Chauvinistic Democrat Store Owner Cancels Female Singer's Gig Over Politics, Calls Her A Porn Model

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Howie Carr Show (Original Source):
Tefft, a graduate of Berklee College of Music in 2015, recently moved to Nashville to pursue her career in music. A Cape Cod native, Tefft still sees Massachusetts as her home. She’s been called a “phenomenon” by the Boston Globe and was also praised by Matty in the Morning on Kiss 108. 

But after singing the national anthem at an event hosted by a certain former president, Carly Tefft’s performances were cancelled at Harvest Gallery in Dennis, MA. Her presence was called “threatening” and her name on the live music schedule was likened to lewd art.

Daily Mail (Right Wing):
A restaurant in Cape Cod allegedly canceled performances from rising country music star Carly Teftt after she sang the national anthem at a Donald Trump rally in April. 

Earlier this week, Tefft spoke with radio host Howie Carr after she received a call from the owner of Harvest Gallery - a restaurant and bar in Dennis, Massachusetts that features art and music - who told her he was canceling her future appearances at the venue due to 'controversy.' 

'He thought that his customer base would feel - he used a very specific word - threatened,' she said.

I couldn't find a left-wing source on this...
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I couldn't find a left-wing source on this...
The restaurant owner it seems.
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Restaurant owners choice.

Best they find a replacement democratic singer.

There's bound to be one.

I'm sure that Ms Tefft will find other places to perform.


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I think, the way the law currently works, it's nobody's choice to violate civil liberties over political preference. I.E. you can't kick someone out of your establishment over politics. Though I could be mistaken.

Personally, I think it is a violation of the agreement made between the two parties and causes unjust harm onto one party by backing out of a deal for no harmful reason.
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I'm sure that the sum of millions of similar decisions will be the geographical and economic separation of the nation by political tribes.

Once that happens political separation by some means becomes inevitable.
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I think, the way the law currently works, it's nobody's choice to violate civil liberties over political preference. I.E. you can't kick someone out of your establishment over politics. Though I could be mistaken.
You are. Political identity is not a protected class nor should it ever be.
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Protected classes are arbitrary and not enumerated.
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Statute?
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Federal law in the U.S. indeed says businesses have a right to refuse service to anyone. Here’s the catch: They can refuse service unless the company is discriminating against a particular class under federal, state, or local law.
Thanks to federal laws like the Federal Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Americans with Disabilities Act, no state that serves the public can discriminate based on:
  • Race or color
  • National origin or citizenship status
  • Religion or creed
  • Sex
  • Age
  • Disability, pregnancy, or genetic information
  • Veteran status
These laws cover “places of public accommodation”—private businesses that regularly invite the public into their establishments. That includes places like restaurants, bars, hotels, stores, theaters, and banks.

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I was wrong via overstatement. There have been enumerations. Corrected claim:

Courts have fabricated protected classes that were not enumerated in the civil rights act or the constitution such as sexual orientation.

There is a fundamental subjectivity in distinguishing "creed or religion" from any other pattern of belief or behavior.
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That wasn't a statute though...

While you're right that, generally, political speech isn't protected, if you are fired for your political views, there's many state and local laws that prohibit your boss from doing so in many situations and you can file a lawsuit.

There's also First Amendment case law to consider.
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And why does the restaurant owners decision necessarily make them a chauvinist.

I would suggest that agitator inspired  media makes sensational mountains out of mole hills.

If media didn't feed this crap to the masses no one would give a f**k.
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I assumed it was a paradoy of the transparent (to intelligent people) pattern of the left-tribe propaganda machine to affix onto any report or story some claim of group conflict especially where a so called victim group is once again abused.

Restaurant owner reneged on a woman? Must be a chauvinist.

Now of course that isn't the propaganda machine narrative, because right-tribers are not privileged enough to be the victim of the hour.
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because right-tribers are not privileged enough to be the victim of the hour.
Is that a joke? Today's right wing politics is entirely based on victimhood.
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Well not entirely, there's also a lot of bigotry mixed in
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Being a porn  model is objectively biologically wrong western society just makes it look normal even though they know it
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because right-tribers are not privileged enough to be the victim of the hour.
Is that a joke? Today's right wing politics is entirely based on victimhood.
You're confusing two different quantities.

