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TO EVERYONE
I'm black, and I'm #4, and I'm also the youngest person in the top 10 (maybe even the top 20). Only reason I didn't say anything before is because I was trying to do that debate with Wylted on black people XD and I didn't think he'd accept if he knew I was black LOL
You're racist, Wylted, and sexist. Shame on you
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@bsh1
@Alec
Question, why do y'all want kids? I'm super young, lol, way younger than y'all, but I don't understand why anyone really wants kids. I always think it's too much of a responsibility and I don't want to take care of one or more other people for 18+ years. Or maybe that's just because I'm a kid
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@oromagi
Why was I not pinged? :'( I like poetry
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@ILikePie5
Yeah I get that
I’m gonna read up on everyone’s else’s so far including noobs and get back to y’all
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Ok, so I know I've been throwing around theories here about people, I and I was wrong once, but I would like to say who I think the third scum could possibly be...
bsh1
Why? Well, as I said, I used to play Secret Hitler, and usually, the person who is the least suspicious and the most helpful is Hitler, and that person in my opinion has been bsh.
He's avoided any strong claims for or against anybody, and has avoided conflict pretty neatly, and I'd guess he was the grandfather is he is mafia
Now, that doesn't mean we should lynch him, because that would be dumb, since he's done nothing to truly suggest being mafia, but I suggest we keep an eye on him though...
Sorry if it looks like I'm flip flopping a lot lol but that's just my true thoughts
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@David
I was wondering what happened to you lol, where did you go and why?
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@David
Ohhhhhhhhh, so you can leave when we're in the middle of a debate, but you can come back right when I'm having fun in a forum post and end it?
I SEE HOW IT IS NOW
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Oh wait a minute it doesn't protect against lynches RIPPPPPPPPPPPP
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@Discipulus_Didicit
If I'm wrong then I sincerely apologize my dude, I'm already nervous LOL because maybe I made the wrong decision :'(
But you did say you have the bullet protector role which is cool so maybe not
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@warren42
Don't fall for Disc's schemes :( plssssssssssssssssssssssssssss I would actually cry if that worked XD
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@Discipulus_Didicit
THAT IS TOO TRUE, it's better if you user the swipe typing thoughThe mobile version of this site has seriously lost the plot on how typing works.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Yeah, you have 4 votes and votes can't be placed after 6 my dude
You're acting like it's personal but it's not lol, I said in my post that I could be reading into it too much, if I'm wrong then that's on me but I had to make a decision either way
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@Discipulus_Didicit
My point was that it was a mistake on your part because you forgot that y'all discussed it in your chat instead of in here
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@warren42
Make sure you change my vote before you're done, Disc has 4 votes now and should be the one getting lynched...
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@ILikePie5
I said it made me off suspicious of grey, not that he was scum, you can stop putting words into my mouth now lol
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Ongoing
Sign-ups
warren42 (Choose the Theme)
In the Hopper
DD (Open Setup Bastard Mafia, 9 players)
ILikePie5 (Civil War Generals Mafia)
Bsh1
Mharman (Pizza Mafia)
Wylted (hymen)
SupaDudz (Big Mouth Mafia, Rappers Mafia, Chicago Landmarks Mafia)
Speedrace (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
On Hold
Budda, Virt, Breaking, lunatic
Do I put myself into Sign-ups or the hopper?
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Away from all that it had once become
They all cried for my help, but I stood there numb
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@bsh1
@Mharman
CRAZY THEORY THAT I THINK PROVES THE WHOLE THING
OK OK OK I think I might have it figured out
This might be me reading into it too much XD but I think I have it LOL, it was just a sad mistake on scum's part if I'm correct
So I was investigating Disc because people suspect him for some reason, and I noticed a post he made a looooooooooooooooooooooong time ago...
Post #9
VTL clubDid we not agree on this yesterday?
But the thing was, NO ONE had mentioned lynching Club up until that point. They were slightly mad at him for the VTNL'ing, but no one said they should lynch him, NO ONE even directly accused him of being scum
So why would Disc say that they agreed to lynch Club when they didn't?
UNLESS THEY DID AGREE TO DO IT IN THE MAFIA CHAT
That means that Disc is mafia and that all mafia agreed in their private chat to lynch Club, and then Disc made the mistake of accidentally saying that in his chat
Another thing is that Disc made a post explaining why he thought Club was scum...
