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@Best.Korea

I don't think it's bad to hate a religion that promotes harmful things like beheading, suicide bombings and fucking children.

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I looked to see if any 2 words in the rap rhyme out of context and found none. I was looking for an excuse to be a smart ass and it didn't happen so great job pro

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@FishChaser

God can fix the damage right now. Just bow your head and recite this.

Jesus christ. I accept you as my Savior and promise to fight against those who would drive people away from you by doing evil in your name. Please bless my journey. Amen.

Then you reach out to a church and start preparing for baptism.

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I probably weighed words too heavily. I have a hard time with music so I focus almost entirely on lyrics

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This is not how you end a tiebreaker.

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Let me guess the commentators ate all named Ahmed and similar names

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Bk. That Muslim lost the debate. I watched it also. He started going into conspiracy theories in the end and backed Aledo to say only child marriages in Islam count

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Apologize for 9/11 right now and I will spare pakistan when I take over the world.

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You guys are migrating so fast to the west because you know your culture is inferior and weak. Think about it. If it was superior to American culture they wouldn't be flooding America and running away from predominantly Muslim areas

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"Allah is I total control"

This is why dirty kikes have significantly less people than you and still PWN you all over the middle east.

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"i pray for all those who mock my prophet to feel the hell in the world ameen."

Typical Muslim. Christians pray that unbelievers repent and are saved but their religion is satanic so they pray for pain and suffering.

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It is a simple plan. Agreed

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Cherry trees are awesom

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How do you expect to defeat Joe Rogan in a celebrity tournament if you approach debates this way?

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I think it's likely a mistake to have your round 2 written before I write my round 1 lol

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It is highly unlikely me and underdog will have the same arguments. I am just going to pust a bunch of statistics and than make ad hominem. Attacks

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Does angry birds count as free to play?

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@Best.Korea

You accepted a debate on it with fish chaser. I would say send then to a debater I respect and if they tell me your arguments will be hard to defeat I will challenge you. I can say I am disappointed you aren't taking the penis debate seriously

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@Best.Korea

I dont want him banned. I want to debate him

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This is literally con. https://youtube.com/shorts/zISPANJT-t0?si=-blaEOS9ZFQ2nKan

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@Best.Korea

Having a girlfriend is one of the gayest things a man can do. Agree or disagree?

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not that he is one, only that he is unbiased against them. If anyone is accepting of weird sex it is that guy

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@Barney

Make ADOL a mod.

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@Barney

Did you read con's arguments? I don't oppose free speech but I do oppose the sites reaction to how they interact with an actual pedophile promoter

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"William Wallace were wearing skirts, would you call them homo?
in older times Roman and other civilizations were wearing skirt-like or long dresses.
wondering nude make you man then its foolishness.
the more clothes you put on the more humanly you are."

The Roman's literally fucked little boys so yes its a bit gay. They were also pedophiles who supported child marriag.

If you want to settle this debate me on the ethics of fucking children like your culture practices.

If you want to criticize western society for Bing gay, I won't disagree with you. We are trying to fix that. We have gay conversion camps and are electing a leader this November and more and more kids are glorifying Hitler these days which could lead to eventually electing Kanye West to clean up society

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@Best.Korea

You got it, unless mall puts up a good fight

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@Best.Korea

I will see if tigerlord accepts this first and you let me know when you have the opportunity and I will change the rules to suit you

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@Best.Korea

If you seriously put that much qork into it, I have no issue increasing rounds but don't lie to me please

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I dont want to debate you because when we discussed penis length you refused to take it serious

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https://www.debateart.com/debates/5382-child-marriage-is-disgusting-and-you-chomos-should-stop-doing-it

Also you look fat in your picture so maybe extend Ramadan an extra month for health reasons

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Debate for any chomo that wants to accept.

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Given that it is your culture to do Baka bazi. And marry 9 yer olds. I would say yes your culture is stupid and you should probably take on superior cultural values.

Your culture has you living in mud huts ducking children while I am here in America with my adult wife and enjoying good food in air conditioned comfort and in a safe area.

I also think it's gay that you guys wear dresses TBH.

You have the nerve to call me a faggot when you do Baka Bazi and wear a dress. GTFO

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Chomo

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@tigerlord

I know your people in Pakistan practice Baka Bazi and wear dresses and you have the nerve to call me gay. Okay

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Note I also debated not only the best debater on the site but the most highly rated one to give the argument the best chance of failing. I think Mikal ended up letting bluesteel do all the work but i did not do the debate in such a way as to be maximally persuasive by choosing weak opponents

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Those are in reverse order and advocate for a society that is safer for children. It's also a devil's advocate position

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**Wasted Resources**

The FBI is experiencing some severe cuts on their budget which is actually getting in the way of a lot of their counterterrorism work as well as their pursuit of real criminals.[9] It's really hard to get ahold of exactly how the FBI spends their money but suffice it to say that they spent countless millions in pursuit of lonely fat dudes spanking their monkey to little girls. They spend countless millions pursuing people that are in fact causing no harm to annybody. All these people are doing is engaging in some voyuerism and some fantasy. They aren't at risk of raping anybody or engaging in sex with a kid. If the FBI could just redirect this countless millions away from lonely fat guys and redirect it towards counter terrorism or some other vital operation that actually saves lives.

