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Not relevantbto a woman's right to choose
The key to victory in 2024 for the democrats lies in abortion
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@Greyparrot
Republicans will not be voting for abortion with am election coming up next year
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@Greyparrot
Presumably it would be codifying Roe. Overturning it was extremely unpopular so there seems to be some level of agreement there. But you will never get everyone, potentially even a majority to agree on exactly where the line should be.
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@HistoryBuff
According to my poll, there's a narrow window of bipartisan consensus within a specific framework.
The real question is if politicians are willing to piss a few people off bigly to get something done for the majority. Like, it's OK to tell the abortion on demand through the 3rd trimester crowd to take a back seat.
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@Vegasgiants
Not relevantbto (sic) a woman's right to choose
However the woman is only one of many parties that need to weigh in.
Let's be clear. I do not support the notion that there should be NO abortions, nor do I support the notion that ALL abortions should be allowed.
It's a complicated matter. The "truth is out there " but America lacks the maturity to grasp it.
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@Greyparrot
Let's see it.
C'mon Man.
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@FLRW
fed fed fed
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I don't care what you support
The key to democrats winning in 2024 lies in hammering home what the gop did to abortion rights
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@Greyparrot
Like, it's OK to tell the abortion on demand through the 3rd trimester crowd to take a back seat.
I don't think there are very many, if any, people who want an abortion to be an option like the day before the due date. So you may be making a straw man argument. I won't go so far as to say no one believes that, but they would be a tiny minority.
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@HistoryBuff
I don't think there are very many, if any, people who want an abortion to be an option like the day before the due date...
My poll showed 19% of people want this. What you think with your sample size of one doesn't match up with the pew poll.
Nice statistical source with a sample size of one.
This source isn’t a poll.
You claimed one of the 4 main camps on abortion want abortions at 9 months. That a lie. There is no such camp. Late term abortions are typically for fetuses that are deformed and unlikely to live once born.
My poll showed 19% of people want this
That’s nonsense. People only want that option for fetuses that can’t live on their own.
Your source: “the poll finds many Americans believe that the procedure should be allowable under at least some circumstances even during the second or third trimesters.
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@Vegasgiants
Trump and DeSantis will need to go right wing to get the nomination. The democrats can hammer them over abortion laws. It was a huge factor in the last election and will be again in 2024
No doubt the GOP blew it on abortion, but they still have big issues to campaign on, Mr. Potatohead, football players taking a knee, toilets you have to flush ten times, and OMG, the race of the little mermaid.
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@HistoryBuff
Like, it's OK to tell the abortion on demand through the 3rd trimester crowd to take a back seat.I don't think there are very many, if any, people who want an abortion to be an option like the day before the due date. So you may be making a straw man argument. I won't go so far as to say no one believes that, but they would be a tiny minority.
For a lot of the folks on this board, I support abortion up to the age of 40.
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@Vegasgiants
The key to democrats winning in 2024 lies in hammering home what the gop did to abortion rights
Only if voters are so narrow minded that they vote on a single issue.
The economy, national defense, tax policy, crime , law enforcement, education, foreign policy, and immigration will also factor in.
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The midterms gave us a clear picture
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@Vegasgiants
That poll had 15% say abortion is their top concern. Since the poll was just taken on the heels of the Roe decision, it's likely that 15% is the ceiling for Abortion concerns. Meaning, it won't matter as much if people are upset with the economy in 2024.
But, I suppose a targeted propaganda campaign funded by big lobbies might change that. Pay to play as usual.
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@Greyparrot
And the polls said Hillary would be president
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@Vegasgiants
Pay to play polls. Sure.
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@Greyparrot
Nope. The polls were wrong. That is well established
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@Vegasgiants
So are polls with a sample size of one.
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@Greyparrot
Good so we agree polls are meaningless
I offered my opinion and you have offered yours
You offered me a poll with the sample size of one.
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@Greyparrot
And you offered a poll and we agreed polls can be wrong
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@Vegasgiants
So your poll with a sample size of one is wrong. OK.
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@Greyparrot
So your poll is wrong. Thanks
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@Vegasgiants
I never claimed that. I claimed pay to play polls are often wrong.
But I also do agree with you that your poll with a sample size of 1 is wrong.
We can delve into the orders of magnitude of wrongness if you want to find a disagreement.
And you are welcome.
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@Greyparrot
Yes your poll is wrong. I agree
A poll with a sample size of one is inherently unreliable and cannot be considered a valid representation of a population. The reason why we conduct a poll is to gather data from a sufficiently representative sample to make inferences about the larger population. A sample size of one does not meet even the most basic requirements of statistical sampling and cannot provide any meaningful or reliable information.
here are some common reasons why your sample of one isn't as valid:
- A single individual cannot represent the diversity and characteristics of an entire population. A proper sample reflects the demographics, opinions, and characteristics of the population being studied. A single person's perspective isn't able capture the vast range of opinions and variation present in a larger population.
- Sampling error refers to the variability that naturally occurs when taking a sample from a population. With a sample size of one, there is no possibility of measuring or accounting for sampling error since there is no variation or multiple observations to compare. The lack of multiple data points makes it impossible to estimate the level of confidence or margin of error in the results. As a result, even the margin of error is invalid as it is incalculable.
- Reliable conclusions are based on data that can be independently verified and replicated. A single observation cannot be verified or cross-checked by other researchers, making it highly susceptible to bias, random chance, or individual idiosyncrasies, or just plain incoherence.
A sample size that is generally accepted as statistically sufficient, and is more representative of the population, and also allows for estimation of an actual sampling error is far more reliable within the margins of error than your sample size of one. Larger sample sizes increase the reliability of the findings and allow for better statistical analysis and more accurate inference of the general population within smaller margins of error.
Hillary's pay to play polls were also within the calculated margin of error and accurately predicted her popular vote victory. The fact that analysts were using popular vote to extrapolate an electorate victory was not the fault of the polls.
Agree?
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I don't see the lie by democrats. Quote them