There is whether a tribe thinks they've been wronged (they always do, if they didn't there wouldn't be conflict).

Then there is whether the left-tribe propaganda machine equally applies coherent criteria for collective victim-hood, which they don't.

The difference between the victimhood narrative of the right-tribe and the victimhood narrative of the left-tribe is that the right tribe's victimhood narrative is based on facts.

The victimhood narrative of the right-tribe in this case is: She was victimized because of her politics. The evidence supports this.

If she was a left-triber and discriminated against because of politics the left-tribe propaganda machine would say: chauvinist.... or racist, or something absurd without a shred of evidence behind it.

The right-tribe understands what's going on. It's a factional conflict between world views and moral theories. The right understands that if a black woman believes in liberty she's on 'our' side. The right-tribe doesn't experience cognitive dissonance when they see a white "country boy" on the democratic ticket (it happens a lot). They don't call him the white face of black supremacy.

The left-tribe by contrast is in a state of constant self-delusion. They don't see, and won't allow themselves to see an ideological conflict. It's a racial conflict they want to see, and they ignore anything that doesn't fit. It's a sexist conflict they want to see, they ignore anything that doesn't fit. It's bigotry against sexual deviancy that they want to see, they ignore anything that doesn't fit (Dave Rubin).
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I wonder if the store owner is going to be sued for refusing to hire someone based on their own moral beliefs. Lets not have any double standards on this. Condemn the store owner and put them out of business using the courts and power of govt.
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The right-tribe understands what's going on.
I agree with much if what you said, but I believe neither side is truly a victim of some systemic system... yet.

The right is free to do everything the left is. Just look at Bud Light. Their sales STILL haven't recovered and they "apologized" for their "sin."

But I do agree that there is much more of an oppressive force on the left than on the right. Just the ESG climate 100+ organization that consists of the largest companies in the world makes it extremely difficult to get hired in MOST places if your politics doesn't add up to a quasi-socialist, rights-hating, racist, anti-Christian bigot.

And with doxxing being the "in" thing on the Left these days, even if you've somehow managed to keep your opinions below their radar, and you haven't hurt anybody, it doesn't matter. They'll dox you and ruin your reputation with a bunch of spurious allegations (Covington Boys, for instance) to try to force you to fall in line.

There's nothing at all racist with loving America, for instance. America is no worse than many other empires of old as far as atrocities go. Like, if Nelson Mandela, who literally committed mass genocide, is allowed to be revered and respected, then why is it so wrong to like Thomas Jefferson, who drafted docimentation against slavery?

But the 1619 Project labels you a racist for loving America, for reasons that are quite illogical. This is just one example, there's hundreds more.

I'm not saying the right-tribe DOESN'T do these things. They certainly do (all the recent book bannings and drag queen event bannings, for example). But the complex on the left is significantly, by orders of magnitude, more powerful and encompassing than on the right (having activist judges that issue instantaneous injunctions against these bans, for instance).

But nobody is truly a helpless victim, either. If Kanye West, who literally became a living Dave Chappelle skit (the black white supremacist), can rebuild his finances, and people forgave him and just went right back to reporting on him as if nothing changed, then NOBODY is a helpless victim in America.

If you're liberal, you have the ACLU, NAACP, CAIR, and other legal outfits. If you're conservative you have the ACLJ, First Liberty, and TPUSA. On the legal battleground it's honestly pretty even right now.

Anyways, I'll let someone else use the soapbox for a bit now lol.
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The right is free to do everything the left is. Just look at Bud Light. Their sales STILL haven't recovered and they "apologized" for their "sin."
The right tribe is free to try, but we're always free to try.

Due to institutional capture (universities, government agencies, large corporations, etc...) there is an enormous zone of suppression where voicing opposition to the adoption of left-tribe agenda in purportedly non-political enterprise is punished, severely if necessary.

Without this zone of suppression and the propaganda machine (it wears the skin of a now destroyed free press) the left-tribe wouldn't have a chance in hell.

There are asymmetries and budlight shows them quite well. Left-tribe attack comes from institutional capture, they put people in high places. The company create a DEI office as a matter of course.

The counterattack, and this is new that the right-tribe has begun direct counter-attacks outside of the political sphere; came from the general population. That's why they call it populism.


