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LOL you are losing to him at the moment, that's my genuine opinion but his flow was impeccable for a beginner,
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True, although when you are a rich CEO, politician, etc things become complicated. Focusing primarily on growing a business is what companies need to thrive. That isn't to say they can't be greedy, uncaring assholes. It is as I said, people of almost every type can be flawed. The rich man is most likely very manipulative.

I meant this more in the context of common social interaction, though.
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I am actually one of the few rap fans who would any day denounce tupac as daddy of rap to someone like smalls or nas. Tupac was way too violent and brutal in his raps for the early days. Back then it wasn't normal to be so vicious or threatening in your raps, Tupac made it that way and had terrible wordplay but when it comes to delivery, sure Tupac was the OG of delivery, hands down.

Eminem anyone loves and respects if they love rap. It's like if I see a rap fan and they say they don't like or at least admire Eminem, you just fucking know they bleed of ignorance especially if they lover another white rapper and don't realise what glass ceiling Eminem broke for the rest and himself from scratch.

But XXXTentacion? LOL? WHAT?! How the fuck have I ever implied I'm him. Get the actual hell out of here ty.
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Just look at how REF treated me in this thread and in general even unprovoked.

They are damaged by you. You're the type of dad to literally drive your kids to the point of suicide I don't doubt it for a second. You'll justify it all if they don't kill themselves successfully in their adulthood saying you 'shaped them' and likely alienate your wife along the way and die a bitter old fuck who couldn't make anyone happy but himself and other sadists like him at the sake of their victims.
Nothing anyone said in this thread is anywhere near as hateful, disgusting and pathetic compared to what you said. You should be banned for that remark.

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Can you explain how you quantify the intensity and sadism involved with the statement? In my opinion that comment was a genuine severely effective way to display to someone with 'thick skin' and proud of it that not only can anyone be shaken up by words alone but that his mentality is toxic and going to be something he bitterly regrets in the long run if he treats everyone with any sensitivity that way.

I don't take a single word back there, it's not like I said a word against his fam so I don't get the issue really when you look at how others degrade and humiliate me. Like seriously look at the tone, motive and sadism in REF the whole thread and Laddy in the beginning of it. That is undeniably designed to pain me emotionally, make me feel utterly degraded and humiliated and to incite others to join in and laugh.
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I have been far more rational than you and you still make me out as the villain...
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I see the fault in what I said. I had purportedly implied that autistic people have no empathy. They certainly have empathy, but it may only be felt for a select few. Just to be clear, empathy doesn't mean liking somebody, but being able to put yourself in somebody's shoes, even if you think little of that person.

There are also periods of time, or "fits" where they seem to have very little regard of the other person and how their decisions may affect them. I have known some people who were physical with their fits, although only one of them I knew was high functioning. Again, this isn't to denounce them to any degree, or state that all autistic people have no empathy. It's to identify a common problem in autism that I notice in the user in question during certain periods of time.
I've had similar experiences where I witnessed those "fits". When they get really bad, it can be pretty frustrating. You want to yell "how can you be so self-centered?" but you know it's not their fault and you need to be patient.

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Below is a post written by RationalMadman on this thread towards another person here. I read where you explained why Wylted was banned, yet RM seems to go unabated with his vile posts. Why is it RM is allowed to post his hateful disgusting remarks yet others get banned for far less? Here are his words if you haven't read them yet? I think you need to talk with the other mods and get RM straightened out, don't ya think?

They are damaged by you. You're the type of dad to literally drive your kids to the point of suicide I don't doubt it for a second. You'll justify it all if they don't kill themselves successfully in their adulthood saying you 'shaped them' and likely alienate your wife along the way and die a bitter old fuck who couldn't make anyone happy but himself and other sadists like him at the sake of their victims.
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Can you explain how you quantify the intensity and sadism involved with the statement? In my opinion that comment was a genuine severely effective way to display to someone with 'thick skin' and proud of it that not only can anyone be shaken up by words alone but that his mentality is toxic and going to be something he bitterly regrets in the long run if he treats everyone with any sensitivity that way.

I don't take a single word back there, it's not like I said a word against his fam so I don't get the issue really when you look at how others degrade and humiliate me. Like seriously look at the tone, motive and sadism in REF the whole thread and Laddy in the beginning of it. That is undeniably designed to pain me emotionally, make me feel utterly degraded and humiliated and to incite others to join in and laugh.


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What the fuck. Rash, that was seriously the worst thing I've ever heard you say.
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Lol? I couldn't care less tbph.
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Get "Thick skin" he'll tell his kids no doubt about it, how is the analogy or statement in any way wrong?
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You just take the side of whoever you fancy in the moment, you do realise that right?
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That is you bias against me and you can not even lie. You don't care about lyrics and analogies in your raps and mine where ultimately better. He did not blow me away. You don't have a good art for judging rap without bias

If you denounce Tupac, then you are just as violent as him. You talk about octopuses raping people and slitting their wrists. You are just as violence

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Rash, no matter how angry I was at someone or how harsh they were being on me, I would never go after their family and say "your kids will commit suicide". That's crossing a line.