**Conclusion**

Legalizing child porn not only saves children from being raped it actually could prevent another 9/11 when you consider the FBI focusing on more important counter terrorism measures. Legalizing child porn goes a long way towards protecting our freedom of speech and goes even further in preventing disproportionate prison sentences. There is no reason that some dude spanking his monkey to child porn should get a longer prison sentence than somebody raping a child. There is no reason to arrest some 17 year old kid for distributing child porn because he sent a penis picture to his girl friend.

Vote for freedom of speech. Vote to reduce the victimization of children. Vote to counter terrorism. Vote for child porn. Vote pro.

sources

[1] [http://www.springer.com...](https://web.archive.org/web/20141106070625/http://www.springer.com/about+springer/media/springer+select?SGWID=0-11001-6-1042321-0)

[2] [http://www.theaustralian.com.au...](https://web.archive.org/web/20141106070625/http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/study-finds-no-link-between-child-porn-and-sex-abuse/story-fn3dxity-1225749645592?nk=51605fef25f5c8d9b3d397864647e19e)

[3] [http://online.wsj.com...](https://web.archive.org/web/20141106070625/http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB122471925786760689)

[4] [http://www.examiner.com...](https://web.archive.org/web/20141106070625/http://www.examiner.com/article/child-sex-offenders-short-sentencing-early-release-will-re-offend)

[5] United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, The Globalization of Crime: A Transnational Organized Crime Threat Assessment 214 (2010); Letter from David Debold, Chair and Eric A. Tirschwell, Vice Chair, Practitioners Advisory Group, to Honorable Patti B. Saris, Chair, United States Sentencing Commission 8 (February 13, 2012), available at [http://www.ussc.gov...](https://web.archive.org/web/20141106070625/http://www.ussc.gov/Legislative_and_Public_Affairs/Public_Hearings_and_Meetings/20120215)- 16/Testimony_15_PAG.pdf.

[6] [http://famm.org...](https://web.archive.org/web/20141106070625/http://famm.org/affected-families/child-pornography-sentences/)

[7] [http://en.wikipedia.org...](https://web.archive.org/web/20141106070625/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_v._California)

[8] [http://abcnews.go.com...](https://web.archive.org/web/20141106070625/http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/LegalCenter/story?id=433956&page=3)

[9] [http://www.washingtonpost.com...](https://web.archive.org/web/20141106070625/http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/new-fbi-director-james-b-comey-stunned-by-impact-of-sequestration-on-agents-in-the-field/2013/09/27/0af002d8-2791-11e3-b75d-5b7f66349852_story.html)

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- **A high-school boy over age 18 who engages in “sexting” photos of his naked, underage girlfriend to others via his cell phone (child pornography production and distribution)**

- **An 18 year-old high school senior who has consensual sex with his 14 year-old freshman girlfriend (this is sometimes defined as a rape, based on their age difference)**

- **A 22 year-old man who makes a home video of consensual sex with his 17 year-old girlfriend and downloads it to his computer, with his girlfriend’s knowledge and with no intent to share the video with others (child pornography production)[6]**

A 16 year old girl sexting photos to her boyfriend can recieve a really lengthy prison sentence. Under my plan these types of miscarriages of justice would never ever happen. As long as child pornography laws are on the books these are the types of things that will continue to happen.

**'Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech."**

A. This is also a freedom of speech issue. Congress isn't allowed to make any laws restricting the freedom of speech, neither is any other branch of the government. The judicial branch of the government has pretty much ruled that anything the general public views as obscene can be restricted.[7]

The whole point of the first amendmant is to protect material thaat is viewed as obscene by the majority of the population. If the majority of people and the government agreed with the material to start with the first amendmant wouldn't even be neccesary.

"If the First Amendment means anything," Justice Thurgood Marshall said in the 1969 majority decision, "it means that a State has no business telling a man, sitting alone in his own house, what books he may read or what films he may watch."[8]

I just wish Thurgood Marshall would've added something about child porn at the end of that to make my case easier.

If we're going to take freedom of speech serious we need to protect it in the instances where the material offends us the most. The things that offend us most should be the first things we stand up to defend. The battle for our freedom of speech starts and ends with child porn If we fight and win on this front than we win the freedom of speech battle on every front.

Legalizing child porn saves a bunch of kids from being sexually abused but even if it didn't. Even if it saved zero and was null in that area than it would still be worth fighting for based on freedom of speech principals.

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**JUSTICE**

**A.** A 2010 study carried out by Milton Diamond and his team at the University of Hawaii and published in the archives of sexual behavior show a sharp decline in child sex abuse since 1989 whn access to child pornography becam easier in Canada, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Finland, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Sweden, USA. This trend has also been seen in Denmark and Japan.[1]

The fact is that easier access to child porn will and already has significantly lowered the sexual abuse of children. As much as child pornography sucks it exists. It always has existed in one form or another and it always will. We can't eliminate it, but what we can do is use it in a way that helps at risk offendors get their rocks off in the privacy of their own home as opposed to going out and seeking children to harm.

