Ironically enough. Christianity is to be like and follow christ. Jesus never killed or hurt anyone but told us to love our neighbor as ourself. So if christianity causes problems and harm, then its not christianity, but a perversion thereof.
There was no commandment for them to eat meat until after sin. Read genesis. They were commanded to eat of every tree and herb. Genesis 2:9 and genesis 2:16-19
Im curious by what you mean by "update" you going to explain that? Because the bible isnt really updated, its still the same scrolls we've been using since the 1980s.
Semantically. Every debate is stupid.
Stupid
Having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.
Only if we become omniscient is any debate not stupid. But then again, it would be stupid to have a debate if you are omniscient. Unless you just want a non omniscient being to realize they are stupid.
Its not that he didnt want us to, its just there was never the need for bloodshed till we sinned. Since then we are given provisions because our appetites are now lustful. That and the shedding of life would be needful to push back sin. Animals had no sin, but they had awareness of Gods order and they had life. Thats one reason why abels offering was chosen, rather than the fruit cain brought. Aside from his heart toward God.
I disagree. Adam and eve never ate meat while they were sinless. A person can live on fruits, nuts, bread, milk and other plants quite easily and optimally. Taste and access is the main factors.
"Peach cheated, but the people who tend to cheat on their spouses tend to be attractive because if you’re unattractive, no one would want to cheat on you, therefore you don’t end up cheating. Not all attractive people cheat, but all people who cheat have to be somewhat attractive, otherwise, they can’t cheat, to begin with. Therefore, Peach’s cheating experience is evidence that she is hotter."
What kind of reasoning is that? First off, attractiveness is subjective, whereas body temperature isn't. The example of how many times a person is cheated on doesnt show attraction, it show commitment. There are many faithful wives that are attractive and never have been cheated on or cheated with others. Idk what kind of reality you live in, but its a false one.
I just did. The bible is Gods case file and creation his evidence. Again, i recommend you do a philosophical debate about omnipotence. With religion you will just get a headache.
Revelation 19:6 6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
Just ask mods to delete and try another debate. Use that title and put yourself as con or pro respectively. As long as debate isnt finished they can delete if both parties agree.
I agree, it is a moot point. As i typed that before he posted first round. I was responding to you because you called me a smart ss. So im glad you figured out what i ment.
The context makes it obvious IF you know what the definition is. Most of the time using a word with multiple definitions has to be clarified. In one context of alien, say, they travel in outer space, that makes it clear that its most likely not human. But doesnt answer if its an angel or assumed lifeform
As a teenager you dont know much about reality and the world is pushing agendas that are false. Take some years to learn stuff. Listen and think before speaking. God willing you live to see the days ahead.
If you dont believe the bible, just say so. But dont assert it as wrong based on your world view. Also the bible never said they were or werent equal, only that they are "weaker vessels"
Like with anything else, it depends on species and location. All you have to do for example would describe the one time where zelda was surrounded by fire vs maybe a time peach was put in a volcano. Now if you created about who was hot MORE OFTEN. That would be an intresting discussion. Also zelda was an animal one time. Meaning body temperature was possibly higher than a humans. But i digress
True. Id rather not be remembered at all if it was made a lie. But the point here is the correlation between defamation and false accusation. Fame is fame, even if its fame for evil. But a history that is wrong has to do more with integrity. Thats how i see it
I think he was quoting me when i said it was outside the bible.
The topic about space (which is mentioned in scriptures) did not apparently qualify to pro as he dismissed it and said "
Melcharaz avatar
Well and good, but these are effectively outside the bible, i asked that the person im discussing with would explain views and beliefs in or regarding the 66 books of the bible"
i can only surmise that he asserted the proof of space as "outside" the bible. And then con spammed an i agree.
This was an intresting debate. Something i think should be considered is the implications of defamation. Alot of people would probably never heard of bruce if not for braveheart. Was his fame truely diminished? Or was it falsely accused? But this is more philosophy related.
Ironically enough. Christianity is to be like and follow christ. Jesus never killed or hurt anyone but told us to love our neighbor as ourself. So if christianity causes problems and harm, then its not christianity, but a perversion thereof.
Just to be clear, when you say enhanced torture, you arent referring to waterboarding?
Well, there are scriptures about why we should. But you dont want a religious view in debate.
There was no commandment for them to eat meat until after sin. Read genesis. They were commanded to eat of every tree and herb. Genesis 2:9 and genesis 2:16-19
Alrighty. Have fun!
Can you tell me where the bible says women are lesser and where gentiles had to follow old laws?
Looks like i needed an update. Lol
Sorry, was 2019 https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-the-qumran-cliffs-an-expedition-digs-up-new-dead-sea-scroll-caves/
Im curious by what you mean by "update" you going to explain that? Because the bible isnt really updated, its still the same scrolls we've been using since the 1980s.
Semantically. Every debate is stupid.
Stupid
Having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.