I think the fact that you're being ganged up on here is making you feel like you have to be extra vicious if you want to survive this fight. I can definitely understand that, but it's not true -- you'll survive no matter what. You don't need to poison your dagger.
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Sure but Tupac was starting to mean thing he was saying and making lowkey genuine threats over the raps. It's whatever, he undeniably influenced rap and I 'respect' his authority but he's nowhere near to the level of rapper he's made out to be. He was a mediocre rapper, not a bad one. 

If you would like to discuss rap theory with me and tell me specifics of why bsh1 is losing to you, I'd be happy to discuss it. I think your wordplay is equal to his. not measurably beneath or above for instance. I think his cheating by repeating words is something to take into account but is counteracted by your broken flow and not just that you actually rhyme half-rhymes often think they are genuine and I am not sure if it's your accent or not.
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Context, read what I said. I didn't threaten his kids or say something against them.
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I was fairly certain he didn't yet have children, so my example was very open to preventing him going down the path he was going.
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I cannot unsay it firstly, and I did not suggest any details of his abuse of his children. I said he is going to berate them repeatedly and if they're sensitive, god help them. If he wants to hide behind a pseudonym to freely abuse me, I shall use my pseudonym to make extreme examples.

If this was real names attached, I would just block the guy long ago and that means I don't have to read his shit as social media platforms block properly.
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I was fairly certain he didn't yet have children, so my example was very open to preventing him going down the path he was going.
Oh. I assumed you knew he was a father or something. Guess that's not quite as bad. Still though.

Context, read what I said. I didn't threaten his kids or say something against them.
I know.

I cannot unsay it firstly, and I did not suggest any details of his abuse of his children. I said he is going to berate them repeatedly and if they're sensitive, god help them. If he wants to hide behind a pseudonym to freely abuse me, I shall use my pseudonym to make extreme examples.

If this was real names attached, I would just block the guy long ago and that means I don't have to read his shit as social media platforms block properly.
"He is going to berate them repeatedly and if they're sensitive, god help them" would've been fine imo.
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Then you miss the vital key of why I said it how I said it. I wanted to directly display that words affect and wound/rattle to someone saying 'get a thick skin'.
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I read where you explained why Wylted was banned, yet RM seems to go unabated with his vile posts. Why is it RM is allowed to post his hateful disgusting remarks yet others get banned for far less? ... I think you need to talk with the other mods and get RM straightened out, don't ya think?
As I think I told you yesterday, only posts that are reported get moderated (within reason). In any case where you see someone seemingly getting away with something another person seemingly did not, the first thing you should ask is whether it was reported in both cases or only one of them.

But in this case, I believe RM was banned for 48 hours just a few days ago, so one can't really say he never gets a smack. For all I know Virt and bish could be talking about it right now. Or about someone else you think gets too much slack. They do their mod business in private, very discreet, privacy and so on.

Me, I'd rather tell every fucking detail to people as soon as they ask me. I'd rather turn the whole goddamn evidence box upside down and let all the crime scene evidence and bloody murder weapons and DNA samples fall out in front of everyone in a great big dirty pile, so I can point and say, "LOOK. Look at all the reasons I am not Hitler. LOOK AT THEM."
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Yeah they can even justify banning me with ease, cowards like to plot in the background so that they don't need to worry about backlash when they do said actions as they plan to do them via you or via saying 'other people demanded us to'.
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Ban me or not, I don't see the point in playing this like a pussy, if I have to pussyfoot here, I may as well be on facebook with my real name whispering controversial things in a corner because of censorship.

One minute people want laissez-faire then they hate when I embrace it.
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My flow isn't broken. You just don't know how to read it
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People are fickle.

But would you really want the mods to make a public spectacle of you by broadcasting it like a trial, instead of privately discussing the matter and then making a decision? Whatever else you may think of bish, I give my sincere testimony -- whatever that's worth to anyone, which is probably nothing -- that he takes member privacy very seriously. You guys probably don't know just how seriously.

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I can believe that, if you have slow-to-choppy variance as even I have in my written raps it's hard to follow but I can objectively prove to you that you're not structuring your flow properly and I think it's because you don't listen to a beat when you write it or am I wrong?
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I'd rather a trial absolutely, I would want to go down as the guy who showed that everything I was banned for was intentionally done to take others down with me and objectively cement the banning of other specific members that I won't name in this message.

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I’d contend that telling me to kill myself was the worst thing I’ve witnessed him say. 

In fact, I tried to be nice to him in a recent exchange (which again, he initiated) but his behaviour toward me was abysmal. He is a horrible person who will continue to be horrible because he lacks the insight and intelligence necessary to change. 


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You either have rules and enforce them or don't enforce them. You want to play this wishy washy game, then I will play wishy washy rule abider.