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@Sidewalker
The real question is:Why do you think about black-washing anime characters?
Facts.
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@badger
Not sure it has to be of importance for someone to have an opinion about it. I'm asking for opinions instead of debating about the subject, this is my form of a mini-debate. I would like to contradict opinions that disagree with mine - without having the need for hosting a debate.
If you don't have an opinion on it, cool. Why are you commenting? Simply ignore it and move by.
Without realizing, you're gave me your opinion on it.
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Self explanatory, what do you think about black-washing anime characters?
Personally I believe it's taking away the representation of Asian culture. It doesn't matter how much you want to see someone who is of color.
A common character I see that is black-washed is Izuku Midoriya, also known as Deku. He is a character from My Hero Academia and the protagonist. 'Everyone' seems to get offended when someone white-washes a character but not black-washing? They all tend to turn a blind eye. Funny. You will most likely not see anyone make a part two of any movie from the main character going black to white. Everyone would go nuts. "Oh my god, they are racist, they made him white in movie two!"
What's the difference? If you take away someones representation but get offended at the other you are a hypocrite.
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Stupidest thing i've heard all day. Get rid of the LGBTQ(IA+) community? Since when was the community an ideology?
Actually, being homosexual is common among many and should be considered fine.
Dominate, submissive, switch, all can be pleasure and still be once again, fine. If you're pleasured or stimulated by acts that are of homosexuality, that's fine.
Not sure where you got this "ideology" deal from.
I'll continue to stand by this.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
As some people are learning in the real world the hard way, there is no set of rules that can't be warped by a sufficiently dishonest judge (or mod). You have no choice but to trust them regardless, the reason to put the rules in precise language is so abuse is obvious and demonstrable.
Incorrect. Theres a misconception between trust and hope. I don't have to trust the mods, I don't have to trust they are doing the right job. I can hope they are but it doesn't mean I trust them. Honestly, as of right now, I don't trust anyone here. This also applies for voters, you're vote can be against someone with the better argument but its still valid. As long as it is an explained vote. That right there can show biased votes can be placed without worry or technical violation. No, I don't trust the mod's judgment until I see something worthy to be trusted. This isn't meant to be an understatement for the mod's. Just until they've proved their 'good judgement' to me, I can't say I trust them, their judgement. But then again, our opinions differ. I could think something violates and they may not, vise versa.
The part you quoted is indeed vague, but so was the previous CoC. This has less basis that can be used to arbitrarily justify a ban.
What do you mean by "this"? The under-development possible MEEP or the current one?
If anything, the current CoC is better. I won't get called out for 'hurting someones feelings'. Could you imagine the amount of debaters who could possibly get affected? Thus, this one feels more vague depending on what parts you pull out.
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I vote Nay.
"refrain from personal attacks/insults with the purpose of causing harm to another user. We do not tolerate any form of harassment, bullying, or threats of violence", this is vague. If you can't handle being insulted, why are you here? Welcome to the real world, folks. I just can't imagine some of the users who would suffer from this.
Let me clarify one restriction. I know most of Debateart doesn't engage in rap battles that diss one another, but its still something others may want to try. With these rules, dissing another with personal attacks would be considered 'wrong'. Unless there is a modification with this, it restricts engaging in rap battles freely.
As for more access for moderators, I don't know. I can't say I trust any of the moderators, i've talked little with only one moderator. It's not that they are or aren't doing a good job or aren't worth trusting, but how would I know? Further down the line, I will. But as of right now, like said, I don't know.
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@WeaverofFate
Alright, I think i'll stay on the sidelines. I've read your rules, and most are alright. However, I know one of the rules won't work for me.
I'll challenge myself one of these days but right now I know three days wouldn't go well with me.
I appreciate the invite anyways.
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@WeaverofFate
Maybe. I'll have to look over the rules and exactly which participants. I'm not exactly the best with going into debates blindfolded.
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Maybe. I'm not good with going into debates blindfolded.
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@Vader
Hopefully, you're not projecting that "you" towards me specifically but in general. I assume you mean in general.
My comment said, "Once again, I need opinions. I'm currently not sure who (or if) i'll support."
As for the comment in general, thank you. Guess until we get results on that website, we shouldn't have major thoughts on it. Doesn't mean that I would support this website in the meantime, though.
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@DebateArt.com
Oh, I didn't mean for it to be viewed as "shutting down". It's simply the fact of which one I should support.
Either to support this website, or follow along with another.
My question on who to support has nothing to do with this website shutting down or not.
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Once again, I need opinions. I'm currently not sure who (or if) i'll support.
Sir.Lancelot's postings about his website in development:
Basically I just need opinions to sway my thoughts in the right direction.
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I think all someone needs to do is make another debate.
Weaver needs to publish his argument as one letter or whatever is desired.
Pretty much self explanatory, just wait for the one week voting to end.
