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@PREZ-HILTON
I finished my lab final yesterday. Knocked out the topics before the rest come up.
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Sir.Lancelot
@YouFound_Lxam
@AustinL0926
ROUND TWO IS NOT OFFICIALLY OVER UNTIL THE VOTING PERIOD FOR AUSTIN AND LXAM'S DEBATE IS DONE.
However, let's get onto topics for round three, the round before the final!
BRACKETS:
BRACKETS:
AustinL0926 vs. PREZ-HILTON
YouFound_Lxam vs. Sir.Lancelot
Topic Theme: Women's Issues
YouFound_Lxam vs. Sir.Lancelot
Topic Theme: Women's Issues
Twenty Potential Topics:
- The Nineteenth Amendment Should be Abolished
- On Balance, Feminism as a Whole has Done More Harm than Good
- On Balance, a Rape Culture Exists in Western Developed Countries
- On Balance, the Sexual Liberation of Women Was a Good Thing
- On Balance, Bringing Women into the Work Force was a Good Thing
- Gender Roles Exist and Should be Observed
- On Balance, Women Who Work Should Not Have Kids
- On Balance, Access to Contraceptives Was a Good Thing
- Late-Term Abortion Should be Legal
- On Balance, Women are Worse in Leadership Roles Compared to Men
- On Balance, an Ethical Patriarchy is More Desirable to Alternatives
- On Balance, Abolition of Arranged Marriage Was a Good Thing
- On Balance, Women Should Not Seek Higher Education
- On Balance, Non-Virgin Brides are Undesirable
- No-Fault Divorce Should be Abolished
- On Balance, Child Support Should be Abolished
- On Balance, Single-Motherhood is Morally Wrong
- On Balance, Women are Meant to be Submissive to Men
- On Balance, Marriage is Outdated and Should be Abolished
- Hypergamy Exists and is Common Among Women
Definitions Across Topics: (Use the Definitions that Apply to the Topic you Choose)
- Abolished: Scrapped, destroyed, changed to where it does not exist, no longer having influence on law and/or society.
- Child Support: The practice of providing monetary compensation to an ex-spouse who has custody of children after a divorce and/or separation.
- Ethical: Seeking a moral standard, tending towards the desire for goodness.
- Feminism: Women's movements across time, including first-wave, second-wave, third-wave, and modern feminism.
- Gender Roles: The idea that men and women are implicitly different and thus serve different roles and functions within a family.
- Higher Education: Education past the high-school level; particularly in the trade and collegiate scholarship area.
- Hypergamy: The concept asserting women seek the highest value male they can find; often leaving and/or cheating on their current partner for a potential better mate.
- Late-Term Abortion: Abortion after the woman knows she is pregnant and has allowed the baby to develop to at least the second trimester.
- No-Fault Divorce: The notion of law which allows divorce without the justification of proper cause, allowing for separation based on preference without the need for a justifiable reason to end the marriage outside of personal grievances. Fault for divorce is no longer needed to be obtained, thus expanding divorce past reasons such as abuse, infidelity, and other extreme cases.
- On Balance: On average, in most cases, more often than not.
- Patriarchy: A system where men dominate socially and economically over women.
- Rape Culture: Social implications and trends towards the idea that rape is either acceptable, natural, or it is the victims' fault for the action; the normalization of rape.
- Sexual Liberation: Movement in the 20th century pertaining to the destruction of female preference for chastity; encouraging sexual activities before marriage, often with partners that may not desire commitment.
- Western Developed Countries: Countries pertaining to the United States, Canada, and Western Europe.
You guys have a week to agree to a topic! Good luck!
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@PREZ-HILTON
I'll be giving out new topics either today or tomorrow. I wanna give the other debate some more voting time.
