Yes, you do have selective listening and learning. No, you didn't respond appropriately to the evidence.
All plants are based on fractals of growth. Thus, it doesn't matter if it is a leaf or a grass patch. The ring spot is a generic condition and is a fractal based organic pattern which occurs on various plants in various situations. It is similar to shingles which form on human skin when people eat inappropriate foods. Thus, if a plant receives inappropriate food (soil); a lack of water; too much water; wrong location; wrong climate; wrong soil type and or pesticide poisoning; - it will present with damaged leaves or some other sign of stress. Thus, silly humans think that they can grow any plant in any location when plants are mostly specialised to a specific area. Thus, plants have sensitivities to specific soil types; rain fall; climate conditions and local animals which may have evolved symbiotic relationships with plants. Thus, bees will spread the pollen of plants which is an example of a symbiotic relationship.
Extract -
As our knowledge about possible BTV advanced in the last decade, a large number of cases were detected, mostly in ornamentals, causing localized lesions. One reason why these viruses have been neglected is the lack of systemic infection. If the mite population declines, due to seasonal factors, and the infected organs fall off or die, the sources of inoculum are reduced, and the disease literally disappears.
Thus, it's not the virus, its the mite which causes the infection.
If you rub a plant you will damage it. Thus, Occam's razor still applies. The simple action of rubbing a delicate plant is obviously sufficient for the plant to be injured. The injured plant will then try to repair itself by creating scar tissue which happens to be in a ring shape. Problem solved. Thanks Occam, for demonstrating to this person that a simple solution is always close at hand. Thus, there is still no need to do complicated and expensive experiments using unnatural apparatus. Nature is simple. Humans are complex and devious.
What do you mean by inoculate? How did you inoculate the uninfected plants?
Note - Ringspot can be induced simply by over watering of plants. Thus, why even bother looking for a complex solution when a simple solution is already available? Occam's razor applies. The simple solution is always the right solution.
So, the soil in the green house has been purified (autoclaved). Hmmmm????
Thus, all the bacteria have been killed and the soil is completely dead. No wonder you have a problem. It's the same as giving a sick person an antibiotic which kills all their interior gut flora. This is medical and pharmaceutical industry profit making insanity. rofl
Note - The ring spot is caused by over watering of plants and could be either a fungus or a mark caused by an adult thrip feeding on the plant. It's not a virus!!!!!!!!!!!
Whiteflame continues to waffle on endlessly; trying to avoid having to provide any evidence. I asked him to provide the viral stain photos which he said that he had. Still waiting. And now,........... he is running to the admin, in the hope that he can weasel his way out of it through political manipulation and manoeuvring. What next???
I thought you were going to show a photo of a virus. Not a photo of two leaves which are wilted. lol
Thus, you still remain a fraud. I have plants in my garden which have similar markings. I added some fertiliser and the markings soon disappeared. Thus, they were vitamin deficient and it wasn't caused by a virus. I can show you before and after photos of the leaves.
You still have time to redeem your dignity and reputation by providing the data. If you don't, it will be forever known on this website that you are both a coward and a fraud.
Wriggle, dodge and stall for time. These are your preferred weapons of defence. I am still waiting for your evidence of stained viruses. The whole medical and research community is just a gigantic fraud which costs society more than they will ever know. I am here to bring all you frauds to justice and put you all in jail where you all belong. So, don't be shy in providing me with the evidence that I can use in a court of law as evidence of this fraud.
A psychopath has many delusions about themselves and they make up characters which they inhabit. Thus, you fit into that profile. Your continual lack of evidence is proof that you have no evidence and that you are just trying to bluff everybody. Still not convinced. You are running scared because you know I have the expertise to rip your flimsy evidence to pieces. Thus, you try to find some escape route by claiming foul play or some other typical debating scam devises.
So, that means that you really are not a virologist. You are just making things up to bluff everybody into thinking that you have some kind of authority. lol
Thus, we can only derive the inevitable conclusion that you have the typical profile of a psychopath.
Yeah, They use pharmaceutical company sponsored equipment to disprove germ theory so that they can put an end to the use of pharmaceutical products and services. lol Likely story. lol No logic again.
Ah ha! So you are a virologist. Now I get it. You are here to defend your profession as a professional bullshite artist. lol
So, both you and Chris Smith (so called 'Naked Scientist') are both virologists and you both closely monitor internet debating sites looking for any germ theory protagonists. The photo in the norovirus is clearly a fraud.
