Which moral values should take precedence in Israel's response to Hamas?

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Only a coward doesnt fight against the oppressor.
Palestinians are oppressed by hamas. You see what hamas did and now the Israelites will use the Stalingrad option to preserve lives because despite being ugly it saves more lives than a ground invasion would. 

Did you know Ghandi fought against oppressors in a peaceful way?

Did you know MLK was a huge factor in desegregation and fought oppressors in a peaceful way?

I am not going to say violence is uncalled for, but millions of Israelite Jews thought of Palestinians as oppressed also and were fighting to help them. 

The musical festival of civilians Hamas targeted was full of mostly left wing Jews. The exact type of people who would be fighting for Palestinians. 

Hamas attacked the people most likely to help them because peace or help is not what they want.  It is in the original  Harter of Hamas. They want Israel exterminated. 
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Both sides claim an element of self-defense to their actions. And while both are at least kind of correct in the macro-sense, none of Hamas's actions this past week can be justified.

These terrorist attacks did nothing to further the cause of Palestinian self-defense; if anything, their lives are about to get a thousand times harder as the Israeli army invades their homes. Hamas indiscriminately beheaded babies when this would have no bearing on the ultimate outcome they hope to achieve (if anything, it was counterproductive). It was killing for the sake of killing.
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These terrorist attacks did nothing to further the cause of Palestinian self-defense; if anything, their lives are about to get a thousand times harder as the Israeli army invades their homes. Hamas indiscriminately beheaded babies when this would have no bearing on the ultimate outcome they hope to achieve (if anything, it was counterproductive). It was killing for the sake of killing.
Deep down I think palestinians deserve any response Israel will carry out because they voted for Hamas in the past elections. If you noticed, palestinians around the world applauded the Hamas' insane attack, so I believe this should be considered as a factor that the OP was refering to for killing people. "Each country has the government it deserves" - Winston Churchill.

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Друзья, я хочу вам сказать, что когда речь идет о войнах и ответе на конфликты, мы прежде всего должны знать, что говорит нам Библия.
Библия подчеркивает важность моральных ценностей, которые должны иметь приоритет для нас, как последователей Христа.
Прежде всего, Библия учит нас о ценности жизни и важности сохранения ее. Десять заповедей, которые Бог дал Израилю, включают заповедь "не убий", что указывает на неприемлемость убийства и насилия (Исход 20:13). Иисус также призывает нас любить своих врагов и молиться за тех, кто преследует нас (Матфея 5:44). Библия  учит нас о значимости мира и справедливости между народами. Послание к Римлянам говорит: 19 Итак, будем искать того, что служит к миру и ко взаимному назиданию. Послание к Римлянам 14 глава — Библия: https://bible.by/syn/52/14/. В Притчах Соломона говорится: 21 Если голоден враг твой, накорми его хлебом; и если он жаждет, напои его водою: Притчи 25 глава — Библия: https://bible.by/syn/20/25/. Библия призывает нас к поступкам милосердия и сострадания, даже в отношении тех, кто может быть нашим врагом. Мы живем в последние времена и знаем, что Бог явится в конце времен для окончательного суда и установления своего Царства. Библия  призывает нас быть готовыми к пришествию Господа, жить в святости и служить Ему, пока мы ждем Его второго пришествия. Иисус говорит: "Итак, бодрствуйте, ибо не знаете, когда придет ваш Господь" (Марка 13:35). Наша задача - быть верными учениками Христа, распространять Его любовь и истину в мире.