They aren't fake leftists. They really do want to cut the dicks off of children. They really did have the feds try to end free speech on social media. They really are turning to harm standard of care by bringing in socialized medicine
no it has more to do with the party than her. I do think we will essentially have a one party nation if Trump does not win.I can see the chess board and the moves the left are making and this is the last election before the demographics permanently favor the democrats and the left is holding the party hostage so even if moderates win, they still have to obey.
moral sense theory is more obscure, perhaps I will get into it more when your debate is done, but I think it goes a long way to prove objective morality exists. Your opponent doesn't need to prove God exists. He could claim that in fact God is not real, but that if God were real hypothetically speaking than objective morality would have to be real.
Can you give me the article for the following link, since it is paywalled please https://www.wsj.com/articles/unalienable-rights-and-u-s-foreign-policy-11562526448
I want to see how it relates to the following sentence "he Trump administration facilitated a dangerous precedent by pushing an agenda allowing for human rights of vulnerable groups to be effectively ignored due to protecting religious liberties."
"You can; but if you believe the cons (or pros) of the COVID shot, then you are inheritely following someone else's advice"
If you mean we live in a cooperative society and have to occasionally trust others to relay the science to us correctly than fine, but it is still ip to you to weigh the pros and cons. 2 people can have the same pros and cons and weigh them differently. For example you could take 90k now or go for a 1 in 10 chance to win 1 million dollars.
The mathematically correct choice is to take the million and yet most people will take the 90k as they have a different way to weigh the exact same pros and cons.
Also FYI, Joe Rogan is not activax. It's not a big deal if he is, but that is literally a libtard narrative that is a lie because he has kept an open mind towards vaccine skeptics .
"The balancing act would be the dude getting the vasectomy, but men don't want to do that because, "their body, their choice"."
This just hot retarded. We were talking about what happens after an unplanned pregnancy not what strategies can be used to avoid one.
"Pull out game isn't 100% effective."
I am aware it isn't 100% effective, I said I was fine assuming the increased risk.
"Then don't frame the debate as something you seemed to believe in. Like if I make the debate title, "Rape should be legal" and I pick pro (which I can play Devils Advocate for), that is off limits I think unless you clearly state that it's devils advocate (which you did not)."
No, because my opinion is completely irrelevant to the actual debate, and including it could bias the judges against me "even he doesn't believe his arguments".
In fact even in the forums my opinion is not important. I am not here to proselytizing. When I argue it is strictly to learn, even RVS I am looking to be proven wrong in that thread, it just hasn't occurred yet, and likely won't.
For example Double R has no clue the person advocating for a change in the status quo has the BOP and when I proved what was wrong with it he tried to shift the BOP to me by claiming it's possible to work without those problems so we should do it, without giving a realistic plan to achieve it the way he would like.
"But back to the subject at hand; lets say you have less testosterone than at least 50% of men (which for you, is more plausible than you would like to admit"
That's rude
"The uncomfterable truth is you have to follow someone wrt the COVID vaccine. I trust the doctors and their degrees over the podcasters and their vibes."
No you don't you can weigh the pros and cons yourself
"So not unconditionally for consensual sex, presumably because you believe the right to not get murdered outweighs the right to bodily autonomy.'
I think the child should have some amount of bodily autonomy as well so there needs to be a balancing act.
"This means one of the 2 things are true:"
Neither of those things are true. I don't want her to get pregnant so I pull out and if she gets pregnant that is on God and I am okay with that.
"Are you willing to surgically transition and be the trans woman in your kid's life and would your wife be fine with that?"
Are you so stupid as to not realize I am quite obviously arguing devil's advocate here
"1. Do you support the right of a woman to get an abortion?"
Only if they in collaboration with their doctor decide that continuing the pregnancy would harm the life or health of the mother, if the baby is going to be severely handicapped or the child is unlikely to survive the pregnancy. Also children should be allowed abortions as well. Those are the only exceptions I support
"2. Are you willing to get a vasectomy before you have sex again to prevent your girlfriend/wife from needing an abortion if you can store pre vasectomy sperm in a hospital freezer if you ever want kids again?"
