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what does it say about a society when life expectancy goes down instead of up?
i might add if you do a bit of research people in "nanny" states are very much happier and cotent with their lives than crazy suicidal americans are
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wait till YOU ARE old YOU LITTLE SHIT
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talk to your grandparents you little shit, are you on crack, and if you had any relgious values youd know they bible is oposed to suicide which is exactly the crazy talk you spout amounts to, a suicide that celebrates death and suiicide
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Prohibition actually worked
History has valuable lessons to teach policy makers but it reveals its lessons only grudgingly.
Close analyses of the facts and their relevance is required lest policy makers fall victim to the persuasive power of false analogies and are misled into imprudent judgments. Just such a danger is posed by those who casually invoke the ''lessons of Prohibition'' to argue for the legalization of drugs.
What everyone ''knows'' about Prohibition is that it was a failure. It did not eliminate drinking; it did create a black market. That in turn spawned criminal syndicates and random violence. Corruption and widespread disrespect for law were incubated and, most tellingly, Prohibition was repealed only 14 years after it was enshrined in the Constitution.The lesson drawn by commentators is that it is fruitless to allow moralists to use criminal law to control intoxicating substances. Many now say it is equally unwise to rely on the law to solve the nation's drug problem.
But the conventional view of Prohibition is not supported by the facts.

 Second, alcohol consumption declined dramatically during Prohibition. Cirrhosis death rates for men were 29.5 per 100,000 in 1911 and 10.7 in 1929. Admissions to state mental hospitals for alcoholic psychosis declined from 10.1 per 100,000 in 1919 to 4.7 in 1928.
Arrests for public drunkennness and disorderly conduct declined 50 percent between 1916 and 1922. For the population as a whole, the best estimates are that consumption of alcohol declined by 30 percent to 50 percent.https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opinion/actually-prohibition-was-a-success.html

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Huey Long was really a good guy that did good things despite the fact he was basically a dictator
Huey long did much more good than harm for the common folk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMUx4AQl5tI
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@zedvictor4
i think that response re enforces the dies that we are a dying society consumed with self centered ness
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how easy would it be for the us government to crush a popular uprising?
Benson and Weber cite Abraham Lincoln's executive actions during the Civil War and Dwight Eisenhower's 1957 intervention in Little Rock, Arkansas as precedents for the executive use of force in crushing a rebellion. The President would be able to mobilize the military and Department of Homeland Security to recapture a secessionist city and restore the elected government.
The government would invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807 to form a response.

From Title 10 US Code the President may use the militia or Armed Forces to:
§ 331 – Suppress an insurrection against a State government at the request of the Legislature or, if not in session, the Governor.
§ 332 – Suppress unlawful obstruction or rebellion against the U.S.
§ 333 – Suppress insurrection or domestic violence if it (1) hinders the execution of the laws to the extent that a part or class of citizens are deprived of Constitutional rights and the State is unable or refuses to protect those rights or (2) obstructs the execution of any Federal law or impedes the course of justice under Federal laws.)
The Insurrection Act governs the roles of the military, local law enforcement, and civilian leadership inside the U.S. as this type of scenario plays 

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@Dr.Franklin
you are  retarded how could it be good that people are dying of suicide and heroin over doses? stupid dick brain
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Does the Nanny state make for a better life?
Social Democracies Top Global Happiness Index Again; U.S. Falls Again money can buy happiness but a healthy family will Social Democracies Top Global Happiness Index Again; U.S. Falls Againhttps://www.truthdig.com/articles/social-democracies-top-global-happiness-index-again-u-s-falls-again/

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Suicide rates and drug abuse are so rampant Americans life spans are shrinking while other nations keep going up, how can such a society be healthy in any way? https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/09/us-life-expectancy-has-been-declining-heres-why.html
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@Snoopy
he engages in infantile association fallacies
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@Greyparrot
FDR AND THE NEW DEAL WERE A GOLDEN AGE FOR THE COMMON MAN
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@Dr.Franklin
and socialists run vienna the nicest city in the world, democrats run all major cities good or bad do some research they run the nice ones too
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@Athias
The Legatum Prosperity Index is an annual ranking developed by the Legatum Institute, a division of the private investment firm Legatum. The ranking is based on a variety of factors including wealth, economic growth, education, health, personal well-being, and quality of life.
Legatum Prosperity Index - Wikipedia
The World Happiness Report 2019, which ranks 156 countries by how happy their citizens perceive themselves to be, according to their evaluations of their own lives, was launched today at the United Nations. The report was produced in partnership with The Ernesto Illy Foundation.Mar 20, 2019
Finland Again is the Happiest Country in the World | The ...