Post #299
Rereading the DP. I am more convinced now that mharm and club are scum together. Besides what I have already pointed out regarding their shenanigans last DP there is the way club claimed and the way Mharman responded to it this DP.Don't focus too much on the mathematics of the claim itself, look at the way it all happened.Club comes in immediately after someone mentions something about a poison doctor and character claims. Notice he did not at the time and as far as I know still has not role claimed, yet Mharman immediately jumps on it and tells everyone that this means club is a poison doctor because Chansey is a doctor Pokemon. Again club did not claim any role at that time and in fact when I asked him to clarify his claim he was intentionally obtuse (posts 57 and 58).Feels like what happened is mharm told club to claim Chansey/poison doc right after oros post and club flubbed it by only claiming Chansey. To everyone else that looked at clubs post it was not clear that he was claiming doc at all (posts 39 and 57) so why was it immediately so clear to mharm? Because he was not going off of clubs confusing stream of consciousness posts, he was going off of what he knew he told club to claim.I am convinced that these are two of our scum and I think after we kill these two we just need to reread the DPs to find the third one easily. I sense a town win coming up.
But Disc voted for Club WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY before anything went down between Mharman and Club
If my mafia chat theory is true, that means that Pie is veeeeeeeery likely mafia as well, simply because BOTH HE AND DISC HAVE BEEN TARGETING CLUB SINCE THE BEGINNING OF DP2
Think about it, they both started going against Club at about the same time, and they BOTH voted for him FIRST before anyone laid down evidence for doing it, they only said their reasons AFTER they voted
I have an interesting theory as to who the third mafia is as well...but I need allies right now
Now, the final question:
Lynch Disc or Pie?
I think the answer is Disc. The reason why is because Pie didn't start hammering Club until much later after Disc started it. In fact, after Disc originally randomly went against Club, GreyParrot was the next person to go for Club as well. Makes me suspicious of grey...but anyway, I think Disc is the safer and more logical option here
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@ILikePie5
On the website, secrethitler.io lol
It's really fun, it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay shorter than these games, like 10-30 mins usually, but it's sneaky and it's a lot of fun, especially if you're actually hitler, the website can get laggy though
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@bsh1
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@WaterPhoenix
EXTREMELY IMPORTANT QUESTION
Does mafia have its own chat to talk to each other? Is that a real thing on here??? This could literally crack the case wide open right now
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Now Water, me, Grey, and Wylted have all claimed Vanilla town...somebody between Water and Grey is lying
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@WaterPhoenix
Suspicious play is evidence for your hunches...lol
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@WaterPhoenix
You can only lynch off of hunches... There's literally no other way to do it lol
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@Greyparrot
I haven't looked at Disc just yet so I'm not sure about him, he definitely shouldn't be lynched though
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@Pinkfreud08
Yeah, I think that letting the kids go out and hang out with other kids would be the optimal option, unfortunately I never got that option
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They once were terrified, every time I looked into their eyes
Villagers would cheer my way, for a hero I was, that's what they'd say
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@ILikePie5
@Mharman
A.) Idgaf if Club is town or not. He’s useless to town either way and a burden upon us. And as I said, stupidity is a huge pet peeve of mine - I mentally can’t help it but I’m trying to.
If that had been your only reason for going fo him, I would understand. But you've flip-flopped between various reasons too many times.
B.) Idc what the reasons you found, but I highly doubt it was anything more than the fact he was uncooperative towards town basically proving he’s an idiot. And this ain’t his first rodeo - the dude knows what a hammer does and he joined it regardless. The dude admitted to purposefully hammering at the end of DP1. Now you tell me - is that stupid or not?
Again, killing town unnecessarily only hurts us.
C.) I’ve repeatedly said I would vote with the rest of town; a couple of people agree with me on my characterization of Club both from this game and previous games. All the guy can do is OMGUS and vote based on that. Zero reads, zero analysis - you’re welcome to check previous games.
"Repeatedly" said you'd vote along with us? You've said it once (I checked), and that was after I had shown the Baye's Theorem math, which is hard to argue against since it's an objective fact. So saying you'd vote along with us makes you seem more reasonable while still allowing you to maintain your anti-Club position.
D.) The reason Wylted was targeting me was stupid. Any blind man could see that I was being sarcastic. And I did defend myself - I indirectly called him an idiot for FOSing based on sarcasm. And he even agreed that it was stupid.
I didn't even mention what you said about being scum in my argument...so why are you randomly bringing it up now?
E.) Not knowing there were 3 mafia doesn’t prove Mharman is town, as I think I and Bsh1 have pointed out earlier in the DP. It’s a common mafia ploy actually.
I never said it proved he was town, I just said it's evidence for him being town. And if it's so common, show me another game when somebody did it.