No I am not. If I don't want her to get pregnant I will just stop fucking her. Besides she wants another baby anyway. If she didn't than she would take birth control and I would wear condoms and if it still happened anyway then we would just raise another child.
"That's just following the pack; it's not really alpha male. An alpha male thinks about if they should back a policy before they do. They don't just accept party narraitves like a beta does."
Are you kidding me. The people who rejected the pressure from the white house, the media, their family, their jobs to avoid the jab are followers?
"complains about women being 304s while prude shaming them for refusing to have sex with him, claims that men are providers while complaining about women being gold diggers, and so on. They are overweight while wanting their women to be very good looking."
Women like the 1st man; not the 2nd
1. First off, you know how I look. I have no issue getting laid, and I suspect you do. Ask yourself why?
Maybe it's because women just aren't attracted to men who would fuck trannies and would neuter themselves because they put pussy on a pedastool.
Secondly . I have never once bitched about gold diggers. If a guy cannot get laid that is 100% his fault. I have never shown entitlement towards vaginas. Stop projecting
"wants to force women to be in 9 months of pregnancy pain while unwilling to endure 3 days of vasectomy pain because, "my body, my choice","
Wrong. First wrong that it's 9 months of pain.
Second wrong because obviously murdering somebody Is off the table even if that person's existence inconveniences you. The exception would be if there is a serious threat to your health and well being.
"They don't judge women for having high body counts if the man has a higher body count (I think it's ok to require a virgin on your wedding day as long as you aren't a hypocrite here)."
They can have a high body count if they want. I just won't wife them up
". They want a woman that is either a trad wife and therefore accepts them being a gold digger, or doesn't want a gold digger, and therefore doesn't want a TRAD wife. They may care about their woman looking good, but only if they try and look good as well."
There nothing wrong with being a gold digger. We agree.
Also yes you have an obligation to look good if you are a male as well
"A masculine man that is not misogynistic goes to the gym and does 500 pushups in an hour while either being pro choice or getting a vasectomy before they have sex because they at least care more about 9 months of a woman's bodily autonomy than 3 days of their own"
Keep telling yourself that. Also I am fat and I can do 500 push-ups in an area.
1. Refusing the test after mandates is enough to be considered high test
2. I would make a very fuckable woman
3. "But there was this dating site for conservative men. Men had to pay; women didn't. The site got virtually no women on there. This is because young women (due to their emotional minds) are prone to stereotypes that many conservative men are misogynistic due to their strong support for entities like Andrew Tate"
Women love misogynistic men, they just don't give a shit about politics unless they are a leftard. And even leftard women's pussy gets wet when seeing a masculine male such as myself
"And what if you are in the bottom 50%? Be honest; "
Then I will embrace my destiny as a woman
"do you think my testosterone levels are in the top or bottom 50% for men? "
Bottom
you are willing to have sex with men as indicated by your statement in this thread admitting it so... https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/491546
you are also a democrat and higher testosterone is associated with conservatism https://www.openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/155441/version/V1/view
"Please provide evidence. What makes you think you are in the top 50%? You are fat; high T men are in good shape."
Bruh you seen my videos. I am a little fat, its an issue that needs dealt with but I am not starring on 600 pound life any time soon
What about transitioning half of men but still allowing ment to pursue heterosexual women, but maybe forcing them to be licensed to discourage that sort of thing. That way the option is still there for people not to be gay but it will be discouraged.
"Ask 100 dudes, "Hey; would you like to transition and lose your penis?" None of them would agree to that."
It doesn't matter. I don't feel like waking up early for work, but I do it because it's my duty
"You want half of men to transition? You 1st"
The ones we pick to trans will obviously be picked based on levels of testosterone. High test guys like me do not have to cut our dicks off. I am trying to be reasonable here
On the Trump debate. If I remember correctly the con side (trump) seemed to be debatingby making claims about democratic voters while pro was focused on the candidates, which means only one side was debating relevant stuff in regards to the resolution. Con also failed to offer rebuttals for pros positions, and ignored his arguments while pro did engage with the arguments of con in that debate
Also keep in mind that you can probably just skip to the last 10 to 15 minutes and get the impact analysis and tips. If I do a long vote I promise to give you the time stamp to the part where I give an overview
I was considering that. Just coming up with the conclusion first and then video my analysis instead of analyzing live. Of course I could do both things.
