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@Outplayz
Why believe blindly? We already know monopolies are bad for economies, and the government is the ultimate monopoly....Yeah... I guess we can only cross our fingers that we are good enough to do it right. That is why i am not a fan of government involvement as a whole. I think we should try everything before bring them into the mix.
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@linate
Obamacare isn't for poor people only, like food stamps are.giving people healthcare similar to food stamps? or, in other words give them subsidies but keep our current structure? or in other words, obamacare minus the mandate and regulations? i never took you for an obamacare type of person.
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@Outplayz
There's not a single example in this country, or any other country, where the government took over the management aspects of an industry and lowered costs without lowering the supply.
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@Outplayz
I mean think of it this way...food is vital to survival...but generally, the government doesn't grow food for us or tell farmers how to grow food (will they kinda do with subsidies but most farmers are free to grow what the people need through a free market)
Poor people that can't afford food get food stamps.
Why can't we do the same thing with healthcare? Full private healthcare, with welfare for the poor? Why does government have to manage the entire thing with regulations and mandates?
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@Outplayz
I get it and I hate to use the same analogy that socialists use "well that isn't real socialism"
But it's really true that we have extremely limited competition with healthcare providers, especially with state regulated monopolies on insurance companies.
There's plenty of things we can do to destroy medical monopolies and create competition simply by deregulating the medical industry. I think it's the second most regulated industry behind banks, correct me if i am wrong. And you know how fcked up the banking system is.
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@linate
1 out of 900 isn't a risk I want to take when I am sick...especially if the stat is 1 out of 900 healthy people.
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@Outplayz
Create new jobs eh? Because even the half-attempt from obamacare destroyed a lot of productive private sector jobs...for what?
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@linate
any is too much. 1 out of 900 can have a fatal condition that Canada can't fix.
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@linate
Just getting seen quick isn't nearly as important as quality of care. If a nurse gives you 2 aspirin and shows you the door, you've been had.
Government run healthcare is great..... until you get sick. The entire world travels to the USA to get quality care.
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@linate
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
You can have the trust-busting government eliminate the AMA and make it illegal for doctors to unionize. Also the government can stop imposing unfair licensing practices. That would increase doctors for sure.
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@Danielle
>>>If you are a fan of Bernie - do you agree and why?
They're not breadlines, they're DEMOCRATIC breadlines. Jeez, people need to learn the difference...
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@Outplayz
Our government is already overburdened with excessive responsibilities. It's unfair to ask the government to take on more jobs without removing other burdens.
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If you listen to commencement speakers without falling asleep, you will often here the same phrase "make a difference"
This has to be one of the worst bits of advice well-meaning commencement speakers habitually offer to the youth of America. This hackneyed mantra assumes that everything needs to be changed, when that's clearly a very bad idea if some things are working just fine, or have a low priority for change. Likewise, this advice assumes that all differences made are good changes. This is an extremely naive assertion. Making changes just to make changes without any rational thought is something a monkey can do, not what we expect out of college graduates. Change solely for change's sake can easily lead to the collapse of everything we value in society.
In a nutshell "hope and change" is terrible advice to give to graduates. A monkey can do this without prompting.
"Evaluate and improve the world" would be far, far better advice. This is what we should expect from a rational, critically-thinking responsible citizen.
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@Swagnarok
There are exactly zero democracies accepting refugees that also require integration. That includes Canada.
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@Earth
He is talking about the health costs for the aging Chinese population which won't be covered adequately by the youth. This view also presupposed that China gives a crap about the welfare of the elderly and prolonging elderly life after their productive use to China is long expired.
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@RationalMadman
The Japanese would disagree that South Korea isn't fascist toward them.
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@RationalMadman
South Korea is also Fascist.Few realise how potent and efficient South Korea (RoK) is.
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@1harderthanyouthink
The wonderpuppy is always welcome.I saw Yassine's posts on DDO. I thought about making a new username and such but decided to at least start with my old name and picture. I'll probably make a decision on which route to go in the next few hours, but I felt I should claim my username in the short term. But this is a breath of fresh air, almost.
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@RationalMadman
That's a weird thing to claim when the world presently has plenty of leftist nationalists. Do you think Cuba is right wing nationalist?
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@Buddamoose
You’ll often hear Left-wing people saying that fascism was a Right-wing movement because it stressed race or national identity. But some Right-wing thinkers insist it was a Left-wing movement because it rejected class elitism and put controls on the economy. The truth is that fascists usually defined themselves as being neither Left nor Right but a combination of whatever policies helped to win power and "rejuvenate" the nation. It's simply nationalism with a dictator. Economics and social leans are secondary.
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@Buddamoose
If anything Facism is actually a very limited label, much like Salinism. It existed under extremely limiting circumstances with specific actors.
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@Buddamoose
That would require it always being open or previous discussions would be lost. That seems detrimental to me 🤔
What about google docs?
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@Danielle
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Skeptical Minarchist. Change my mind.
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@Yassine
China has steadily moved toward a more open and relaxed market which means it won't be long before they outproduce any other country. America's place will be 2nd.
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@JusticeWept
>But in our zeal to embrace innovation, lots of people end up losing out.
Exactly who is losing out here? Some commissioner's cousin that desperately needs a government job regulating UBER drivers because he can't make it in the private sector?
