regardless of whether trump is found guilty, he unethically obstructed the government

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Tell me, how does MAGA mean racist?
Trump become popular by saying Obama wasn’t born in America 

Trump announced his campaign by saying Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers

Republicans believe you make America great by denying blacks the right to vote. Changes to voting laws in Texas have focused on making it harder for blacks to vote, such as in Houston.

Republicans like Trump tried to blame January 6 on Black Lives Matter activists 

Trump’s challenges to the 2020 election were focused on areas with black populations like, Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia and Phoenix.

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How is a computer going to translate this?

It wont.

Because the encryption code cannot be guessed.
We're talking about two different things.

You're talking about closed algorithm encryption and I'm talking about open algorithm encryption.

When you encrypt something in SHA256 the algorithm that encrypted it is not a secret, only the key is.

It needs to be this way, because of the algorithm was also secret there would be no way for the other party to decrypt it even with a public key.

What you are describing (secret algorithm) codes require that the intended recipient has somehow secretly been given the algorithm. The algorithm is the key in this case.

The example of the enigma code was open algorithm because they had the machine. The nazis didn't try to give away the machine, but they knew damn well they would probably lose one. If they knew they would never lose the machine they hardly needed to try so hard with the coding.

BTW the terminology has changed a bit since 1940. I believe they referred to particular encryption algorithms as ciphers in the non-digital context.

A computer would have a tough time with secret ciphers (arbitrary algorithms). It would find it impossible to brute force a bunch of digits because there would be no way to know you've decrypted the message as opposed to seeing a bunch of normal human vocabulary appearing.

However, anything that can have its rules described can be written into a computer. I'm sure there are secret ciphers for digital encryption that utilize offsets and operators as Korea describes.

They are simply useless in the modern context because open algorithm encryption is so damn useful. -> It's incredibly helpful to be able to have receivers who can decrypt the message without forcing you to change your encryption method. When the algorithm is the key, every single reader becomes a potential impersonator.
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Trump become popular by saying Obama wasn’t born in America 

Trump announced his campaign by saying Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers

Republicans believe you make America great by denying blacks the right to vote. Changes to voting laws in Texas have focused on making it harder for blacks to vote, such as in Houston.

Republicans like Trump tried to blame January 6 on Black Lives Matter activists 

Trump’s challenges to the 2020 election were focused on areas with black populations like, Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia and Phoenix.

Do you honestly believe you are not straw-manning Maga with these esoteric examples?

Also, you used the word "Republican" alot. Not all Republicans care about Maga.

In fact, analyzing recent polling of Democrats, there are quite a few Democrat Biden voters with regrets that could possibly classify as Maga.


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It's incredibly helpful to be able to have receivers who can decrypt the message
Well, the receivers would be able to decrypt the message if they knew the pattern, that is, if they knew which parts of text are meaningless and which have meaning. However, anyone not knowing the pattern would attempt to find meaning in meaningless parts of text.
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Trump become popular by saying Obama wasn’t born in America 
But why is that racist?  Because Obama is considered a black man?

Trump announced his campaign by saying Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers
He did not say that.  He was implying that not all illegal immigrants are asylum seekers and wanting better lives.  Some are criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.  Can you prove that all that come through the southern border are here for good reasons?
 
Republicans believe you make America great by denying blacks the right to vote. Changes to voting laws in Texas have focused on making it harder for blacks to vote, such as in Houston.
How can a law about voting make it harder specifically on blacks?  Give me an example.

Republicans like Trump tried to blame January 6 on Black Lives Matter activists 
Source please.  

Trump’s challenges to the 2020 election were focused on areas with black populations like, Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia and Phoenix.
I can see Atlanta and Detroit, but not so much Philly and especially Phoenix.  Looks like you are grasping at straws on that one.

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Well, the receivers would be able to decrypt the message if they knew the pattern
And if they knew the pattern they could write a different message that could also be decrypted with the same pattern correct?
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So the whole case seems to be falling apart even before it begins
Not one single paragraph in that entire video transcript even attempted to address the case against Trump.

Because you know, critical thinking and nuance.
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The only reason Trump took the material was that he thought he could make money off of it.
The problem with this analysis is that it is built on the premise that Trump is a normal human being. He's not, he's incredibly psychologically damaged. In the indictment Trump is quoted as he showed classified documents to onlookers with no clearance and no business having anything to do with them. Some of the witnesses said they felt like he was showing off. Think about that, a former president showing off that he had access to classified information. How egotistical and narcissistic do you have to be to do that?