It's weird that you say non existence is more likely than existence of ANY FORM OF GOD, but the force your opponent to only argue in favor of the triomni god
Also here is the resolution as stated in the description:
"The Pro side will be arguing that AI is ruining the art of debate and that AI is making humanity stupid in general. And the con side will argue that using AI does not ruin debate, but it enhances it in some respect"
After you read that article you will realize that only an evil person can support socialized medicine. It would cause more death and more suffering
Actually that has already been debunked along with virtually every left-wing policy position
https://fee.org/articles/if-american-healthcare-kills-european-healthcare-kills-more/
He is debating who is most likely to win, not who is best fit to serve as president
They aren't fake leftists. They really do want to cut the dicks off of children. They really did have the feds try to end free speech on social media. They really are turning to harm standard of care by bringing in socialized medicine
no it has more to do with the party than her. I do think we will essentially have a one party nation if Trump does not win.I can see the chess board and the moves the left are making and this is the last election before the demographics permanently favor the democrats and the left is holding the party hostage so even if moderates win, they still have to obey.
moral sense theory is more obscure, perhaps I will get into it more when your debate is done, but I think it goes a long way to prove objective morality exists. Your opponent doesn't need to prove God exists. He could claim that in fact God is not real, but that if God were real hypothetically speaking than objective morality would have to be real.
They are going to have to cheat pretty hard for that to happen, but I wouldn't doubt it. If so it's the end of america being a 1st world nation
That's not what the debate is about though.
Do you know moral sense theory well enough to disprove it?
You do know that morality is objective right?
Pronis going to try to cherry pick Quran verses about peace and downplay what actually happens when Muslims make up the majority of a country.
Can you give me the article for the following link, since it is paywalled please https://www.wsj.com/articles/unalienable-rights-and-u-s-foreign-policy-11562526448
I want to see how it relates to the following sentence "he Trump administration facilitated a dangerous precedent by pushing an agenda allowing for human rights of vulnerable groups to be effectively ignored due to protecting religious liberties."
Are you seriously saying it is a subjective opinion that cultures can vary?
hold on so making factual claims that non western folks have different cultural beliefs than westerners is racist? That is an odd thing to say
please stop calling me racist, it is rude.
Nice thanks
I didn't even get a warning time was running out WTF
"You can; but if you believe the cons (or pros) of the COVID shot, then you are inheritely following someone else's advice"
If you mean we live in a cooperative society and have to occasionally trust others to relay the science to us correctly than fine, but it is still ip to you to weigh the pros and cons. 2 people can have the same pros and cons and weigh them differently. For example you could take 90k now or go for a 1 in 10 chance to win 1 million dollars.
The mathematically correct choice is to take the million and yet most people will take the 90k as they have a different way to weigh the exact same pros and cons.
Also FYI, Joe Rogan is not activax. It's not a big deal if he is, but that is literally a libtard narrative that is a lie because he has kept an open mind towards vaccine skeptics .
"The balancing act would be the dude getting the vasectomy, but men don't want to do that because, "their body, their choice"."
This just hot retarded. We were talking about what happens after an unplanned pregnancy not what strategies can be used to avoid one.
"Pull out game isn't 100% effective."
I am aware it isn't 100% effective, I said I was fine assuming the increased risk.
"Then don't frame the debate as something you seemed to believe in. Like if I make the debate title, "Rape should be legal" and I pick pro (which I can play Devils Advocate for), that is off limits I think unless you clearly state that it's devils advocate (which you did not)."
No, because my opinion is completely irrelevant to the actual debate, and including it could bias the judges against me "even he doesn't believe his arguments".