Something to consider here, which I am sure the well educated city planners know, is that UBER has significantly reduced the amount of cars in the city. If an UBER driver carries 10 people a day in 10 trips, thats 10 other cars that are not on the road. It's not an insignificant number. The government has no clue what the optimal amount of UBER drivers should be. They don't know what kind of driver the public wants, or anything else the public wants for that matter. The only people that will ultimately lose out are the people who rely on UBER to get around once the government steps in and screws it all up.
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@JusticeWept
>why do you think undocumented immigrants take such a perilous journey to get here? If I were a parent in that situation, I'd choose the same way...
As a parent I think this is a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of safe places to live south of California, but the reason "Refugees" don't go there is because that is not where the money is. A bank robber makes a perilous journey to rob banks because that's where the money is. There is nothing noble what these parents are doing to their kids. Every one of these parents could have chosen to live in a safer place.
Refer to this website..http://visionofhumanity.org/indexes/global-peace-index/
Every country south of California with the exception of Columbia, Venezuela, and of course Mexico ranks safer than the United States. Refugees are not travelling thousands of miles for safety. They want free stuff. A parent that puts their child in danger to get free stuff should have their kids confiscated.
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@JusticeWept
>You can throw the idea that it "highlighted hypocrisy" out there, but if you don't have anything backing that, it doesn't even qualify as an argument. Otherwise, this is just an abstracted whataboutism.
His argument isn't anything close to whataboutism. It's about the lesser of 2 evils.
> It would be akin to describing the Republican party by the actions of Mississippi, when the most popular Republican governor in the country is in Massachusetts!
This is an apples/oranges comparison. The media has shown far fewer extreme candidates on the right jockeying for a leadership position in the party than candidates on the left. With the overwhelming party bias of the media, if there was smoke, you can be sure they would find the fire.
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@RationalMadman
I wouldn't say he is extremely economic right wing. Trump supports subsidies for farmers.
A person on the extremes would have abolished all government tax-funded subsidies to businesses instead of embraced them. Subsidies are a socialist agenda, not a capitalist agenda. Government controlling the economy by selecting winners and losers in the market defines economic socialism. Government doesn't actually have to own the businesses to control them with subsidies to select favorite industries. Capitalism requires a free market free from government subsidies so that inefficient businesses can fail and free up that capital for productive ventures. Businesses influenced by the government are always relatively inefficient and unresponsive to market demand pressures. Every country with nationalized industry has found this to be the case.
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@Earth
Probably. When you have people wanting to redistribute the wealth from the few productive members and give to the mass of unproductive members like the Germans did with the Jews, Fascism starts to look appealing. The demonization of the white male is the first step. Next will be boxcars loaded with rich white men sent to re-education centers.
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@RationalMadman
Sure, I kinda got the gist that you were a globalist when you claimed that wanting to make your nation better than others is fascist.
But nearly all other nations strive for that because we presently live in a world of competing nations, not a global alliance of egalitarian nations. The ongoing refugee crisis in Europe proves this is the case.
You are essentially labeling most nations on the planet as Fascist simply for competing with other nations for resources to ensure survival, which is in our nature as are all lifeforms on the planet. What's the purpose of having a nation if survival is a trivial goal? You won't find many people willing to give up their livelihoods simply to claim they are not Fascist.
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@RationalMadman
That's such a bizarre criteria for fascism to say a nation that negotiates from a position of making their country better than other countries is what makes a nation fascist. Again, you are describing nearly every other nation on the planet. Name me one nation that pursues policies that ensure they are a vassal of another nation or deliberately hobbles themselves to ensure they are "on par" with other nations. The closest one you will find is Finland who consistently grovels before the Russians as a weak neutral border nation to make sure they do not provoke them. Is Finland the only non-fascist nation for having that policy?
Fascism is wanting to make your nation better?
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@RationalMadman
Trump like every politician is flawed. You can tell when a person lacks perspective when they cannot point to either a good thing a person has done or a bad thing. Fascism should not be a label reserved for "someone you just don't like"
Fascism should actually mean something specific. If you say "Tariffs are a critical component of fascism," then all countries that have tariffs are fascist.
Perhaps you should just drop the hate labels before you shred them beyond recognition.
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@RationalMadman
Another part of your assertion is very troubling that the idea that the USA exists to make other nations great. We have had long standing nation-building policies for many decades with disastrous results, especially in the Middle East and Southern/Central America. We cannot point to a single success in nation building since the Marshall Plan in 1948. If continuing these interventionista policies makes our country <NOT Fascist> ....perhaps we have to re-evaluate what our labels really mean.
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@Buddamoose
It's really hard to win elections when one side's slogan is "illegal immigrants and their children first."
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@RationalMadman
If imposing tariffs are a fascist action as you stated, then you must concede that almost every nation on the planet is fascist, as they have imposed tariffs on American goods for decades.
Are there any other Fascist actions you wish to highlight? Any other specific policies? (hint, almost every policy you will point to is a watered down policy of what other nations use against us, especially concerning border control.)
Slapping a label liberally only weakens the label.
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@RationalMadman
Okay...name me one Facist action. (you do know what an action is?)
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When you are raised as a coddled snowflake, and a pinprick feels like a gunshot wound, then a funny looking man saying mean things will surely look like Hitler to you.
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@Buddamoose
His trolling over the years has literally driven the left insane. I almost feel sorry for them, they all thought they were so well educated and strong.
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@Buddamoose
Don't forget about the abolish ICE...open border, anti-wall candidates....
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