Clearly, an immunoelectron microscope is incapable of photographing isolated free floating particles such as 'viruses'.
I know you don't want to discuss it because you will lose the debate or argument because you know that I am right. lol
Your little story about eating grain, dairy and sugar is also false.
The rules and laws of mathematics and probability says liar. The probability of somebody adhering to such a diet regime without being told to do so is completely astronomical. To quote Douglas Adams " The universe isn't big enough to contain the probability numbers"
Sad - man -
Loose bowels is the result of a damaged intestinal tract which doesn't digest properly so the food just passes through. If you don't address it with a proper diet you can starve to death with a full stomach. This is what most likely happened to Elvis Presley
White - flicker - I have checked out norovirus.
https://cmr.asm.org/content/cmr/28/1/134.full.pdf
The photos are so blurry and grainy that it could be a photo of just about anything. Most likely just cell debris which has antibodies attacking it. This is what normally happens when cell debris is present. Thus, there is no evidence that these so called 'viruses' are real. Note - I am a professional photographer who used to develop prints for microbiologists in a lab. Thus, I know all the tricks and deceptions that they can use.
By contaminated chicken and lettuce you mean chemical poisoning. That's not necessarily germs, unless the chicken is overdue or stale. The question is - What did you put on the bread and what type of bread. Pumpernickel and sour dough bread are both fairly healthy in comparison to white bread. Now, if you put salad and ham on the bread you may have not strictly followed my recommendations. The devil always lies in the detail. And did you wash the bread down with orange juice? lol
If you don't believe what I am saying is true, then you can conduct a short test. Just eat only dairy, grain and sugar for 2 days. Then you will become very sick because of vitamin deficiency. Then, after 2 days stop eating dairy, grain and sugar and eat only meat, vegetables, nuts and fresh fruits. You will then recover very quickly. Thus, you will have proven that I am right and that vitamin deficiency causes disease. Note - I have conducted this experiment dozens of times and I always get the same result. But, alas i know that you won't agree to this test because you have hidden agendas to cover this information.
First you said that "there is no research on leaky gut syndrome". Then, you said that "you know people who have researched this subject on animals". I think this is called a contradiction. lol Thus, I think that you are just a confused person who would say and do anything just to win an argument.
The medical system is never going to confirm that most disease is caused by leaky gut syndrome because it would be admitting that the last 200 years of medical science has been a huge fraud. Thus, in order to protect prestigious university professors from having to retract a life time of false teaching they must continue with the 'big bluff' and fraud which is 'modern medicine'.
rational idiot via whiteflame
Your language is full of violence and alpha male revenge. Thus, you will never make a good debater because you need a cool head to be a good debater.
So, you admit that diet plays a role in health. That's one baby step in the right direction. Now, you have to assess to what degree does nutrition play in maintaining a healthy and disease free body? My understanding is that you won't get leaky gut syndrome if you eat a paleo or normal human diet. Thus, if you don't get leaky gut, then, as a reward, you wont get disease. Thus, one baby step at a time and you have come around to logical thinking like me. lol
Of course you don't understand how the human body works so you wouldn't know why a person dies from stroke at a tender age of 52. Its all about what garbage that you pour down your throat. The more garbage, the sooner you will depart. Thus, most Hollywood stars burn the candle at both ends and eat terrible diets which leads to an earlier than expected death. Elvis Presley. Dead at 42. Too many hamburgers. He had 50 pounds of minced meat in his gut when he died.of heart failure.
You are not educated. I don't know why you keep commenting on science issues when all you have is kindergarten knowledge of the subject. Note - You can't create a virus. What you can create are toxic chemicals like DDT which cause polio, ebola and zika 'so called viruses'. Its just a legal loop hole so that governments and pharmaceutical companies can make money out of suckers such as yourself. And they also avoid going to jail at the same time. Perfect!