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Sir.Lancelot
@YouFound_Lxam
@AustinL0926
Round One Results are In:
AustinL0926 vs Sir.Lancelot | Winner: AustinL0926 4-0
PREZ-HILTON vs YouFound_Lxam | Winner: PREZ-HILTON due to Forfeiture by Lxam 4-0
Remember, round two has already started. The match ups can be found through the challonge link.
Fifteen Topics:
The current seedings are:
PREZ-HILTON vs Sir.Lancelot
YouFound_Lxam vs AustinL0926
One debate has already started:
AustinL0926 vs Sir.Lancelot | Winner: AustinL0926 4-0
PREZ-HILTON vs YouFound_Lxam | Winner: PREZ-HILTON due to Forfeiture by Lxam 4-0
Remember, round two has already started. The match ups can be found through the challonge link.
You can also check your current standings here! People who are a no-show will get an automatic loss and zero points. If your opponent is not cooperative, let me know so I can reach out to them and/or award you the win automatically.
The topics for the debates were already listed above. To reiterate:
- The Invasion of Ukraine (2022) was Justified
- The German Invasion of Poland (1939) was Justified
- Operation Barbarossa was Justified
- The Allies were Justified in Declaring War on the European Axis Members
- The Bombing of Pearl Harbor was Justified
- America was Correct to Involve Itself in the Korean War
- On Balance, the World is Better Off Due to America Winning the Cold War
- Napoleon's Conquest was Justified
- The American Revolution was Justified
- The Nationalists were Justified in Beginning the Civil War in Spain (1936)
- The German Invasion of Poland (1939) was Justified
- Operation Barbarossa was Justified
- The Allies were Justified in Declaring War on the European Axis Members
- The Bombing of Pearl Harbor was Justified
- America was Correct to Involve Itself in the Korean War
- On Balance, the World is Better Off Due to America Winning the Cold War
- Napoleon's Conquest was Justified
- The American Revolution was Justified
- The Nationalists were Justified in Beginning the Civil War in Spain (1936)
- The Americans were Justified With the War in Iraq (2003)
- Germany was Justified in Declaring War on Serbia (1914)
- The Greater East-Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere was a Net-Good for Asia
- Large-Scale War to Aid Chiang Kai-Shek Should Have Happened After WW2
- Patton's Plan to Team up With the Remnants of Nazi Germany to Take on the Soviet Union Should Have Been Enacted
PREZ-HILTON vs Sir.Lancelot
YouFound_Lxam vs AustinL0926
One debate has already started:
https://www.debateart.com/debates/4391-%5Bwdt%5D-on-balance-the-german-invasion-of-poland-1939-was-justified
LET'S DO THIS GUYS! GOOD LUCK ON ROUND 2!
LET'S DO THIS GUYS! GOOD LUCK ON ROUND 2!
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@YouFound_Lxam
@AustinL0926
Alright! You guys have 48 hours to negotiate a topic. If one is unresponsive, let me know!
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@AustinL0926
It will be after voting concludes. Prez just suggested we get topic selection out of the way.
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Sir.Lancelot
@YouFound_Lxam
@AustinL0926
Screw it, I will do it now!
The next topic will be war and its surrounding elements!
Fifteen Topics:
- The Invasion of Ukraine (2022) was Justified
- The German Invasion of Poland (1939) was Justified
- Operation Barbarossa was Justified
- The Allies were Justified in Declaring War on the European Axis Members
- The Bombing of Pearl Harbor was Justified
- America was Correct to Involve Itself in the Korean War
- On Balance, the World is Better Off Due to America Winning the Cold War
- Napoleon's Conquest was Justified
- The American Revolution was Justified
- The Nationalists were Justified in Beginning the Civil War in Spain (1936)
The next topic will be war and its surrounding elements!