In fact even in the forums my opinion is not important. I am not here to proselytizing. When I argue it is strictly to learn, even RVS I am looking to be proven wrong in that thread, it just hasn't occurred yet, and likely won't.
For example Double R has no clue the person advocating for a change in the status quo has the BOP and when I proved what was wrong with it he tried to shift the BOP to me by claiming it's possible to work without those problems so we should do it, without giving a realistic plan to achieve it the way he would like.
This site is not for proselytizing
"But back to the subject at hand; lets say you have less testosterone than at least 50% of men (which for you, is more plausible than you would like to admit"
That's rude
"The uncomfterable truth is you have to follow someone wrt the COVID vaccine. I trust the doctors and their degrees over the podcasters and their vibes."
No you don't you can weigh the pros and cons yourself
"So not unconditionally for consensual sex, presumably because you believe the right to not get murdered outweighs the right to bodily autonomy.'
I think the child should have some amount of bodily autonomy as well so there needs to be a balancing act.
"This means one of the 2 things are true:"
Neither of those things are true. I don't want her to get pregnant so I pull out and if she gets pregnant that is on God and I am okay with that.
"Are you willing to surgically transition and be the trans woman in your kid's life and would your wife be fine with that?"
Are you so stupid as to not realize I am quite obviously arguing devil's advocate here
Doesn't explain spelling and grammar
"1. Do you support the right of a woman to get an abortion?"
Only if they in collaboration with their doctor decide that continuing the pregnancy would harm the life or health of the mother, if the baby is going to be severely handicapped or the child is unlikely to survive the pregnancy. Also children should be allowed abortions as well. Those are the only exceptions I support
"2. Are you willing to get a vasectomy before you have sex again to prevent your girlfriend/wife from needing an abortion if you can store pre vasectomy sperm in a hospital freezer if you ever want kids again?"
No I am not. If I don't want her to get pregnant I will just stop fucking her. Besides she wants another baby anyway. If she didn't than she would take birth control and I would wear condoms and if it still happened anyway then we would just raise another child.
"That's just following the pack; it's not really alpha male. An alpha male thinks about if they should back a policy before they do. They don't just accept party narraitves like a beta does."
Are you kidding me. The people who rejected the pressure from the white house, the media, their family, their jobs to avoid the jab are followers?
"complains about women being 304s while prude shaming them for refusing to have sex with him, claims that men are providers while complaining about women being gold diggers, and so on. They are overweight while wanting their women to be very good looking."
Women like the 1st man; not the 2nd
1. First off, you know how I look. I have no issue getting laid, and I suspect you do. Ask yourself why?
Maybe it's because women just aren't attracted to men who would fuck trannies and would neuter themselves because they put pussy on a pedastool.
Secondly . I have never once bitched about gold diggers. If a guy cannot get laid that is 100% his fault. I have never shown entitlement towards vaginas. Stop projecting
"wants to force women to be in 9 months of pregnancy pain while unwilling to endure 3 days of vasectomy pain because, "my body, my choice","
Wrong. First wrong that it's 9 months of pain.
Second wrong because obviously murdering somebody Is off the table even if that person's existence inconveniences you. The exception would be if there is a serious threat to your health and well being.
"They don't judge women for having high body counts if the man has a higher body count (I think it's ok to require a virgin on your wedding day as long as you aren't a hypocrite here)."
They can have a high body count if they want. I just won't wife them up
". They want a woman that is either a trad wife and therefore accepts them being a gold digger, or doesn't want a gold digger, and therefore doesn't want a TRAD wife. They may care about their woman looking good, but only if they try and look good as well."
There nothing wrong with being a gold digger. We agree.
Also yes you have an obligation to look good if you are a male as well
"A masculine man that is not misogynistic goes to the gym and does 500 pushups in an hour while either being pro choice or getting a vasectomy before they have sex because they at least care more about 9 months of a woman's bodily autonomy than 3 days of their own"
Keep telling yourself that. Also I am fat and I can do 500 push-ups in an area.
I like lifting I just also like eating
"Why? Is it because it's what the conservative camp tried to do?"