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@zedvictor4
Likewise, I am not in the most current trends regarding gender. Now that you say it, I'll have to get back into it.
You are either a sperm producer or an egg producer.
Debatable. However in most cases, yes.
Nothing much to say with everything else you said, I can agree, at the moment.
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@PREZ-HILTON
When I mean the usual, I mean by how people normally start conversations.. like not sending nudes.
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@PREZ-HILTON
I'll consider supporting.
That said, how much do you think individually would be a good amount?
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@PREZ-HILTON
You got a better ideal how to welcome them?
You know, how usual conversations start..
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@zedvictor4
Maybe so. I'm not completely sure how far that knowledge goes, being there are many on top of many different examples of women loving to argue and do anything to prove their point. Is it the need of information to prove their points? Pressure?
Not sure if you're guessing my gender.. It's amusing how many people assume my gender based on my beliefs. Despite assumptions, I don't think i'll be the same as Poly, that's just not my *complete* style.
That said, yes, I will stick around for quite a while or at least hopefully.
Your point can be questioned, but still stands as reasonable. Thanks for participating in this topic.
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@RationalMadman
As for your comment on page one, i'll need some time to respond to it.
But as for this comment,
He is actually only slightly right, that edge is much less what he means. Women use more white matter in the brain, men use more grey matter.Grey matter is used for logical processing, white matter is used for linguistic processing.
I just read a couple of articles last night, stating the exact opposite, women have more grey matter than men have in their brains.
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@Double_R
Responding to all of these is taking quite a while..
I'm not familiar with the man or woman's brain. But now with you mentioning this I might look into it, thanks.
That said, I mostly believe this depends on your experiences. There are many examples that men act more on feeling rather than women but the same goes for women acting more on feeling.
However, my personal thoughts are that men rely more on feelings rather than logical reasoning. I think this relates to Wylted (or Priz-Hilton) comment, mental masturbation, i'm not sure if that's the case. If we really think about it, what are most arguments between women? Why do they argue? Well, we can almost always infer that women find a reason to argue either because of the following,
- Prove a point
- Excitement / Sadistic
I'm surprised that many think that women don't find debating appealing. I've seen countless women start an argument just for the fun of it.
Arguing based on feelings would not be right for a debate, you're right. I wouldn't just say this more so about women, I could say the same about males as well.
Either way, you have a valid point. Thanks for sharing.
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@PREZ-HILTON
@Sidewalker
it doesn't help that PREZ-HILTON sends them his costume nude picsYou got a better ideal how to welcome them?
I'm 💀..
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@PREZ-HILTON
Hm, alright. I don't think there's much to say. I have mixed feelings about this response.
Maybe i'll get to it later if I think of something that extends further than what I am thinking as of right now.
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I've been on this website for around 28 days and I haven't seen the sight of a female in debates or currently active threads.
All members I've seen are males in both debates and forums.
My question is, why? Why do you think most are male rather than females?
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I do agree with the others, Austin and TWS.
Along with that,
Renaming of threads or debate titlesModerators have the right to rename a thread or debate title if it is deemed to be offensive or inappropriate. This includes any title or thread that is harmful or offensive to a particular individual or group.
What defines offensive? Many people on this website can claim something as offensive due to personal beliefs. Such as the debate title "Homosexuality is wrong", other users could say, "That offends me because i'm homosexual!". Anything could be offensive.
If someone has a problem with the title or opinion of another, accept the position and debate.
If you can't handle other peoples opinions i'm surprised you have lasted this long with the different opinions in society.
- Apparently it won't let me mention you because your offline.
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@Dr.Franklin
Just proves my point, and you aren't countering it.
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@Athias
Your right, my bad. Definitely shouldn't be considered a strength, lol.
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@Dr.Franklin
I won't be using sources or anything, this isn't really a debate. Instead I'll be using common knowledge.
My bad, guess I wasn't reading my response fully. The correct term I should have been using was, "If I could prove one woman acts for the community and not just themselves, would this be considered incorrect?"you can try
I already think my first response answers this, but I'll further it even more.
Some women rake the leaves of someones lawn or shovel the snow on someones driveway. Some women volunteer at food banks, hospitals, etc. Some women do favors for others.
I feel the list just goes on and on..
Women activists don't do everything they can to improve their own individual problems. Let me use an example, there were white women who not undergoing any discrimination themselves, fought for people of color. And I would assume there are still white women who speak out against discrimination. So, if they are a person of color why are they speaking out? They are speaking out to improve the conditions of others not themselves. There are multiple other examples I could probably come up with if you actually need more.Women civil rights activists were shit-testing their men to see if they could pass, they failed. It's a classic example of working for themselves and against the community.
Not all women thought this way. Therefore my comment continues to stand.