Fifteen Topics:
- The Invasion of Ukraine (2022) was Justified
- The German Invasion of Poland (1939) was Justified
- Operation Barbarossa was Justified
- The Allies were Justified in Declaring War on the European Axis Members
- The Bombing of Pearl Harbor was Justified
- America was Correct to Involve Itself in the Korean War
- On Balance, the World is Better Off Due to America Winning the Cold War
- Napoleon's Conquest was Justified
- The American Revolution was Justified
- The Nationalists were Justified in Beginning the Civil War in Spain (1936)
- The Americans were Justified With the War in Iraq (2003)
- Germany was Justified in Declaring War on Serbia (1914)
- The Greater East-Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere was a Net-Good for Asia
- Large-Scale War to Aid Chiang Kai-Shek Should Have Happened After WW2
- Patton's Plan to Team up With the Remnants of Nazi Germany to Take on the Soviet Union Should Have Been Enacted
If none of these topics work for you, feel free to suggest additional topics to go with the prompt. If warfare isn't really your thing, feel free to ask for a more political prompt.
The definitions the must be standardized are the following:
Justified: having, done for, or marked by a good or legitimate reason; more preferable than not doing said action.
Brackets:
AustinL0926 vs. YouFound_Lxam
PREZ-HILTON vs Sir.Lancelot
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@PREZ-HILTON
Alright! I will start writing them out and will have them ready by tomorrow.
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To help the site grow, I will vote on any debates requested of me in this thread if it's interesting. Just tag me here with the link and I'll let you know if I will put it on the queue of debates to be judged.
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Sir.Lancelot
@YouFound_Lxam
@AustinL0926
UPDATE:
Prez and YouFound_Lxam has started his debate here:
Austin and Lancelot has their debate setting up with confirmation of the judges. 1/4 have accepted.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Each debater gets two judges, so you are free to nominate someone else too
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@YouFound_Lxam
Remember, if y'all can't find a good topic, just suggest one you both wanna do and I'll either yay or nay it.
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@oromagi
You'd once again be surprised. I'm not one myself, but I've met some staunch monarchists that shilled hard for feudalism and had backing for it. It has a place to be argued, although its definitely the black sheep of the topics.
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@oromagi
You'd be surprised, I've seen good arguments on both sides for each of these topics.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Anarchy is a form of libertarianism. I kept it intentionally vague so people could insert their own thoughts and ideologies.
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@PREZ-HILTON
On balance, authoritarianism works better than libertarianismWorks better at what?
Overall, as a method of governance.
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@Sir.Lancelot
@AustinL0926
AustinL0926 vs. Sir.Lancelot
I will ping him here for you!
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Sir.Lancelot
@YouFound_Lxam
@AustinL0926
Made another post and mentioned y'all in it, we are starting!
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Sir.Lancelot
@YouFound_Lxam
@AustinL0926
Here we begin guys, read the post!
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The tournament has begun! To start, let's take a look at our challengers for this tournament!
Sir.Lancelot
PREZ-HILTON
AustinL0926
YouFound_Lxam
These brave souls will face off against one another in this awesome tournament! For a reminder of the overall rules, refer to my profile to see the other thread related to debate sign ups. This thread will be used for debaters to coordinate their matches. Alternatively, feel free to join the unofficial DART server started by Sir.Lancelot below!
Rules for each debate challenge:
RULES:
- Topics for the debates will be given with each round of the tourney. Topics will include social, political, and religious issues. Each round will have a theme that the potential topics will be written around. If the two people paired against one another cannot agree on a topic, arbitration will be carried out by me.
- Debates can be 3-4 rounds, with a 10,000 maximum character limit. You are free to use a link-shortening service and provide sources from a Google doc to meet come under the threshold.
- There will be 4 judges per debate, 2 nominated from each person. You can nominate me to judge. However, it is not required. Argument times will be three days to allow for adequate research. Voting period will be set to one week.
- Not accepting a debate challenge from your opponent after you agree on a topic and judges, or a failure to communicate with your opponent in a timely manner will lead to an automatic loss. This can be voided with adequate reasoning.
- You are allowed to concede the debate at any time for an automatic loss.
