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As I write this here now, I have just discovered new photos of Hamas recruiting child soldiers and using them. Israel is warning civilians to leave targeted areas, but Hamas has blocked the exit for these people and sent messages telling them to ignore the warnings, because they want these people as meat shields and see their deaths as valuable propaganda, even more valuable than their individual lives.

The people here saying #freepalestine or claiming to support Palestinians are actually supporting Hamas and criticizing attempts of Israel at self defense. A necessary self defense because their existence is at stake.

Anyone who wants to read the Hamas charter and it's goal to oppose all peace deals and settle for nothing less than the eradication of every Jew on the planet.  https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9984-the-hamas-charter

This planet is worse off without the industriousness, and intelligence of the Jewish people. They make up the majority of nobel prizes, were the biggest force behind the Covid19 vaccines that saved us from years of isolation and saved countless lives. The Germans in fact would have probably won WW2 if they were nicer to the Jews, as they also saved the Western world with their creation of the Atomic bomb. Israel is so rich and prosperous because of how great the Jewish people are. They have created a tech hub even greater than Silicon valley and have had financial success despite being in a desert essentially.

Israel is surrounded by enemies and attacked constantly, and yet despite the constant outside threats that would turn  most nations into a police state, they have a Democracy and a great deal of freedom. They are not perfect, far from it. A lot of people use their imperfections on this site to justify the slaughter of civilians by Hamas. For example the civilians at the music festival. I will add that these festivals are not a big thing for conservative people. So they targeted the most likely civilians in Israel to support more rights and freedoms for the people in the Gaza strip and the west bank.

As much as it pains me to say this. Jews are the salt of this Earth, and I am deeply regretful of all the fun I had in the past pushing antisemitic conspiracy theories that recently have been adopted by ideologues on  the left. I guess horse shoe theory is correct.

 If Hamas cared about the Palestinians they wouldn't have attacked Israel or they at least would have waited. Hamas immediately after targeting Israel with terrorist attacks proceeded to ask for a peace deal. Their strategy prior to this attack as proven by Israeli spies was to feign like they wanted peace and was merely concerned with improving the economy of Gaza. You see, Hamas just uses peace to prepare for the next attack, it isn't their main goal. We can just perform a mental exercise to see which side wants peace. We all know that tomorrow if every nation hostile to Israel threw every weapon it had in the trash, they would still be safe from an attack from Israel. However if Israel were to lay down it's weapons, every single Jew and loyal Palestinian in Israel would be dead the next day.

Think about this. Hamas attacked an enemy that had control of their water supply, that has control of their electric grid and who ensures they have food and who has vastly superior fire power. That doesn't sound like an attack by Hamas would be good for residents of Gaza. It's because they actually don't give a shit about their people. This is pretty common with radical Islam. The leader of Iran once said that if the destruction of Iran lead to the annihilation of Jews and the success of an Islamic state than it would have been worth it. Thank God that Stuxnet destroyed their nuclear capabilities.

Its terrible that the Stalingrad approach to attacking Hamas is the most humane. It's a terrible option, but it leaves less civilians dead than by eradicating Hamas in any other way. They are dug in and are using their own people as hostages, hopefully a safe zone can be created soon and ways to funnel civilians out of dangerous territories can be improved, but currently hamas is asking residents to stay and closing down exit routes. This isn't an organization that cares about the well being of Gaza residents.

The free Palestine movement is more successful now than it should be. The reason is simple. There is a massive propaganda campaign on the west that is very successful. If any of you are on tiktok, X or youtube a lot. Al jazeera now AJ+ has been there targeting leftists to support Palestine. They are creating stories criticizing the west for being anti immigration for example but also they are pretending to be woke on topics like homosexuality, transgenderism etc.  Meanwhile they are the propaganda arm of radical Islam who would stone a homosexual to death for being in love with a person of the same sex. Billions are funneled from state actors to AJ+ to propagandize Americans because they know we do have influence over what our elected leaders do.

There is a simple reason leftists are vulnerable to this type of propaganda. There has been this mindset in the left that is often exposed once you can see contradictions within it that shouldn't exist unless the mindset was the main engine behind their beliefs.

The left mostly thinks that anything big and powerful is an oppressor by default.  Anybody weak is oppressed by default. Just examine the following things

Black people have a weaker position in society and are therefore oppressed, which makes white people their oppressors. Even when a black person is committing huge crimes they are only doing so because they are oppressed and a product of their environment. Meanwhile the police, a powerful institution is always the bad guy in any interaction where any incident where a black person gets shot. Yes police shoot more white people, even unarmed white people than black people, but this is never brought up because it is oppressor on oppressor violence so justified.