Con didn't provide the 11 criteria that are required for scientific proof. Thus, his case was not proved by any stretch of the imagination. Thus, both him and yourself will have to suffer a life of constant illness and disease because you believe in germ theory. lol Thus, justice will be served by the natural order of things. I would suggest you eat as much ice cream, cakes, soft drink, lollies and junk food as you can because your vaccination shots will protect you against all disease. lol Nitwits! lol
Oh yeah, I forgot one more criticism. Your writing style stinks. Its the writing style of a 5 year old. Its very disjointed, bad diction, no flow, no story line, no real life anecdotes, no logic, no respect and most importantly almost unreadable. lol
Your smart - alec - You should take his advise about computer viruses. Its the sneaky way to win which would suit your style and its probably your only real chance of winning. lol
All the so called facts about disease and vaccination are all false facts, but you are so uneducated and brainwashed by the system you still don't know you are being duped.
I haven't encountered anybody on this website who can debate on microbiology. Mostly just juvenile computer nerds who know nothing outside of their artificial cyber reality.
What's this garbage about herd immunity? It doesn't make any sense. Note - There is no such thing as a contagious disease. Thus. there isn't even one immune animal, let alone, a whole herd of 'em. lol Total nonsense!
TEST
Yes, you do have selective listening and learning. No, you didn't respond appropriately to the evidence.
All plants are based on fractals of growth. Thus, it doesn't matter if it is a leaf or a grass patch. The ring spot is a generic condition and is a fractal based organic pattern which occurs on various plants in various situations. It is similar to shingles which form on human skin when people eat inappropriate foods. Thus, if a plant receives inappropriate food (soil); a lack of water; too much water; wrong location; wrong climate; wrong soil type and or pesticide poisoning; - it will present with damaged leaves or some other sign of stress. Thus, silly humans think that they can grow any plant in any location when plants are mostly specialised to a specific area. Thus, plants have sensitivities to specific soil types; rain fall; climate conditions and local animals which may have evolved symbiotic relationships with plants. Thus, bees will spread the pollen of plants which is an example of a symbiotic relationship.
How to fix ring spot without chemicals.
https://www.organolawn.com/services/lawn-fungus/necrotic-ring-spot
Over watering causing ringspot.
https://extension.colostate.edu/topic-areas/yard-garden/necrotic-ring-spot-of-kentucky-bluegrass-2-900/
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-90162010000300014
Extract -
As our knowledge about possible BTV advanced in the last decade, a large number of cases were detected, mostly in ornamentals, causing localized lesions. One reason why these viruses have been neglected is the lack of systemic infection. If the mite population declines, due to seasonal factors, and the infected organs fall off or die, the sources of inoculum are reduced, and the disease literally disappears.
Thus, it's not the virus, its the mite which causes the infection.
If you rub a plant you will damage it. Thus, Occam's razor still applies. The simple action of rubbing a delicate plant is obviously sufficient for the plant to be injured. The injured plant will then try to repair itself by creating scar tissue which happens to be in a ring shape. Problem solved. Thanks Occam, for demonstrating to this person that a simple solution is always close at hand. Thus, there is still no need to do complicated and expensive experiments using unnatural apparatus. Nature is simple. Humans are complex and devious.
What do you mean by inoculate? How did you inoculate the uninfected plants?
Note - Ringspot can be induced simply by over watering of plants. Thus, why even bother looking for a complex solution when a simple solution is already available? Occam's razor applies. The simple solution is always the right solution.
So, the soil in the green house has been purified (autoclaved). Hmmmm????
Thus, all the bacteria have been killed and the soil is completely dead. No wonder you have a problem. It's the same as giving a sick person an antibiotic which kills all their interior gut flora. This is medical and pharmaceutical industry profit making insanity. rofl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gut_flora
Note - The ring spot is caused by over watering of plants and could be either a fungus or a mark caused by an adult thrip feeding on the plant. It's not a virus!!!!!!!!!!!
Whiteflame continues to waffle on endlessly; trying to avoid having to provide any evidence. I asked him to provide the viral stain photos which he said that he had. Still waiting. And now,........... he is running to the admin, in the hope that he can weasel his way out of it through political manipulation and manoeuvring. What next???
I thought you were going to show a photo of a virus. Not a photo of two leaves which are wilted. lol
Thus, you still remain a fraud. I have plants in my garden which have similar markings. I added some fertiliser and the markings soon disappeared. Thus, they were vitamin deficient and it wasn't caused by a virus. I can show you before and after photos of the leaves.
I love it when pathetic morons band together to gain strength in numbers. Its called religion, I believe. Not science. rofl.
Some so called "discoveries" need to be undiscovered and buried forever.