It's quite possible Trump was or intended to sell national secrets. It's also possible he's just a deranged lunatic holding onto a time in his life where he held real power and cannot handle admitting it's over. He's not a normal human being so it makes no sense to treat him like one.
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Why is the idea of an old geezer being a president less dangerous than a machine in charge? Is it perhaps that the old geezer will be close to death by the time he gains power so nobody can hold power for too long?

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You need facts to know a former President can’t take classified documents to his house and store them in a bathroom and then lie about it, say he doesn’t have any documents, and try to get his attorneys, including Bobb to lie and say all documents have been returned.
Context matters, and you have zero!!! 

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But why is that racist?  Because Obama is considered a black man?
Obama is a black man. His skin is black, right?

He did not say that.  He was implying that not all illegal immigrants are asylum seekers and wanting better lives.  Some are criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.  Can you prove that all that come through the southern border are here for good reasons?
Can you prove that all white men with high school diplomas are not complete idiots? He said Mexican immigrants are rapists, they bring drugs, and some I assume are good people. I could say the same thing about high school graduates. Would you be insulted?

How can a law about voting make it harder specifically on blacks?  Give me an example.
Passing a voting law that says individual counties can prohibit voting on Sundays during the early voting period to undermine “souls to the polls”, a successful way black churches have gotten their congregations to vote in large numbers.

Source please. 
JC, you can’t be that ill informed. Trump was quoted saying just that to Kevin McCarthy. Trump was quoted by McCarthy saying that the rioters weren’t his supporters but BLM activists operating under a false flag.

I can see Atlanta and Detroit, but not so much Philly and especially Phoenix.  Looks like you are grasping at straws on that one.
That is where he challenged the vote counts.  Perhaps you recall a company called Cyber Ninjas doing a recount in the Phoenix area. It took months and was in all the papers. Just because you are a poorly informed dummy, it doesn’t mean the Republicans aren’t determined to undermine access to voting for blacks and trying to throw their votes out.
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Pattern points to the correct message. Anyone who knows the pattern would reach the correct message.

Example:

"12345679901226781"

The receiver would need to know that

"1" means "Y"

"9" means "E"

"8" means "S"

And receiver would need to know that the pattern is 1, 8, 16.

The pattern tells us which parts of message are real. 

Pattern of "1, 8, 16" means that 1th, 8th and 16th characters are real, while the rest are fake.

"12345679901226781" from this original message receiver takes only 1th, 8th and 16th characters of this message and writes them down.

Therefore, receiver would write down "198".

Then to decode "198" with the given meanings:

"1" means "Y"

"9" means "E"

"8" means "S"

Therefore, "198" means "YES".

However, anyone decoding without a pattern wouldnt be able to make sense of it. Therefore, receiver must have pattern and meanings.
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And if they knew the pattern they could write a different message that could also be decrypted with the same pattern correct?
They could write a new different message using same pattern and same meanings.
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And if they knew the pattern they could write a different message that could also be decrypted with the same pattern correct?
They could write a new different message using same pattern and same meanings.
And a third party with the same pattern (key) would be unable to authenticate that the message came from a single source.

That's taking a step back in cryptography. It's impossible to manage a large network of trust without that feature. Bitcoin would be conceptually impossible.
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Obama is a black man. His skin is black, right?
So if I'm reading this correctly, any claims against a black man is automatically racist?

Can you prove that all white men with high school diplomas are not complete idiots? He said Mexican immigrants are rapists, they bring drugs, and some I assume are good people. I could say the same thing about high school graduates.
No, but he's not wrong that drugs and criminals are coming over the border.  Is that racist?

Would you be insulted?
Meh.

Passing a voting law that says individual counties can prohibit voting on Sundays during the early voting period to undermine “souls to the polls”, a successful way black churches have gotten their congregations to vote in large numbers.
Just read one article on this.  It would be interesting if it was created specifically for the "souls to the polls" thing or if it was just overlooked until the churches squawked.  Thanks for the info.

JC, you can’t be that ill informed. Trump was quoted saying just that to Kevin McCarthy. Trump was quoted by McCarthy saying that the rioters weren’t his supporters but BLM activists operating under a false flag.
Maybe I should get a college degree to be able to have rites to the kool-aide too. 