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@Dr.Franklin
One man doing something just for himself doesn't prove that all women act for themselvesWomen activists do everything they can to improve their own individual lot, which could include advocating for societal change, which is basically a motivation for feminism.
My bad, guess I wasn't reading my response fully. The correct term I should have been using was, "If I could prove one woman acts for the community and not just themselves, would this be considered incorrect?"
Women activists don't do everything they can to improve their own individual problems. Let me use an example, there were white women who not undergoing any discrimination themselves, fought for people of color. And I would assume there are still white women who speak out against discrimination. So, if they are a person of color why are they speaking out? They are speaking out to improve the conditions of others not themselves. There are multiple other examples I could probably come up with if you actually need more.
Even with my response above, I can agree. There are multiple women activists that do it to improve their situation. But do most or at least some still have the mindset of improving other peoples situations? Yes.
I think this shows your claim "all women act for themselves" is incorrect.
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@RationalMadman
I didn't want this response to take this long..
Based on what you chose as a username and profile picture, I presume you're either a very feminine guy, a woman or genderqueer. The reason I say this is the way you depict men is pretty much as ignorant of internal male politics amongst 'alphas' as what GreyParrot says about both men and women.
As the quote from Ben Johnson says, "curiosity kills the cat".
As of right now I won't confirm my gender. However, i'll say two things, based on my profile picture and username it seems a bit hard to come to that conclusion. As you can see in whiteflame's profile, it features a woman present but as far as I know whiteflame is a male. Secondly, this username is not based off my actual name. Further, how I respond is how I want my identity to be reflected. In this situation I am more feminine than I am masculine. This was by choice. At any time, whenever I choose, I could switch that up real quick. My entire point for commenting on this thread was to cease from only having male point of views. I had no intention of conveying a males viewpoint. Maybe somewhere down the line you will see how likely I am to switch up in certain circumstances.
I have an extremely strong opinion on internal male politics.
Now ill address the last part of your sentence. Are you questioning my knowledge on this topic? I usually trust your judgement, however I can't say I am right now.
What's your point?
Men are extremely complex, there is a reason that the best chess and poker players are generally men or rather non-effeminate women and it isn't lack of opportunity as much as lack of drive towards strategic and tactical things at their apex amongst women. If you think men are that brutish and obvious it tells me you have not experienced much in terms of grown men and the shit they do, men are very different to 'boys' much more so than women are to girls. Men are not as obvious or predictable at all. There's a reason you will never ever, as Dr. Franklin put it, even in a parallel universe find a feminine female equivalent to Hitler just as much as no feminine female equivalent to Voldemort in Harry Potter. The apex of deception and evil, complexity in its most severe form in humanity is almost always masculine. Women can obviously be deceptive as hell but the degree of planning, plotting and absolute disaster that men get off on doing in their most complex and sadistic ways is far beyond what women do and trust me, it's not something men should be proud of.
Honestly I think everyone believes that men can be extremely complex. I can agree that many top chess players or poker players are males. However, really think about why they are the top players. How many women have you seen engage in these games? Many chess players practice from a young age and I think many women don’t find it something they want to pursue. I think both men and women are typical. I don't believe that most men are better chess players (etc) because women are "typical". Men are not always brutish, I can agree with that. However, they can be brutish in many if not most situations. Men can be possessive almost as if stalking like an animal. Men can tend to be extremely aggressive going “feral” like an animal. Not sure if you're questioning my experience because you don't act this way and believe every other man isn't brutish. But as for what you're telling me, it seems like a one-sided or self-centered viewpoint.
That said, with your Harry potter reference you aren’t completely wrong but not completely correct either. I don’t use Wikipedia (and tend to avoid it 99.9% of the time) since it's not the most reliable, however I will be using it for this situation. I'm using this source because I haven’t watched a single of the Harry Potter movies and it seems their description of his personality is reliable. Wikipedia says something along the lines of a raging psychopath and devoid of the normal human responses to human suffering. Women can watch as someone tears themselves apart in front of them one by one without a single emotion. In fact, some even feel pleasure in watching others suffering.
Saying you should or shouldn’t be proud of something completely relies on the standards you set for yourself. On this website you are considered to be sadistic and you even consider yourself sadistic. I would assume you aren’t proud of it? Even if you were to say you aren’t proud of it, you seem like you are.
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@Greyparrot
Still don't think this revolves around a man having the strength of control.
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@RationalMadman
I am fairly confused if you agree or disagree with my comments. Hopefully based on your last comment I am assuming we are both on the same idea.
Usually serial-killer females tend to be more on the rare side. However, yes, I have seen more discipline in female serial killers. Rather than stalking or torturing it seems they use far less tedious tactics such as poison.
I can mostly see where you are coming from, along with agreeing (most) of your comments. Especially your last sentence, it seems the tendency is different from what GP thinks.