1. Germ theory of disease.
2. Continental drift.
3. Time can change with acceleration.
4. CO2 causes climate change.
You still have time to redeem your dignity and reputation by providing the data. If you don't, it will be forever known on this website that you are both a coward and a fraud.
Wriggle, dodge and stall for time. These are your preferred weapons of defence. I am still waiting for your evidence of stained viruses. The whole medical and research community is just a gigantic fraud which costs society more than they will ever know. I am here to bring all you frauds to justice and put you all in jail where you all belong. So, don't be shy in providing me with the evidence that I can use in a court of law as evidence of this fraud.
A psychopath has many delusions about themselves and they make up characters which they inhabit. Thus, you fit into that profile. Your continual lack of evidence is proof that you have no evidence and that you are just trying to bluff everybody. Still not convinced. You are running scared because you know I have the expertise to rip your flimsy evidence to pieces. Thus, you try to find some escape route by claiming foul play or some other typical debating scam devises.
So, that means that you really are not a virologist. You are just making things up to bluff everybody into thinking that you have some kind of authority. lol
Thus, we can only derive the inevitable conclusion that you have the typical profile of a psychopath.
If you have any evidence of virus stains then send them so I can identify how you forged it. rofl
Madman-
Yeah, They use pharmaceutical company sponsored equipment to disprove germ theory so that they can put an end to the use of pharmaceutical products and services. lol Likely story. lol No logic again.
Once you expose these frauds they immediately go into lock down mode and shut off all communication to reduce loss and collateral damage.
Madman -
So you are a Nazi?
Madman -
You are supporting the pharmaceutical industry which supported Adolf Hitler and helped him to gain power.
http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/economics/igfarben.html
https://wrathoftheawakenedsaxon.wordpress.com/2016/07/25/the-creature-from-jekyll-island-free-pdf-download/
Read and learn dumb arse. Note - This pharmaceutical company still exists under many different names.
Ah ha! So you are a virologist. Now I get it. You are here to defend your profession as a professional bullshite artist. lol
So, both you and Chris Smith (so called 'Naked Scientist') are both virologists and you both closely monitor internet debating sites looking for any germ theory protagonists. The photo in the norovirus is clearly a fraud.
https://www.proteinatlas.org/learn/method/immunoelectron+microscopy
Clearly, an immunoelectron microscope is incapable of photographing isolated free floating particles such as 'viruses'.
I know you don't want to discuss it because you will lose the debate or argument because you know that I am right. lol
Your little story about eating grain, dairy and sugar is also false.
The rules and laws of mathematics and probability says liar. The probability of somebody adhering to such a diet regime without being told to do so is completely astronomical. To quote Douglas Adams " The universe isn't big enough to contain the probability numbers"
Sad - man -
Loose bowels is the result of a damaged intestinal tract which doesn't digest properly so the food just passes through. If you don't address it with a proper diet you can starve to death with a full stomach. This is what most likely happened to Elvis Presley
White - flicker - I have checked out norovirus.
https://cmr.asm.org/content/cmr/28/1/134.full.pdf
The photos are so blurry and grainy that it could be a photo of just about anything. Most likely just cell debris which has antibodies attacking it. This is what normally happens when cell debris is present. Thus, there is no evidence that these so called 'viruses' are real. Note - I am a professional photographer who used to develop prints for microbiologists in a lab. Thus, I know all the tricks and deceptions that they can use.
To madman psycho person (blocked)
1. Stress has nothing to do with lose bowels.
2. Food poisoning is not viral its bacterial.
By contaminated chicken and lettuce you mean chemical poisoning. That's not necessarily germs, unless the chicken is overdue or stale. The question is - What did you put on the bread and what type of bread. Pumpernickel and sour dough bread are both fairly healthy in comparison to white bread. Now, if you put salad and ham on the bread you may have not strictly followed my recommendations. The devil always lies in the detail. And did you wash the bread down with orange juice? lol
If you don't believe what I am saying is true, then you can conduct a short test. Just eat only dairy, grain and sugar for 2 days. Then you will become very sick because of vitamin deficiency. Then, after 2 days stop eating dairy, grain and sugar and eat only meat, vegetables, nuts and fresh fruits. You will then recover very quickly. Thus, you will have proven that I am right and that vitamin deficiency causes disease. Note - I have conducted this experiment dozens of times and I always get the same result. But, alas i know that you won't agree to this test because you have hidden agendas to cover this information.