The mostly peaceful BLM riots. Looting was excused because the people looting were oppressed. This is how complicated their underlying thought process is. If a group is weaker they are oppressed, and if they are oppressed it justifies any action they want to take. Loot a store, no big deal you are oppressed. Kill 250 people at a music festival, that is okay because you are oppressed.

This is what first shocked me about the antisemitism of the left. I realize now they moved from being pro Israel to anti Israel because their view of Israel changed from seeing them as weak to seeing them as strong, thus they automatically become an oppressor. Ignore the fact that Palestinians are actually over represented in fields like medicine in Israel.

There is honestly less antisemitism on the right than the less now, despite the further right you get the more you see. Trump isn't so much a right winger as he is a populist though. Here is something a lot of liberals get wrong about Trump voters though. They don't agree with Trump on a lot of things. Trump is pro mask and very pro vaccine though he pushed against federal mandates around these issues, meanwhile his voters are antagonistic towards masks and vaccines. Trump is also very pro Israel and likely would support American military intervention in Israel, meanwhile his voters would prefer isolationism in this instance. Even Ukraine there is a split where his voters want to stop supporting the Ukraine, this is why Trump's messaging is meant to appeal to them. Trump when he mentions negotiating with Russia and Ukraine to end that war, he really means threatening Putin but being willing to make some concessions to get a favorable negotiation outcome. So keep that in mind while I criticize the average Trump voter who wants the U.S. out of foreign entanglements.

This is not like the Ukraine where the benefits to the U.S. are harder to see because of a complicated foreign policy and bad advertisement of how important the lands in Ukraine are to the global order due to trade routes, oil etc.  Israel is being targeted because it is the most Jewish country on the planet. The United States has the second biggest Jewish population on the planet. If Israel is ever defeated, there will be more 9-11 type events and they will occur with regular frequency. The success of Israel is of utmost importance to the United States.

If Israel ever falls than the United States is next. Israel will also use the Samson option if they are destroyed. That is their right and it means nukes will overwhelm Moscow and likely set off a chain reaction where Russia fires nukes in every direction because they won't just assume it came from Israel. A nuke heading towards the United States is very much a national security concern.

George Bush was not wrong that a war in Iraq would create a lightning rod for radical Islam and keep attacks from happening elsewhere. Israel is also that lightning rod. If we can keep the terrorists occupied by Israel, by ensuring the security of Israel, than the United States can continue to have a lightning rod for Jihadis not situated in it's vulnerable areas.

I quit. This site is a cesspool of filth and idiots. It's just not a good use of my time to be here. I can debate people who are more intelligent elsewhere. People who can actually challenge my beliefs well enough to change them. I can go elsewhere and see less support for terrorist organizations. It's where I draw the line. Make an argument for whatever controversial position you want, but it goes beyond that here. You guys are literally apologists for Hamas. If you guys want to straighten out and be blessed by my presence again, maybe elect me to the HOF or presidency and I will try again for like 3 months to see where we are. Other than that I am most likely done with the site. I do see space for a new debate site which can maybe give an IQ test to people before they are allowed to join or something like that, but I am most likely done with DART permanently. You can all go fuck yourselves TBH.

stfu jew

stfu jew

There goes the dick sucker.

If the Jews or the Muslims were able to rule the world. The rest of us would be treated like sub human scum if either were to rule the world. They both should be wiped off the earth. There is no difference in either of them to me as a non Jew /non Muslim. They both think of me as sub human scum.

They aren't the subject and don't consider their fellow man sub human.  Now they are just  social flaming hypocrites. So ya, they are bad to. But not like Jews and Muslims.

Most Christians do consider devil worshippers as sub human.

Also, I am pretty sure Christians usually have this feeling that they are better than anyone else, when in fact they are just delusional.

"Christians usually have this feeling that they are better than anyone else, when in fact they are just delusional".  Yes, just like Muslims and Jews. Which is why I reject all religions as a viable  ruling entity. Although all religions poses smatterings of wisdom to live by.  All people everywhere agree with some tenants of all religions. Religions are subject to the same  "absolute power absolutely corrupts"  as any non religious cults or ideologies. That is why I don't subscribe to any religion or ideology and would never claim to support or be part of any of them. People do the right thing or they don't  in any given situation. You can debate that from your perspective till the cows come home, someone will always disagree no matter what you do. The world for me is, I am damned if I do and damned if I don't.  So if you want to judge me, go fuck yourself. You are just as much as a worthless pile of shit as everyone else. Now you might say I am acting just like them, not true. I don't judge a man until he gives me cause. Ideologies and religions judge a mans worth  at birth.

I am not judging anyone, although sometimes it seems so.

You just judged Christians. LOL  A person who follows an Ideology, cult or religion and tells me that  if I don't follow it too and says I am less than them if I don't, they give me cause to judge them, which I do very very very very very harshly.