Yes
"Are you transgender or something? Because no cisgender dude would make a statement like that."
I actually no what straight men like because i am not a faggot so fucking straight men should cum easy
That is a lot to respond to but some quick things
1. Refusing the test after mandates is enough to be considered high test
2. I would make a very fuckable woman
3. "But there was this dating site for conservative men. Men had to pay; women didn't. The site got virtually no women on there. This is because young women (due to their emotional minds) are prone to stereotypes that many conservative men are misogynistic due to their strong support for entities like Andrew Tate"
Women love misogynistic men, they just don't give a shit about politics unless they are a leftard. And even leftard women's pussy gets wet when seeing a masculine male such as myself
So if anything, we need more Hitler songs?
con won this hands down
"How can you tell testosterone levels?"
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diagnostics/24215-testosterone-test
"And what if you are in the bottom 50%? Be honest; "
Then I will embrace my destiny as a woman
"do you think my testosterone levels are in the top or bottom 50% for men? "
Bottom
you are willing to have sex with men as indicated by your statement in this thread admitting it so... https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/491546
you are also a democrat and higher testosterone is associated with conservatism https://www.openicpsr.org/openicpsr/project/155441/version/V1/view
"Please provide evidence. What makes you think you are in the top 50%? You are fat; high T men are in good shape."
Bruh you seen my videos. I am a little fat, its an issue that needs dealt with but I am not starring on 600 pound life any time soon
What about transitioning half of men but still allowing ment to pursue heterosexual women, but maybe forcing them to be licensed to discourage that sort of thing. That way the option is still there for people not to be gay but it will be discouraged.
I am starting to think 5 rounds of Hitler songs was excessive
"Ask 100 dudes, "Hey; would you like to transition and lose your penis?" None of them would agree to that."
It doesn't matter. I don't feel like waking up early for work, but I do it because it's my duty
"You want half of men to transition? You 1st"
The ones we pick to trans will obviously be picked based on levels of testosterone. High test guys like me do not have to cut our dicks off. I am trying to be reasonable here
Yes definitel
Rule one bitch
I am running a background check on my lawn mantainance guy right now to sew if Beat.korea is right
He was literally hung on the cross for a crime so nobody will take this
I agree welcome to dart (depending on whether you are christian or not)
I am trying not to read it, because I don't want to spoil it for myself when I go to vote.
I just knew when I saw that statement I wanted to see what you referring to as modern day slavery and I was not disappointed
I have a question about your citations.
which one of these citations are citation 11 for round 1.
11. https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/444m6e/south-park-stu-dent-ath-o-leets
or
11. https://www.npr.org/2022/08/18/1111344810/abortion-ban-states-social-safety-net-health-outcomes
you forgot to state if you are pro or con
Give me a 500 word summary of your argument in my PM and I will go advertise this debate for you, and link you towards the ad.
That's half of debates. Just agreeing to definitions to even figure out if you even disagree.
On the Trump debate. If I remember correctly the con side (trump) seemed to be debatingby making claims about democratic voters while pro was focused on the candidates, which means only one side was debating relevant stuff in regards to the resolution. Con also failed to offer rebuttals for pros positions, and ignored his arguments while pro did engage with the arguments of con in that debate
Also keep in mind that you can probably just skip to the last 10 to 15 minutes and get the impact analysis and tips. If I do a long vote I promise to give you the time stamp to the part where I give an overview
I was considering that. Just coming up with the conclusion first and then video my analysis instead of analyzing live. Of course I could do both things.
Maybe I vote on this tonight. It appears to be the only debate in the voting phase worth reading at the moment.
It's weird that you say non existence is more likely than existence of ANY FORM OF GOD, but the force your opponent to only argue in favor of the triomni god
Also here is the resolution as stated in the description:
"The Pro side will be arguing that AI is ruining the art of debate and that AI is making humanity stupid in general. And the con side will argue that using AI does not ruin debate, but it enhances it in some respect"
"
ChatGTP is on the Google play store and is used the same way as chat GPT.
It is unethical to help you so this is not what I am doing