As far as talking about survival, having to exploit a male in survival is more predictable than predicting a women. If we are aiming for the more "alpha males" they strive to win rather than hiding and waiting. More head-on head combat. I would presume they would go straight into killing you with no tactical efforts, just their fists, weapons, etc. More leaning towards them being irresponsible. If we are aiming at the more stereotypical (and also somewhat in general) views of women, they would be planning attacks more so less head-on attacks. Both are predictable but in terms of what one will do, men are more predictable. Not knowing what tactic someone might use could be your end in survival.
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@DebateArt.com
Oh, alright. Sounds good.
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@Greyparrot
I think this proves my point, just with the words "nope". I'm unsure why you mentioned this "genetic feature" when it doesn't do anything for talking about a mans strengths.
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@Greyparrot
It's a genetic feature from millions of years of evolution. It's not a strength in modern society.
I see. So is this so-called "genetic feature" actually doing much? If once again, they can't even control themselves around others (male or female).
Also even with this "genetic feature" (which I am not completely sure about), I don't see men having all that much control to be honest.
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@Dr.Franklin
I decided to skim this thread. And wow. I can't tell if this entire thread is men talking with no actual perspective. Bit late on this thread but oh well.
Dr. Franklin,
Every single women do what's best for their individual situation. If men did this then imagine how different history would be.
You honestly make me laugh with this thought process. Every single woman, huh? So if I could prove one male that has done something for their individual situation, lets see, would this be incorrect?
Further, many women do whats best for multiple people's situations. Women activists are a real, they are not just doing it for their own individual situation. They are doing it for the community as well.
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Greyparrot,
Women's strength is deception. Men's strength is control.
I have seen countless men have their strengths as deception. You state that men have control, is that really their strength? I'm more than positively sure that most reported sexual assaults are because of men. Is that really control?
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@DebateArt.com
I agree with ComputerNerd, personalized perks or decoration would add some competitiveness to this website.
If this idea were to be put into action (hopefully), who would be considered as top performers? Top five on the leaderboard?
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@Sir.Lancelot
Oh wow. Even select judges, huh?
Seems fun. Even though I can't vote, i'll be watching the debate.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Oh, alright. Guess I'll be watching out for that debate, if once again it follows through.
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@TWS1405_2
Oh, I see.
I decided to respond another time, being it was my fault how my attuide got across. I didn't mean to sound like a "childish jerk." That said, I apologize. Next time, I'll try to seem a bit more "passive" with my comments. Hopefully, we can start to move past my mistake.
I'll be watching the debate closely and drop a vote. Best of luck to both users.
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@TWS1405_2
You need to insult people to cope with yourself on this website. Baiting others in argument which wasn't at all necessary.
I wasn't in this forum to engage or challenge you in a debate. Once again, which you can't seem to grasp, is because I was interested. In other words, I would be there to vote.
Thanks for the qualification. This will be my last response.
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@TWS1405_2
You continuing shows just how childish you are right now. If its not clear, i'm not even trying to make insults after I made it clear I wasn't here for arguing. I merely was stating my interest in the (possible) debate.
If I just stop responding maybe you'll stop baiting an argument? Hm, maybe.
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@TWS1405_2
Your the one pestering me.
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@TWS1405_2
I could really say the same. Everyother comment is "🙄".
Either way I wasn't trying to write something as an insult.
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@TWS1405_2
Hm.. whatever you would like to say. Seems like you at least tried. Also adding "insults" that apply more towards you than me. At least based on your behavior.
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Alright, now that you're done... Congratulations. You are arguing with the wrong person, I'm not RationalMadMan. Which is obvious from the start. Further, I never had a part in your little baiting for arguments.
I was simply just stating how I would be interested if this debate begins. You seem like you're luring or baiting an argument out of "everyone." However, I prefer to keep it limited, so hopefully, this won't extend.
You should practice on someone else, such as maybe arguing with the right person. That's a great start.
I was going to respond a bit more differently, but as said, I wouldn't like for this to go any further.
I assume you're either going to leave this alone, and it's possible we will most likely headbutt again, or you will continue and make a fool of yourself. It's your choice.
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@Sir.Lancelot
I somewhat agree with your opinion.
Even with the parts I don't, I can understand your viewpoint.
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@TWS1405_2
I didn't say in all his debates or even most. I said he has the ability. You're clearly not reading it throughly.
Keep in mind that I have nothing against you nor want to have anything against you. I'm just stating my opinion on this conversation. Right now, you seem to be doing the same, stating your opinion, but who knows.
Also, I simply need to get my qualification for creating topic forums
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@TWS1405_2
Also speak carefully with your words..
He has the full ability to dominate someone in a debate. I've seen it plenty of times in his debates.
This just makes me laugh.
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@Sir.Lancelot
Seemed like a wrap from the beginning of this conversation...
Possibly we'll be surprised.. not..
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