Hey, there is no point in telling the truth

when living in delusion makes us feel better.

I prefer to live in delusion. Fuck the truth.

You give me cause.

Well umm okay, but... so yeah.

It's very tempting to wipe them from the planet and believe that will solve our problems. The average right wing leader is aware of the terrible things brought upon innoce t people from the ideals of leftists, the typical midwit Jew that promotes the ideals of leftism which is extremely harmful. 

If we only slaughter the left or give them free helicopter rides it will solve the problems their subversive ideals cause and help us avoid becoming north korea or Venezuala and we can become a well functioning predominantly white state like Norway and Sweden. 

I think God put us on earth to instead protect the left from their own stupidity. Yes despite leftism bringing a bunch of Muslims to America who can propagandize Americans to be pro hamas. Despite that leftist Jews basically created BLM and are too stupid to realize that black nationalists gravitate towards people like Louis farakhan and are anti Semitic. Despite the fact these stupid left leaning Jews have sewn the seeds of their own destruction. Despite the fact that they are still going to continue digging their own grave by voting for Biden by a large majority, we should still be the bigger people and save them. 

They don’t deserve political power due to their suicidal tendencies, but they do deserve for us to save them

A real man provides for his family, even if they resent him for it. https://youtu.be/9-eQU4kw4Q4?si=uMloUSizQkp9IO9T

"I think God put us on earth to instead protect the left from their own stupidity."  I don't think the creator has the slightest interest in the outcomes of its creations, let alone the infantile bickering of ideologs, cults and religions. The only people worth living are those who leave other people the fuck alone and let them go about their business to eek out a living.

Leftists control the media. So leftists control everything. You cannot win.

"Leftists control the media." which begs the question, "Why do people watch and listen to what the media says?" 

Media will control you if allow it to.

People cant think outside of the box. 

Thats been proven many times.

Thats why whatever the media tells, people believe.

What do believe? I personally don't believe much of anything I am told by anyone at the time I am told something. I wait and time usually proves the validity. Take the pandemic BS for instance. 95% of what I was told turned out to be complete BS.

Still, we got vaccines.

Now we are infected.

I  bet Anti-vaccine Daystar televangelist Marcus Lamb wishes he had gotten the vaccine.

Would require a dissertation to answer that comment fully.

Nonetheless, I suppose that we are all boxed by the circumstances of our lives...Though not necessarily the same box.

Probably our own individual boxes. 

Boxes that we have become programmed and accustomed to thinking in.

And boxes that will always grow to accommodate ongoing modifications.

Media is undoubtedly a major influencer...Though certainly not the box itself.

I would suggest that the basis of the box is founded in our formative years.

He probably thought that God will protect him from Covid. He read about all those magical healings in the Bible and he fell for it. It was a lie.

"The largest study yet on the therapeutic power of prayer by strangers has found that it provided no benefit to the recovery of patients who had undergone cardiac bypass surgery.
In an unexpected twist, patients who knew prayers were being said for them had more complications after surgery than those who did not know, researchers reported Thursday."

Speak for your self, I never got that experimental BS injected in me. I waited to see if it did what was advertised. It didn't. It killed a lot of people who otherwise would still be alive today. I had a 99.6% chance of surviving Covid without taking the vaccine in the first place. I often wonder if people who took the vaccine even considered that or just ate up the fear their TV's fed to them.

Well.

I tried to equate your statistics to global statistics...And I failed.

And "It killed a lot of people" is extremely speculative.

Nonetheless:

Overall, there is a small percentage risk of death from Covid infection.

Though risk of death is higher relative to age and health status at time of infection. 

Nonetheless:

The number of Covid related deaths in the USA isn't insignificant. Whereas, presumed vaccination related deaths are far less significant.

And so:

Conspiracy theory aside, then vaccination is still prudent.

Personally:

I have had 3 vaccinations and I have also contracted Covid. 

I have not experienced any side effects or long term effects from either vaccination or infection.

And like you, I can only speculate upon alternative scenarios.

Nonetheless:

I would suggest that the global response to potential risks at the time and ongoing  was and is not BS.

7000000 deaths, although comparatively low was not individually insignificant.

And finally:

Statistics show that an unvaccinated person is more likely to suffer serious long term effects or death from Covid infection. This is also not BS.

Stay safe.

"I have had 3 vaccinations and I have also contracted Covid. "    I am flabbergasted, I am surprised you aren't. I've never had covid and if I did I didn't know it. Plus I am old. On a side note what ever happened to the Flu? Did the covid vaccine cure it?

A personalized mRNA vaccine against pancreatic cancer created a strong anti-tumor immune response in half the participants in a small study. The vaccine will soon be tested in a larger clinical trial. The approach may also have potential for treating other deadly cancer types.