But I do agree that there is much more of an oppressive force on the left than on the right. Just the ESG climate 100+ organization that consists of the largest companies in the world makes it extremely difficult to get hired in MOST places if your politics doesn't add up to a quasi-socialist, rights-hating, racist, anti-Christian bigot.
Exactly.


And with doxxing being the "in" thing on the Left these days, even if you've somehow managed to keep your opinions below their radar, and you haven't hurt anybody, it doesn't matter. They'll dox you and ruin your reputation with a bunch of spurious allegations (Covington Boys, for instance) to try to force you to fall in line.
Which is why any attempt to destroy ring encryption systems like cryptocurrency or Tor are a red-line issue with me. Although I respect the defiance of the gun-collecting crowd they can be unfortunately naive when accounting for the full scope of the conflict.

Without communications there is no resistance, no coherence, no truth. Look at what they do with Trump, everyone around him, and anyone trying to actually behave like a journalist should.

If they can ID everyone they can cut off any corrections. They can deep fake somebody raping children. They can pick out the rising leaders of opposition and smear them into oblivion one by one.

All good and well, just don't trust what you read online right? Yet how will you know to act without information?


America is no worse than many other empires of old as far as atrocities go.
America was barely an empire, a loose element of America was imperialistic for like 40 years.

The UK was an empire, and it was the most moral empire in history.

"Imperialism" and "Empire" are perfect examples of what happens to a word when you let people overuse it. It becomes watered down and meaningless. Empire is when an army shows up, demands taxes and the dismantling of local military, and kills anyone who disagrees.

The USA planned and executed no genocides and is one of the very few nations in history that was in the position to annex large amounts of territory and choose not to on moral grounds.

The USA's mid to early history is far less evil (by comparison) than is claimed by the left-tribe while its modern government and recent history is far more evil than claimed.

They certainly do (all the recent book bannings and drag queen event bannings, for example).
All I've seen is banning of porn delivered to children, which was theoretically illegal before they simply didn't want to enforce it.

Now the way the right-tribe obtusely pretends to be unable to differentiate between a pedophile grooming a child to have sex with and a left-tribe cultist indoctrinating a child is reminiscent of the knee-jerk "racist" screams.

Even Tim Pool is doing it now, very unfortunate.


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Due to institutional capture (universities, government agencies, large corporations, etc...) there is an enormous zone of suppression
There's plenty of conservative universities with top-tier programs in many fields. For law there's Regent University. For political training there's Hillsdale, there's at least 70 conservative colleges.

Some are quite respected, too. Such as Hillsdale (ranked 48), Wheaton College (ranked 63), Grove City College (top 5 for their region), Biola University (ranked 174), Samford University (124), and many other great schools.

There's also no shortage of conservative jobs from conservative job owners. And anyone is free to start their own business. Plus, in many cities, the local and even county government is conservative-leaning so conservatives are welcomed.

In Federal Government, you are not allowed to be fired over your political beliefs or expression of them outside of work hours. It is illegal, and lawsuits have been won over it.

It's really not as bad as Conservatives tend to think it is, but it's still pretty bad compared to 10 years ago. 10 years ago liberals were more tolerant and less bigoted. They had strong libertarian views and hated totalitarianism on average. Now most of them are completely fine with banning everything they don't like, even if it means getting rid of people's rights.
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The term "creed" as a justification for a protected class could most certainly be interpreted broadly.
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There's plenty of conservative universities with top-tier programs in many fields
One can go find a safe space but that does not mean they have a significant influence over the culture in general.

If you have to add "conservative" or "not controlled by neomarxist race baiting cultists" to your feature list when searching for a job or a university that means there is a problem.


In Federal Government, you are not allowed to be fired over your political beliefs or expression of them outside of work hours. It is illegal, and lawsuits have been won over it.
Legal fiction. You can and will be fired, they are quite capable of making up some excuse. A left-tribe judge or jury will never take your side, and locales with large public sectors are always left-tribe because that is what the government prefers.

A self-reinforcing cycle, which is why people are being thrown in jail for 20 years for protesting against the left-tribe in DC while protesting against the right-tribe with greater violence did not even result in charges.