Just to make this clear I'm not saying let's have a kid take one for the team so the rates of sexual abue go down. The F.B.I. already has the largest database of child porn on the planet. making this available to freely view for the public (discretion used to disguise the faces of known victims), would do a lot to curb actualy harm the underground child porn industry saving countless children. When you take in account that this being publicly viewable will help to solve some cold cases by pervs just by happenstance running into an image of somebody they know. The upside to making this database public could be incredible.

**B.** Contrary to popular bellief viewing or posessing child porn doesn't make you anymore likely to rape a child than anybody else.[2]Yet the people actually viewing child porn often times recieve tougher sentences than those who actually abuse children. People caught posessing child porn on average recieve 7 years in prison. [3] Compare this 7 years with the average of 4 years that people who actually sexually abuse children get. [4]

A full legalization of child porn like the one I advocate for would reverse this injustice. Under what I'm proposing if you rape a kid, you get a longer prison sentence than if you happen to come across some child porn on the internet but would not otherwise ever actually harm a child.

My opponents might argue that watching child porn actually helps support the child porn industry and keep it alive. However this is completely untrue.[5] It appears that people don't create child porn for commercial purposes but instead to document their crimes. Plus with me advocating for the FBI to make their database available to the public it actually offsets the vast, vast minority of child porn that may be for commercial reasons if that even exists.

**C.** As long as these child porn laws exist there will be law makers and courts expanding and interpreting these laws in whatever way they feel like to legislate there own morality and put innocent people in prison. Here is a list of things that you can do as a result of child porn laws that can land you in prison sometimes up to 20 years or more.

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Thank you Mikal and Bluesteel for being willing to debate this incredibly important topic.

I want to take this opportunity to address the voters before I launch into my arguments. I understand I'm arguing against the status quo, but I think the question voters need to ask themselves is; Will legalizing child porn save even 1 child from being sexually abused? If what I'm proposing saves just 1 child from losing their innocence, I'd say it's worth legalizing. When you factor in the life saving implications as well as the increased freedom and the savings in federal spending, you can see legalizing child porn is the lesser of 2 evils.

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the pedo stuff I defended

1. pedophilia should be legal. it was advocating for the FBI to open it's child porn database. the argument was that it would kill the child porn market and help identify previously unidentified victims.

2. I think I did a debate where I advocated for pedophiles to be persecuted less that way they could more easily come forward for help before they harmed others

These were positions that were in defense of children. I have an argument I presented in my obsidian. I will copy and paste it next.

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there is a difference between defending the stuff as devils advocate and actually believing it is okay. There is a certain ethical responsability to assume once we know somebody legitimately believes the stuff is okay though. They should have the freedom to advocate their position but the ethical responsibility falls on us not the person with the extreme belief. Our ethical responsibility is to try and help those individuals.

You can't seriously believe that debating an extreme position is the same as believing it and that the responsibility of the community should be the same for addressing each issue

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How the fuck is trolling as disabled the same thing as fucking children?

How even if it is wrong to troll that way, make it okay to fuck children?

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Fuxk you you evil piece of shit. I told you about one evil option and one non evil thing you can do and you are like "I will take the evil option" .

It tells me everything I need to know about you

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Bo topic should be off the table you fucking moron. I know you take a stance against jokes which is retarded but there comes a time when you actually see somebody who believes fucking children is okay and then maybe at that point you take a step back and say . "Hold on can I change this guy's mind and maybe save a child"

You can compare the legitimate belief that pedophilia is okay with people saying something edgy but it's stupid to make the comparison.

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When authorities try to ban child marriage by setting a minimum age. The ultra religious in Pakistan reject all attempts to set a minimum age. Does con sound like he may be a fundamentalist.

https://www.dw.com/en/why-underage-marriages-are-still-prevalent-in-pakistan/a-63860202

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He is from Pakistan where the latest statistics. Show that 20% of girls marry before 18. Child brides are a major problem in the region. We have somebody from that region where child fucking is so common who comes on this site to defend fucking children.

He could very well find himself in a situation where he is pressured to marry a child bride or where he chooses to and we have the opportunity to intervene to show him how wrong it is.

It's not okay and we are not debating a theory here for fun.

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Muhhamed is just a man. He isn't a God in their religion so when con says that it is okay for muhhamed to fuck 9 year olds he is also claiming it is okay for him to do it.

We have pro who defined things in such a way to cause con to lose the debate. We have a voting section where people can actually point t out how morally reprehensible it is but instead what happens is.

"Haha wylted hates pedophiles let me Pwn him by tying the debate"

It's a serious issue. I am not saying it is wrong for him to even make that stance in a debate but in his mind pedophilia is okay. He is a dealer to children and instead of using the vote to maybe get him to question the morality of the whole thing, the voting section instead is used to Pwn me.

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Pro also legitimately won against the guy as well so there is that

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