F.) Starting a wagon on me is useless and you are effectively wasting your vote and helping scum in the process by trying to redirect lynch on the last day.
I wasn't starting a wagon against you, I was just sharing my honest thoughts and asking other people for theirs.
NOTE TO EVERYONE
Strange comments that Pie made
1. He said he repeatedly said that he would vote with the majority town...but he only said it was and that was very recently
2. He starts talking about an argument that I didn't even mention in the first place.
3. He said that claiming not to know how many mafia there are is a common mafia ploy...evidence? (This could actually be true, I wouldn't know since I'm new, but I doubt it)
4. He claimed I was trying to start a wagon when I clearly wasn't
Take from that what you will
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@ILikePie5
I makes me feel grateful for the extra evidence :)
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@Dr.Franklin
It took you 64 days to figure that out? XD
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@Pinkfreud08
Yeahhhhh I agree completely
Me and my sister who was also homeschooled do both have really great test scores, and we also have better behavior than a lot of people in our school (we're not homeschooled anymore) but we both have problems with making friends, me a lot more so than her
I did online schooling for a while and I loved it, but that was only about a year and a half out of the 10+ years that I was homeschooled, I'm way more social when I can't see someone's face, which obviously is terrible
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@ILikePie5
Those are just my thoughts, stop being so sensitive lol
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@Pinkfreud08
@Dr.Franklin
I was homeschooled for the majority of my life, and I hated it (or at least, looking back, I do now). I don't think it's because of homeschooling itself, but because my parents (specifically my mom, she ran the whole thing) never made an effort to actually homeschool me. The majority of time was spent thinking up cool games to play or browsing the internet. I barely learned a thing, even though I love to learn. It also made me extremely anti-social because I was never given time to hang out with other children, so now I have trouble making friends and keeping those friendships strong.
If you homeschool, you need to do it right.
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@bsh1
MY THOUGHTS (I suggest that everyone reads this)
Now, I've never played mafia before, but I have played a game called Secret Hitler, so I think some of my thoughts come from that.
I'm investigating 3 people mainly here:
Pie
Mharman
Club
For Club, since no one has challenged his role and it makes sense to balance poisoner with an equal town role, I think it's likely that he's town
This immediately puts me against Pie. Why? Well, first of all, he's been hammering Club literally since the beginning of DP2. His 6th post was accusing Club. His SIXTH.
Besides that, he's made TWENTY TWO posts just about lynching Club (yes, I counted). And what's more, he's flip-flopped between like 3-5 different reasons for lynching Club. He also has instantly agreed with everyone who says to lynch club, regardless of the reason they use.
Even when my math shows that Mharman lynch is more beneficial, he still hammers Club.
Also, when he was accused of being scum, he all he said was "WRONG."
The few things I know town people do are to stick with one concrete reason for a lynch. Another thing is that they tend to do is go CRAZY trying to defend themselves against scum claims. But Pie never did that. He just brushed it off like an annoying gnat.
Another thing is that he has NEVER considered lynching anybody, not even Mharman. The only times when he has mentioned Mharman in his posts is when he is defending Mharman against a lynch. And he has only about 2 posts doing that, almost as if he's quickly trying to convert attention to Club.
So that is all of my reasoning as to why Pie is mafia.
Mharman
I think that Mharman is town. I would like to clarify something about the math that I did earlier. That math did NOT prove that Mharman was more likely mafia than Club. It ONLY showed that a Mharman lynch gave us more information than a Club lynch.
Why do I think he's town? When he said "there's likely 3 mafia," he would automatically know how many there were if he was mafia. Besides that, unlike Pie, he ALSO went to lynch Club at first, but quickly changed his mind after Club soft-claimed. Changing your mind is very indicative of being town because you're actually considering the evidence in play.
And, like bsh said, it's unlikely that Mharman wouldn't try to deflect his lynch onto someone else if he was mafia.
So, overall, I think Pie has a lot more evidence against him, and we should go for him.
As to who the second and third mafia is, I have my suspicions...but I'm going to save that until the next DP because I don't want to make any unnecessary enemies just yet.
I want to hear y'all's thoughts on this before I change my vote, but I'm likely gonna vote Pie I think
UNVOTE
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@bsh1
THIS IS FOR EVERYONE NOT JUST BSH
A SUPER useful strategy is to go to the people's profiles, go to "Forum," and you can see literally everything they've said all in a row without having to scroll for five years through all of the other muck, so when I'm investigating Pie for instance, I go to his profile and I see everything that he's said
I'm about to post my thoughts by the way
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