It's really not as bad as Conservatives tend to think it is
Then you step out of the closet (or pretend to) in NYC, LA, DC, etc...


10 years ago liberals were more tolerant and less bigoted.
Liberals (like me) are still tolerant, as in true believers in free speech and open debate.

What I've learned is that liberals were fleas that generally attached themselves to the left-tribe for various reasons. There aren't any liberals in the left-tribe anymore.

The tribes are not principled, they are puppets of corruption (the military industrial complex).

When the democratic party opposed the war in Iraq they were controlled opposition run by the deep state to attract and neutralize liberals and peace-lovers.

Now the democratic party starts, joins, and supports wars. The deep state needs the republican party to be controlled opposition to serve the same role, but people like Trump stand in the way.

The deep state uses the apparatus of federal police, intelligence agencies, through large media corporations to take ideological conflicts with independent existence and amplify them provided they have no chance of interfering with the continued theft of wealth from the American people (and the people of the world).

Now I'm rambling I know, but it's very important to understand this. It's not that people are changing, if they seem to change it is only because they had no principles to start with. Sheeple.

It's not that the moral conflicts are fake (like trans indoctrination or police brutality). They are real, but objectivity and solutions are being intentionally excluded to make these issues impossible to find consensus on.

Meanwhile there are more important moral issues that are not permitted to become mainstream; such as global peace and reducing spending.

Look at the actions of congress and it's as obvious as the dawn. They all agree on one thing and one thing alone: Do not interrupt the military spending


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If you have to add "conservative" or "not controlled by neomarxist race baiting cultists" to your feature list when searching for a job or a university that means there is a problem.
I agree. My point was simply that conservatives can still find high-paying jobs without sacrificing their beliefs. I do think this country has a cult problem. The cult of liberal or conservative is really beginning to take its toll on the country's overall health.

You can and will be fired, they are quite capable of making up some excuse.
The federal government has to conduct a multi-month review before they fire you. So even if you do get fired, they basically let you know 3 months in advance anyways, since you can literslly get out of being fired if they fail to let you know of this review process, as I understand it.

And I have known open conservatives in Federal Government who are not fired for their political views. It's really not what the media says it is.

Then you step out of the closet (or pretend to) in NYC, LA, DC, etc...

The SAME THING happens to Democrats who "step out of the closet" in Conservative areas.

There aren't any liberals in the left-tribe anymore.
Could be. I never thought about it until now. You make a good point.

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because right-tribers are not privileged enough to be the victim of the hour.
Is that a joke? Today's right wing politics is entirely based on victimhood.
You're confusing two different quantities.
No, I'm calling you out for making an absurd statement. I didn't argue that there is no victimization in left wing politics, I am responding to you claiming right tribers are not "privileged enough" to assert such nonsense while ignoring that victimization is the core motivator of right wing politics.

If you want an example of this look no further than the response to the leading candidate for the republican nomination getting indicted on federal charges. In a sane world this would have ended his political career, but to the political right it's all a deep state conspiracy against conservatives, so instead his poll numbers go up.

Everything on the right is like this. A bunch of right wing extremists get banned on Twitter for violent rhetoric and the narrative is that conservatives are being silenced. A bunch of right wing extremists get arrested and charged for breaking into the US capitol and the narrative is that they are being persecuted. A bunch of gays hold up a flag showing pride and right wingers think it's all a plot to corrupt their children.

There is a reason they keep repeating the ridiculous line that "if they can do this to Trump they will come after you next", because it works. Fear and victimization are the core tenants of right wing politics.

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because right-tribers are not privileged enough to be the victim of the hour.
Is that a joke? Today's right wing politics is entirely based on victimhood.
You're confusing two different quantities.
I am responding to you claiming right tribers are not "privileged enough" to assert such nonsense while ignoring that victimization is the core motivator of right wing politics.
My statement was not about motivation, but phenomenon.

The propaganda machine which continues to be the mainstream culture of the uninformed never applies the same victimhood criteria to right-tribers as it does to left-tribers.

They have double standards, much like yourself. At every turn with relative probabilities the odds are ever in the favor of the left-tribe victim narrative.

Culminating in Larry Elder being called the black face of white supremacy while George Floyd (who killed himself with drugs) becomes a victim of racism (somehow).