- You can nominate judges from other people in the tourney. However, any proven collusion or alleged collusion with probable cause will result in being kicked from the tournament.
- Additional rules can be provided at my discretion when needed.
An amendment was made to the character limit as per the request of PREZ-HILTON.
Brackets for the tourney will be found here: https://challonge.com/3kwkgwdr
Remember, this is a round robin format! This is not an elimination tourney! After the round robin matches (of which there are three), the top two debaters will clash in the final!
For round 1, we have:
AustinL0926 vs. Sir.Lancelot
PREZ-HILTON vs. YouFound_Lxam
Now, for the topic theme and the ten potential topics for this round.
This first round will focus on politics, particularly politics concerning governance and economics.
Your ten potential topics for the debate in round 1 are:
- On balance, communism works better than capitalism
- On balance, fascism works better than capitalism
- Laissez-Faire capitalism is more efficient than social democracy
- On balance, authoritarianism works better than libertarianism
- On balance, importing labor is preferred for a developed economy
- The government should own the central bank
- On balance, government bail-outs do more harm than good
- On balance, command economies are superior to market economies
- On balance, feudalism would be a preferential alternative to capitalism
- Wealthy businesses in key industries should be nationalized
When creating the debate, please put [WDT] in the title to confirm that the debate is part of the tourney, either at the beginning or the end. If none of the topics are preferable to the debaters, new topics can be suggested with the approval of the creator of the tournament.
All debaters have 72 hours from the time this forum post is sent to begin the debate. If they cannot begin in the allotted time, they must inform the tournament creator that extra time will be needed. If they fail to do that, both will suffer an automatic loss.
Feel free to mention me here or message me if any issues pop up. Ping me here with the link of your debate when it is created.
Good luck! Have fun, and debate well!
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@YouFound_Lxam
Just need your approval now!
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Sir.Lancelot
@YouFound_Lxam
@AustinL0926
UPDATE: I will reduce the max characters to 10,000 characters. Everyone fine with this? If so, our lovely president will join and we can begin.
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@Bella3sp
That's alright, you're welcome for the invite!
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@blamonkey
@That2User
Would either of you be interested? We need one more person.
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@Bella3sp
Gotcha. I have the rules with the first post on this thread. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. The topics will be given from a pool. I will give around 5-6 topics you can choose from. If you and your partner cannot agree, I can arbitrate and make an exception. The topics will be geared around a subject. For example, say that the subject was on, just to make it absurd for the example, pickles. Well, some topics may be things like "Pickles are the best snack to exist" or "The sodium found in pickles are nothing to be concerned about" or "Pickles are better when eaten whole instead of sliced". The participants would then select which topic and side they wanna be on, create the debate, nominate the judges, and get it started.
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@Bella3sp
You're good at debating from what I see, would you be interested?
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@hey-yo
That's fine man, thanks for the response!
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@Best.Korea
That's fine man. If this goes well, I will do another tourney so perhaps next time!
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@whiteflame
@Best.Korea
@Decisively_Conservatist
@hey-yo
@the_viper
Thanks whiteflame! Any of you guys interested?
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@whiteflame
Heyo, do you know of any person who would wanna join so we can get this started?
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@YouFound_Lxam
Awesome!
1. Sir.Lancelot
2. AustinL0926
3. YouFound_Lxam
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ONE SLOT LEFT
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@DavidAZ
That's fine, hopefully you'll enjoy spectating if we can get this off the ground. Feel free to mention anyone here that you'd think would like to participate.
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@That2User
@Skipper_Sr
@DavidAZ
Perhaps you guys would be interested as well?
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@Skipper_Sr
Gotcha, thanks. Then the two slots are still open.
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@Sir.Lancelot
I'd also like for them to comment on this thread so I know they themselves wanna be in.
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@Sir.Lancelot
But is brother d Thomas going to actually debate or troll?
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@AustinL0926
Gotcha!
