Bones

Ok. Thank you for giving up with your argument, because obviously you don't have enough belief in it to continue the argument. 

 To act upon your homosexual desires, or to look at men as a man with lustful intent is a sin. 

Woah....I never said anything about forcing anyone into anything.

Would you agree then in this circumstance there is nothing practical to do to change this individuals perception on boxing?

No. Maybe other things might change their perception on boxing. 

Examples:

Watching others succeed at boxing.

Just simply watching boxing. 

One person might not like boxing, and start to box every day, but even though they do it every day all day, they might not like it. 

But I don't know, maybe you just haven't realized it yet. 

There is no instance where you cannot change your personal desires.

From your debates, you would know about screwing up arguments. 

At least I don't have an ego, and admit I am wrong, when I realize it.

Does not address what I said. Seeing as how you believe that evolving from finding women sexually attractive to finding men sexually active, and evolving to love roadkill eating are all possible, provide me one example where you cannot change your personal desires. 

There is no example

So repetition will eventuate into joy and passion for any given act?

In some cases, yes.

In some cases, no.

So.... you do realize that you just screwed up your entire argument....right?

You are telling me that if you endless ate roadkill, you would eventually love it? 

You were talking to me. I am not speaking for everyone when I said "Yes".

If the cases of "yes" includes finding women sexually attractive to men and roadkill eating, I can't imagine anything that would be in the "no" category.

Well, I'm sorry to break it to you, but your imagination isn't always right. 

Holistic: dealing with or treating the whole of something or someone and not just a part (cambridge dictionary)

Your claim, therefore, being homosexual is ALWAYS out of the agent's control.

So repetition will eventuate into joy and passion for any given act?

In some cases, yes.

In some cases, no.

Yes

I would go about doing that, by eating roadkill and horse s**t. 

Ok sure I'll just change it to the observation that you cannot start loving the idea of eating road kill and horse shit, therefore you inability to love doing these things means you have no free will. Is that a valid inference in your opinion?

But if I really wanted to, I could love the idea of eating roadkill and horse s**t. Therefore, I do have free will.

Are you arguing they didn't choose to be gay? You claimed sexuality in all people is immutable. I found two examples it wasn't. Therefore your premise is wrong. Sexuality is mutable.

Your comparing preference, to physical ability?

Ok then......

I have two cousins. Both gay. Both started straight. Were straight for years. Then one day just "decided" and then never went back to being straight.

If it was a choice for them... Then it obviously follows that it is a choice for others as well.

ecome gay?

I could theoretically become attracted to men. 

To first be attracted to women, then be attracted to men, would mean that I would have to of had an experience, that caused that change, which would be sinful, because giving into the temptation of having an experience with a man by any means would be sinful, according to Gods word. 

If you believe that sexual preference can be changed, and that homosexuals can and ought to be expected to change their sexuality, then it follows that your own sexual preference can be changed, if you really wanted to. 

Yes, if I really wanted to.

So, no matter how long you try, you cannot love someone you cannot. Then how can you expect homosexuals to love someone they do not? 

If you're forcing it upon yourself to do so, then you cannot. 

It can change without force, by the love of God. 

I can't force myself to truly love just anyone, no matter how long I try... I can't force myself to change my sexual preference.

1. If we accept for the reductio that homosexuality is a sin
   
2. And the fact that homosexuality is by nature innate and unchangeable by sheer will meaning they will not change. 
   
3. It follows that God hates homosexuals, for they are "sinners" who will never change for homosexuality is in their nature. Just like if God decided that having brains was a sin, the fact that all humans have brains to some capacity and were "created" in such a manner means that the creation of God is fundementally poor.  
   

Well one Christmas day has come and gone. The new target date I suspect will be next Christmas day.

You realise that every single one of these arguments fail via the God of the Gaps fallacy - the notion that because the naturalistic world viewcannot explain X phenomenon, whether it be the moral law or actualistion of human life, and that this entails the God hypothesis as the answer. Essentially, assuming Gods existence as the presupposed status quo.

No, in fact we can explain a Gods existence using the naturalistic world, for instance the Law of Biogenesis.

The Law of Biogenesis: "The principle stating that life arises from pre-existing life, not from nonliving material." the law of biogenesis - Google Search

Nothing we have now, couldn't have existed, without pre-existing life. That means, for there to be life now, there had to of been infinite life before us.

And if you ask me, I'll tell you (as well as many other people) that no living thing, that abides by the laws of nature, can survive infinitely. Something supernatural could though. 

• "because naturalism cannot explain the existence of living organisms, life was created by God" 
  

• "because naturalism cannot explain lightning, lightning was created by God".