been posted. If you didn't see it, here it is:
https://hangouts.google.com/call/tWleWTBIepcEIeO4pTlzAEEE
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@Zeichen
@SamStevens
The other link is not working for me. I have a link that might work though:
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@SamStevens
It is actually not allowing me to join. Can we use a different link?
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@Zeichen
@SamStevens
Cool. I am joining right now. Hope to see you in there!
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@bsh1
Perhaps creating a seperate thread to poll people about the proposals would make establishing a consensus easier.
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@KingLaddy01
I am confused. You want to take a jab at "libs" by taking a jab at "autists?" To do so, you are advocating for forced sterilization. Is this a Republican policy that Democrats are opposed to? I do not see a causal link between autism and liberal ideologies. People's political ideology is usually determined by a host of different factors that include but are not limited to:
1. Their parents ideology
2. The beliefs of a spouse
3. The community that someone lives in.
A NYU paper published in 2007 determined that these three factors heavily influence one's political ideology (1).
An autistic person may think differently than neuro-typical people, but they still are affected by the environmental influences just described. Moreover, people are likely to vote on issues that personally affect themselves, meaning that personal experience also motivates people to consider political decisions in a certain manner. Rational people can still disagree on political matters and hold that their position is true because ideologies are not developed or created through logic and evidence. Instead, it is molded by the values that we have come to accept, and by the experience of oneself and others.
I am not necessarily suggesting that sterilization is good or bad. That is for another thread. But I do not see autistic people leaning one way or another on the political spectrum.
I am not necessarily suggesting that sterilization is good or bad. That is for another thread. But I do not see autistic people leaning one way or another on the political spectrum.
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