That is where he challenged the vote counts.  Perhaps you recall a company called Cyber Ninjas doing a recount in the Phoenix area. It took months and was in all the papers. Just because you are a poorly informed dummy, it doesn’t mean the Republicans aren’t determined to undermine access to voting for blacks and trying to throw their votes out.
I heard all about Cyber Ninjas considering Phoenix is my home, but this still doesn't back up your claim about racism on the recounts.  Why Phoenix of all places?  It has a relatively low black population compared to other places this could have been done to.
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So if I'm reading this correctly, any claims against a black man is automatically racist?
When the claims have no basis in fact, yes, they are racist. They were certainly aimed at and got attention from his racist base.

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So if I'm reading this correctly, any claims against a black man is automatically racist?
When the claims have no basis in fact, yes, they are racist. They were certainly aimed at and got attention from his racist base.

No, but he's not wrong that drugs and criminals are coming over the border.  Is that racist?
That’s not what he said. He said Mexicans are rapists, they bring drugs.

So he wouldn’t be wrong to say white men with high school diplomas are idiots. Is that offensive?

No, but he's not wrong that drugs and criminals are coming over the border.  Is that racist?
Or, perhaps if you were the kind of person to pursue a college degree, you would possess critical thinking skills that allow you to discern facts from nonsense.

Why Phoenix of all places?  It has a relatively low black population compared to other places this could have been done to.
Phoenix is an urban area where the fancy college educated city slickers live. The other cities I mentioned that Trump claimed to be rigged had large black populations.

Atlanta, Detroit, Philadelphia 

I heard all about Cyber Ninjas considering Phoenix is my home,
And what did Cyber Ninjas report? Zero, absolutely zero evidence of fraud.


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When the claims have no basis in fact, yes, they are racist. They were certainly aimed at and got attention from his racist base.
So what if the same claim was leveled against Biden?  No basis in the claim, so the claim is still racist or no since he is white?

Or, perhaps if you were the kind of person to pursue a college degree, you would possess critical thinking skills that allow you to discern facts from nonsense.
I would like to presume that anyone with a college degree could read between the lines of what a person is trying to say, not only pick up what they want to hear a person say.  

You know, maybe you do have a skill that I don't have with communication, because I have been trying to make out the stuttering and mumblings of President Biden for years now.  Can you decipher his geriatric incoherence for me?
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So what if the same claim was leveled against Biden? 
A better question is why didn’t and why wouldn’t such a claim gain any traction with Biden or any other white person, such as Ted Cruz, who was not born in America.

The answer is racism 

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The answer is racism 
That is still a large claim considering the whole "not born in USA" issue.  They knew Obama's dad was Kenyan and that claims were made that he was born in Kenya.  


 such as Ted Cruz, who was not born in America.
That's actually interesting.  I looked it up.
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@DavidAZ
That is still a large claim considering the whole "not born in USA" issue.  They knew Obama's dad was Kenyan and that claims were made that he was born in Kenya.  
Ted Cruz’s dad was born in Cuba. Why was lying Ted Cruz not asked to show his birth certificate?

Obama’s mother is American, just like Ted Cruz. Why the disparity?  What would possibly cause the lie that Obama wasn’t born in America to be accepted by a majority of Republicans? Answer: racism. Why did Trump make a case about Obama’s birth certificate? He knew it would resonate with his racist base of voters.
What do you call a man who uses racism to gain a political advantage? A racist 

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@DavidAZ
That's actually interesting.  I looked it up.
I’m sure you could learn a lot of interesting facts if you ventured outside your bubbled echo chamber.

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And a third party with the same pattern (key) would be unable to authenticate that the message came from a single source.
Well, the source could be written in the message. I am not exactly sure how they usually authenticate sources, but I am pretty sure same way can apply to this encryption.

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I’m sure you could learn a lot of interesting facts if you ventured outside your bubbled echo chamber.
Rooskie, that's why I'm here.  I like to hear the thoughts of others like you.  I may learn a thing or two.  C'mon, even a stopped clock is correct twice a day.

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You are missing the point. Anyone with the pattern can make a new message lying about the source.

With public/private encryption algorithms they authenticate the source because the source is the only one that can produce messages decryptable by the public key.
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I dont know much about large networks. I would have to do lots of research to figure out that one. I am not exactly willing to do such research right now.
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I like to hear the thoughts of others like you.  
You could also take a look at the sources you typically use and make an assessment as to their credibility.

You may have heard that FOX News had to pay 787 million dollars to settle a lawsuit that they knowingly lied about the 2020 election.

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You may have heard that FOX News had to pay 787 million dollars to settle a lawsuit that they knowingly lied about the 2020 election.
I've heard.  I try to take everything with a grain of salt.  I try not to be mindless, just woefully uneducated with college material.