If you want an example of this look no further than the response to the leading candidate for the republican nomination getting indicted on federal charges.
Look at the response by the propaganda machine and you will see I am correct. They don't blink an eye at the obvious unequal application of the law.

Trump is the victim of the hour by objective measures, but because he is right-tribe (the dangerous part of the right-tribe actually) he doesn't get to be a victim (according to what the uninformed normies see).


Fear and victimization are the core tenants of right wing politics.
Yes, but they are realistic fears with actual victims instead of collectivist double-think.

Despite the objective reality of their claims they are not privileged (by the left-tribe propaganda machine which includes all traditional institutional sources of information) to be victims.

All of your examples, regardless of whether the victim-hood is justified or not, are of the right-tribe's internal discourse. Uninitiated people do not know the details that lead a right-triber to perceive the injustice because the left-tribe dominates not only their own internal discourse but also the national discourse.

That the right-tribe has any influence at all is an enduring testament to just how bat shit insane the left-tribe currently is.
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My statement was not about motivation, but phenomenon.
The motivation is what leads to the phenomenon, which is what makes right wing politics of today recognizable by its own standards.

The propaganda machine which continues to be the mainstream culture of the uninformed never applies the same victimhood criteria to right-tribers as it does to left-tribers.

They have double standards, much like yourself. At every turn with relative probabilities the odds are ever in the favor of the left-tribe victim narrative.
Again, I never argued nor suggested that victimization is not a part of left wing politics. The difference is that victimization is not central to left wing politics.

Left wing politics is fundamentally about improving the lives of it's constituency by assuring opportunity for all. Right wing politics is all about grievances and victimization.

Trump is the victim of the hour by objective measures, but because he is right-tribe (the dangerous part of the right-tribe actually) he doesn't get to be a victim (according to what the uninformed normies see).
I can only imagine that by "objective measures" you mean things like the number of investigations, impeachments or indictments he is facing as most Trump defenders assert, which is an absurd argument. That's like arguing that revenue = profit, with no consideration for expenses.

This is the silly little game that the right lives to play, pretend that Trump being under investigation is the democrats fault and blot the fault of the person who's actions triggered said investigation. This is why if you turn on Fox News, OANN, or whoever you know what you will never see? A segment digging deep into the facts about Trump's actions. It's entirely a barrage of whataboutisms and deep state conspiracies. Because Trump, and by extension the MAGA base, are always the victim.

Uninitiated people do not know the details that lead a right-triber to perceive the injustice because the left-tribe dominates not only their own internal discourse but also the national discourse.
That's because most people live in the real world. Conspiracy theories and empty political slogans tend to only appeal to those who have a vested interest in them, which is generally not the case to anyone who is not wrapped up in right wing politics.
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The motivation is what leads to the phenomenon
Only if wishing made it so, which it doesn't.


The difference is that victimization is not central to left wing politics.
Uh huh


That's because most people live in the real world.
No most people live in a low-information world. The left-tribe narrative crumbles under review which is why anyone who attempts to delve into details never makes it onto CNN or Fox.

I know you're part of a small sect comfortable with details but utterly incapable of consistently evaluating relative probability but you're the exception. Most people haven't a clue Biden is guilty of everything Trump is accused of (quid pro quo corruption, hoarding secret documents, sounding like an idiot with zero self-awareness, groping people).
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The left-tribe narrative crumbles under review
It crumbles in any environment where right wingers are able to strawman and equivocate without any pushback whatsoever. Case and point...

Most people haven't a clue Biden is guilty of everything Trump is accused of (quid pro quo corruption, hoarding secret documents, sounding like an idiot with zero self-awareness, groping people).
Not one of these things is remotely the same.

We've discussed the quid pro quo ad nauseam. Your position is to hand waive away every piece of evidence showing you're wrong as part of some grand conspiracy.

Trump wasn't indicted fort having secret documents, he was indicted for refusing to give them back while lying to federal investigators

There is no example of Biden "sounding like an idiot" that compares to any one of hundreds of examples out there of Trump genuinely having no idea what the hell he's talking about.

Biden's groping is bad but no where near the level of Trump. Where is he at? 26 acusers, including a conviction and getting caught on tape admitting to sexual assault...

Strawmans and false equivalences are all the political right has.