worldhappiness.report › news › finland-again-is-the-happiest-country-in-the-...   NEW YORK, March 20 – As in 2018, Finland again takes the top spot as the happiest country in the world according to three years of surveys taken by Gallup from 2016-2018. Rounding out the rest of the top ten are countries that have consistently ranked among the happiest. They are in order: Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, New Zealand, Canada and Austria. The US ranked 19th dropping one spot from last year.
This year, the Report analyzes how life evaluations and emotions, both positive and negative, have evolved over the whole run of the Gallup World Poll, starting in 2005-2006. For life evaluations at the national level, there have been more gainers than losers.NEW YORK, March 20 – As in 2018, Finland again takes the top spot as the happiest country in the world according to three years of surveys taken by Gallup from 2016-2018. Rounding out the rest of the top ten are countries that have consistently ranked among the happiest. They are in order: Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, New Zealand, Canada and Austria. The US ranked 19th dropping one spot from last year.
This year, the Report analyzes how life evaluations and emotions, both positive and negative, have evolved over the whole run of the Gallup World Poll, starting in 2005-2006. For life evaluations at the national level, there have been more gainers than losers.https://s3.amazonaws.com/happiness-report/2019/WHR19.pdf  

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Hay what is with the vape crisis all of sudden teens are dropping like flies what gives?
what do you think about banning flavors? its seems silly nicotine is still legal, a few years back someone put cafiene and alcohol in the same drink and some college kids died, from being wide awake when they reach alcohol toxicity. they banned the drink, booze still legal cafeine still legal i will have a rum and coke still legal
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Hay what is with the vape crisis all of sudden teens are dropping like flies what gives?
Is the vape crisis real? i think it might be or is it just another way for them to control us ?https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/health-care/article234922287.html?
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What do people think about visitations by aliens over the years, new studies claim they were here
they are now saying long ago we were visited by little green men , i try to keep an open mind what do others think? https://start.att.net/news/read/article/business_insider-alien_civilizations_may_have_explored_the_galaxy_a-newscred2/category/news
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@Dr.Franklin
is it? so you ar eokay with a wlfare state the size it is in germany? https://www.pitt.edu/~heinisch/ca_germ.html
or this Codetermination in Germany is a concept that involves the right of workers to participate in management of the companies they work for.[1] Known as Mitbestimmung, the modern law on codetermination is found principally in the Mitbestimmungsgesetz of 1976. The law allows workers to elect representatives (usually trade union representatives) for almost half of the supervisory board of directors. The legislation is separate from the main German company law Act for public companies, the Aktiengesetz. It applies to public and private companies, so long as there are over 2,000 employees. For companies with 500–2,000 employees, one third of the supervisory board must be elected.
There is also legislation in Germany, known as the Betriebsverfassungsgesetz,[2] whereby workers are entitled to form Works Councils at local shop floor level.Codetermination in Germany is a concept that involves the right of workers to participate in management of the companies they work for.[1] Known as Mitbestimmung, the modern law on codetermination is found principally in the Mitbestimmungsgesetz of 1976. The law allows workers to elect representatives (usually trade union representatives) for almost half of the supervisory board of directors. The legislation is separate from the main German company law Act for public companies, the Aktiengesetz. It applies to public and private companies, so long as there are over 2,000 employees. For companies with 500–2,000 employees, one third of the supervisory board must be elected.
There is also legislation in Germany, known as the Betriebsverfassungsgesetz,[2] whereby workers are entitled to form Works Councils at local shop floor level.  Codetermination in Germany is a concept that involves the right of workers to participate in management of the companies they work for.[1] Known as Mitbestimmung, the modern law on codetermination is found principally in the Mitbestimmungsgesetz of 1976. The law allows workers to elect representatives (usually trade union representatives) for almost half of the supervisory board of directors. The legislation is separate from the main German company law Act for public companies, the Aktiengesetz. It applies to public and private companies, so long as there are over 2,000 employees. For companies with 500–2,000 employees, one third of the supervisory board must be elected.
There is also legislation in Germany, known as the Betriebsverfassungsgesetz,[2] whereby workers are entitled to form Works Councils at local shop floor level.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codetermination_in_Germany you dont find this the least bit socialistic? then fine we are in argreement because thats all i am advocating for

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@Dr.Franklin
so what? thats your brilliant argument so what life  the nanny state has been proven to create a better life? face it i beat you here you aint got squat frank
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@Dr.Franklin
Quality of Life Rankings

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    Canada takes up about two-fifths of the North American continent, making it the second-largest country in the world after Russia. The country is sparsely populated, with most of its 35.5 million residents living within 125 miles of the U.S. border. Canada’s expansive wilderness to the north plays a large role in Canadian identity, as does the country’s reputation of welcoming immigrants.
    GDP
    $1.7 trillion
    POPULATION
    36.7 million
    GDP PER CAPITA, PPP
    $48,390

  • #2 in Quality of Life Rankings
    #3 out of 80 in 2018


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    The Kingdom of Sweden, flanked by Norway to the west and the Baltic Sea to the east, expands across much of the Scandinavian Peninsula and is one of the largest countries in the European Union by land mass. Capital city Stockholm was claimed in the 16th century, and border disputes through the Middle Ages established the modern-day nation.
    GDP
    $538.0 billion
    POPULATION
    10.1 million
    GDP PER CAPITA, PPP
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  • look at the list all the best nations are nanny stateshttps://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/quality-of-life-rankings