1. Sir.Lancelot
2. AustinL0926
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@Intelligence_06
@Sir.Lancelot
@AustinL0926
Tagging you guys, Lancelot already says he wants in on discord so I will add him.
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Under the advice of @Sir.Lancelot I have decided to start up the tournament now since I did not know that the other would take so long. Here are the guidelines for the tournament:
RULES:
- Topics for the debates will be given with each round of the tourney. Topics will include social, political, and religious issues. Each round will have a theme that the potential topics will be written around. If the two people paired against one another cannot agree on a topic, arbitration will be carried out by me.
- Debates can be 3-4 rounds, with a 20,000 maximum character limit. You are free to use a link-shortening service and provide sources from a Google doc to meet come under the threshold.
- There will be 4 judges per debate, 2 nominated from each person. You can nominate me to judge. However, it is not required. Argument times will be three days to allow for adequate research. Voting period will be set to one week.
- Not accepting a debate challenge from your opponent after you agree on a topic and judges, or a failure to communicate with your opponent in a timely manner will lead to an automatic loss. This can be voided with adequate reasoning.
- You are allowed to concede the debate at any time for an automatic loss.
- You can nominate judges from other people in the tourney. However, any proven collusion or alleged collusion with probable cause will result in being kicked from the tournament.
- Additional rules can be provided at my discretion when needed.
Tournament Format:
- There will be a total of 4 debaters in this tournament. If you cannot make it through the totality of the tourney, you are free to nominate a substitute to take your place. If you cannot nominate a sub in an appropriate amount of time, you will automatically lose the debate. You cannot nominate a sub in the knock-out round phase of the tournament.
- The tournament will begin as a round-robin. This means that everyone will debate against each opponent once. After that, the top 2 debaters will the best record will proceed to a knock-out round. The winner of the knockout round wins the tournament.
- Brackets will be randomly determined and seeded.
- If this goes well, I will start a bigger tournament in the future.
Cheers! Good luck to every debater!
1. Sir.Lancelot
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Thinking of starting a tournament after this one concludes, organized by me. It would be an initial round robin with the best going for a knock-out style tourney. Topics would be created in a pool by me, with each debater giving their stance on an issue before the tourney begins. Afterwards, debates would happen based on a random draw. I would love to put time into it. Posting this to see how much interest people would have.
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@Stephen
It's a live debating platform on YouTube so I doubt they'd host debates through the site but I could always ask
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Debate is canceled since he kept ghosting me about the topic. Can provide screenshots to anyone interested through DMs
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UPDATE!
Your boy, if this debate goes through, will be going against Aron Ra.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
BROTHER D THOMAS
Oh holy preacher of God, while your knowledge of scripture is pronounced and your knowledge unrivaled (i am not worthy), you are mistaken. Creationism is:
Creationism is the religious belief that nature, and aspects such as the universe, Earth, life, and humans, originated with supernatural acts of divine creation.[1][2] In its broadest sense, creationism includes a continuum of religious views,[3][4] which vary in their acceptance or rejection of scientific explanations such as evolution that describe the origin and development of natural phenomena.[5][6
While MW defines it as:
a doctrine or theory holding that matter, the various forms of life, and the world were created by God out of nothing and usually in the way described in Genesis
It does not necessarily include the genesis account, even by the MW dictionary, oh great preacher. I wish to learn more from your biblically accurate rhetoric. How will the demonic atheists (ew) attack creationism? Let's hope they are not both an atheist (blah) and a woman (yuck) or else I'll need to be like Jesus and take out my whip, and they're the people in the temple, HIIIIYAAAHHHH!
How would one care for a biblically accurate second class (and may God forgive me for uttering this phrase) woman of a wife while she is ill? I am assuming I should give her holy chicken noodle soup and allow for less mating rituals than normal. Your wisdom is appreciated, dear preacher.
Your sheep,
Weaver
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@DavidAZ
Huh, thank you! You've brought up some really could points I may bring up and will look into.
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