First you said that "there is no research on leaky gut syndrome". Then, you said that "you know people who have researched this subject on animals". I think this is called a contradiction. lol Thus, I think that you are just a confused person who would say and do anything just to win an argument.
There's a ton of research on intestinal barrier disease.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5187926/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28174772
http://www.acenterfornaturalhealing.com/livingafulfilledlifeblog/2017/2/9/sleep-and-the-gut-brain-axis
The medical system is never going to confirm that most disease is caused by leaky gut syndrome because it would be admitting that the last 200 years of medical science has been a huge fraud. Thus, in order to protect prestigious university professors from having to retract a life time of false teaching they must continue with the 'big bluff' and fraud which is 'modern medicine'.
Well, I guess you are just not as educated as what I am on this matter.
Try these two videos. Note - They are doctors so you don't have to assume that they are nincompoops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pjaXjmZWpU&t=3s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_TZbz16C-U
rational idiot via whiteflame
Your language is full of violence and alpha male revenge. Thus, you will never make a good debater because you need a cool head to be a good debater.
So, you admit that diet plays a role in health. That's one baby step in the right direction. Now, you have to assess to what degree does nutrition play in maintaining a healthy and disease free body? My understanding is that you won't get leaky gut syndrome if you eat a paleo or normal human diet. Thus, if you don't get leaky gut, then, as a reward, you wont get disease. Thus, one baby step at a time and you have come around to logical thinking like me. lol
To Rational madman via whiteflame (blocked)
Like Mohammad Ali, you have been punched once too often. You are now half brain dead. lol
Of course you don't understand how the human body works so you wouldn't know why a person dies from stroke at a tender age of 52. Its all about what garbage that you pour down your throat. The more garbage, the sooner you will depart. Thus, most Hollywood stars burn the candle at both ends and eat terrible diets which leads to an earlier than expected death. Elvis Presley. Dead at 42. Too many hamburgers. He had 50 pounds of minced meat in his gut when he died.of heart failure.
You are not educated. I don't know why you keep commenting on science issues when all you have is kindergarten knowledge of the subject. Note - You can't create a virus. What you can create are toxic chemicals like DDT which cause polio, ebola and zika 'so called viruses'. Its just a legal loop hole so that governments and pharmaceutical companies can make money out of suckers such as yourself. And they also avoid going to jail at the same time. Perfect!
I don't want you to give me any points because you are just an upside down donkey who knows nothing about anything.
Luke Perry dead at 52. Another person who believed in germ theory bites the dust very early. lol You two won't be far behind! lol
Con didn't provide the 11 criteria that are required for scientific proof. Thus, his case was not proved by any stretch of the imagination. Thus, both him and yourself will have to suffer a life of constant illness and disease because you believe in germ theory. lol Thus, justice will be served by the natural order of things. I would suggest you eat as much ice cream, cakes, soft drink, lollies and junk food as you can because your vaccination shots will protect you against all disease. lol Nitwits! lol
So............ that means that you must be that person.
correction - His avatar can be whatever he wants it to be. Ahhh...... at last. Some decent English. Very rare on this site. lol
Oh yeah, I forgot one more criticism. Your writing style stinks. Its the writing style of a 5 year old. Its very disjointed, bad diction, no flow, no story line, no real life anecdotes, no logic, no respect and most importantly almost unreadable. lol
Your smart - alec - You should take his advise about computer viruses. Its the sneaky way to win which would suit your style and its probably your only real chance of winning. lol
Doesn't his avatar look rude and arrogant. Very appropriate I think.
Oh , so you are a 1960's hippy dope smoker. Hmmmm?? Now I get it.
All the so called facts about disease and vaccination are all false facts, but you are so uneducated and brainwashed by the system you still don't know you are being duped.
I haven't encountered anybody on this website who can debate on microbiology. Mostly just juvenile computer nerds who know nothing outside of their artificial cyber reality.
I wouldn't want to have a man-date with whiteflame. He's not my type! lol
What's this garbage about herd immunity? It doesn't make any sense. Note - There is no such thing as a contagious disease. Thus. there isn't even one immune animal, let alone, a whole herd of 'em. lol Total nonsense!
Can somebody drop kick ramshutu?
That makes 7.4 billion and one. lol