Only if we become omniscient is any debate not stupid. But then again, it would be stupid to have a debate if you are omniscient. Unless you just want a non omniscient being to realize they are stupid.
This would be better debate, i think.
Its not that he didnt want us to, its just there was never the need for bloodshed till we sinned. Since then we are given provisions because our appetites are now lustful. That and the shedding of life would be needful to push back sin. Animals had no sin, but they had awareness of Gods order and they had life. Thats one reason why abels offering was chosen, rather than the fruit cain brought. Aside from his heart toward God.
I still dont know what question you are asking.
You want to know why God created animals? Or why God allowed us to eat them?
Go without food and water, see how long ya last. Lol. Unless this is a semantic debate
I disagree. Adam and eve never ate meat while they were sinless. A person can live on fruits, nuts, bread, milk and other plants quite easily and optimally. Taste and access is the main factors.
Art is in the name.
Might as well delete debate. He left. No points will be proven
Yeah, its a shame that the mars rover recently had its funding cut a bit.
"Peach cheated, but the people who tend to cheat on their spouses tend to be attractive because if you’re unattractive, no one would want to cheat on you, therefore you don’t end up cheating. Not all attractive people cheat, but all people who cheat have to be somewhat attractive, otherwise, they can’t cheat, to begin with. Therefore, Peach’s cheating experience is evidence that she is hotter."
What kind of reasoning is that? First off, attractiveness is subjective, whereas body temperature isn't. The example of how many times a person is cheated on doesnt show attraction, it show commitment. There are many faithful wives that are attractive and never have been cheated on or cheated with others. Idk what kind of reality you live in, but its a false one.
Instead of focusing on leviticus. Take a look at deuteronomy 12:15,21-22
what is acceptable for offering vs eating
People who study biology and social structure.
I just did. The bible is Gods case file and creation his evidence. Again, i recommend you do a philosophical debate about omnipotence. With religion you will just get a headache.
Bible is direct evidence. If you wanted to debate it non religiously, you should have used philosophy, not religion
Revelation 19:6 6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
It is. He is mocking scripture. If you read the whole story, david and johnathan were like bros.
Just ask mods to delete and try another debate. Use that title and put yourself as con or pro respectively. As long as debate isnt finished they can delete if both parties agree.
If we are going by bible, then yes, God hates the sin of homosexuality.
I agree, it is a moot point. As i typed that before he posted first round. I was responding to you because you called me a smart ss. So im glad you figured out what i ment.
Also title is a declaration, not a subject persay. So i advise unmoderated votes to con.
There is an easy fix to this. Ie Troll debating. Problem solved
I dont support debates. Votes are vanity.
The context makes it obvious IF you know what the definition is. Most of the time using a word with multiple definitions has to be clarified. In one context of alien, say, they travel in outer space, that makes it clear that its most likely not human. But doesnt answer if its an angel or assumed lifeform
Importance is subjective. What is important to one isnt important to another.
As a teenager you dont know much about reality and the world is pushing agendas that are false. Take some years to learn stuff. Listen and think before speaking. God willing you live to see the days ahead.
If you dont believe the bible, just say so. But dont assert it as wrong based on your world view. Also the bible never said they were or werent equal, only that they are "weaker vessels"
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/4069/manipulation-of-the-constitution-freedom-of-religion-and-speech?page=2
America's constitution doesnt allow for regulation or disarmament. Good luck
Like with anything else, it depends on species and location. All you have to do for example would describe the one time where zelda was surrounded by fire vs maybe a time peach was put in a volcano. Now if you created about who was hot MORE OFTEN. That would be an intresting discussion. Also zelda was an animal one time. Meaning body temperature was possibly higher than a humans. But i digress
Depending on the definition of aliens. People from other countries to angels fit that definition
Id like to ride on a train someday. A not so crowded one.
Alrighty.
Since yall both went over this information recently, there should be no need for redefining unless there is new information or arguements added.
Would you mind deleting this debate?
Alrighty
Heck ill ask virtuo to delete it if you want. This was pointless anyways
I can report it if you want. Points dont matter to me. I was hoping for a discussion
True. Id rather not be remembered at all if it was made a lie. But the point here is the correlation between defamation and false accusation. Fame is fame, even if its fame for evil. But a history that is wrong has to do more with integrity. Thats how i see it
I think he was quoting me when i said it was outside the bible.
The topic about space (which is mentioned in scriptures) did not apparently qualify to pro as he dismissed it and said "
Melcharaz avatar
Well and good, but these are effectively outside the bible, i asked that the person im discussing with would explain views and beliefs in or regarding the 66 books of the bible"
i can only surmise that he asserted the proof of space as "outside" the bible. And then con spammed an i agree.
This was an intresting debate. Something i think should be considered is the implications of defamation. Alot of people would probably never heard of bruce if not for braveheart. Was his fame truely diminished? Or was it falsely accused? But this is more philosophy related.
I am a little curious myself about rating. Was there specific people u didnt want to debate?