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@Dr.Franklin

#17 in Quality of Life Rankings
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The United States of America is a North American nation that is the world’s most dominant economic and military power. Likewise, its cultural imprint spans the world, led in large part by its popular culture expressed in music, movies and television. In 2016 the country elected Donald Trump president. Trump's rhetoric and stances on issues including immigration and foreign trade have raised questions around the world, including from the country’s closest allies, about the nation’s future course on the global stage.
GDP
$19.4 trillion
POPULATION
325.7 million
GDP PER CAPITA, PPP
$59,792

17 is worse loser

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@Dr.Franklin
and you know that how? it has one of the best standards of living and the best qualities of life, and name calling isn't an argument its proof you don't have one 
#10 in Quality of Life Rankings
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Germany, the most populous nation in the European Union, possesses one of the largest economies in the world and has seen its role in the international community grow steadily since reunification. The Central European country borders nine nations, and its landscape varies, from the northern plains that reach to the North and Baltic seas to the Bavarian Alps in the south.
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@Dr.Franklin
the hell it isnt its the oldest welfare state on earth!!! 
www.slideshare.net
Otto von Bismarck, the powerful Chancellor of Germany (in office 1871–90), developed the first modern welfare state by building on a tradition of welfare programs in Prussia and Saxony that had begun as early as in the 1840s.
Welfare state - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Welfare_state  ironically the hardedt working people in the world have the oldest and most genrous welfare policies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state#Germany

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Studies show that people that life in welfare states like Denmark or Germany are happier and live bette lives and many people equate welfare spending with socialism though most welfare states were designed by liberals and implemented by conservatives to blunt the appeal of socialist ideology, but the welfare state version of capitalism works 
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Social Democracy
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@Greyparrot
all teachers in sweden belong to a union all of them BY LAW
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would it be so terrible if we turned into Canada instead of Cuba?
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@Snoopy
no its a decision made by the people carried out by the federal govenment
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@Snoopy
everyone has care, dont be daft, do people here decide? no the decisions are made byprivate comanies that over charge and bankrupt people peope are dying how is that freedom
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@Greyparrot
Je suis presque sûr que la langue officielle est le français au Québec, ou était-ce votre point d'ironie?

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see?

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@TheDredPriateRoberts
sEE THATS WHAT I am on about even libertarian think tanks like the cata insitute admit! Canada is much more free that we are it isnt even close  https://www.cato.org/human-freedom-index-new The jurisdictions that took the top 10 places, in order, were New Zealand, Switzerland, Hong Kong, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands and Denmark (tied in 6th place), Ireland and the United Kingdom (tied in 8th place), and Finland, Norway, and Taiwan (tied in 10th place). Selected countries rank as follows: Germany (13), the United States and Sweden (17), Republic of Korea (27), Japan (31), France and Chile (32), Italy (34), South Africa (63), Mexico (75), Kenya (82), Indonesia (85), Argentina and Turkey (tied in 107th place), India and Malaysia (tied in 110th place), United Arab Emirates (117), Russia (119), Nigeria (132), China (135), Pakistan (140), Zimbabwe (143), Saudi Arabia (146), Iran (153), Egypt (156), Iraq (159), Venezuela (161), and Syria (162).
Out of 10 regions, the highest levels of freedom are in North America (Canada and the United States), Western Europe, and Oceania. The lowest levels are in the Middle East and North Africa, sub-Saharan Africa, and South Asia. Women-specific freedoms, as measured by seven indicators in the index, are strongest in North America, Western Europe, and Eastern Europe and are least protected in the Middle East and North Africa, sub-Saharan Africa, and South Asia.

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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Its so sad i looked at the research of the experts it all it all points to man made global warmng climate change whatever being real and being harmful
how can you deny what it right in your face happening?
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"the greater good"
the needs of the many must out weigh the needs of the few or the one
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would it be so terrible if we turned into Canada instead of Cuba?
Look maybe I shouldn't call myself a Socialist, i DID THAT  at first because every time i suggested some moderately progressive policy, i got accused of being a Socialist or a communist. When I said okay but look at the Nordic nations , they have the policies I endorse and they thrive. I got reminded they weren't Socialist at all they were very market friendly in many ways more than we are . So I said okay lets go with those policies. I got reminded that those policies were "socialistic' . Do you see the mind f*(k going on here? I mean come on! What a stupid game, and I feel for it!@!! 

So okay maybe we cant be Western Europe either, but could we at least try for Canada? I think thats doable .
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@Greyparrot
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Social Democracy
Will the ideal society look like Denmark ,Switzerland , or Singapore ? Is small better, or must big government be contained in small states?
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