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@RationalMadman
Yea I really don't since it is "Freestyle"
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Freestyle means no chorus/hook.
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@Vader
You may mean Acapella but that is ironic as it's not with voice.
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Awww you were nice to me? That undoes all the taunting and bullying you did to me all the other times and all the other people you've hurt and abused and scared the living shit out of with irl threats.
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@RationalMadman
Fair point.

But yea I see your point but I think overall that my flow is more complex ish. It may be I read it differently

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@RationalMadman

- I never bullied you. 

- I haven’t seriously threatened anyone. 


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Oh 'seriously' as in from your point of view? Well then I haven't seriously said anything mean to you ever. 

Oh right, what 'you think' you said isn't always relevant, or is it? Can't have it both ways. Either you take into account the others' perspective on it, especially the victim, or you only take your own as you're implying.

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@Zeichen
You did try though, to bully me that is. xD
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Then you outsourced it to samstevens and realised you can let others fight me for you.
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Considering you told me a threat made to me wasn't serious you got balls telling someone else they can't use the same words. That said I am withdrawing from this topic. Anything that might portray you a victim is false and should be avoided. 
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 ^ Guess this is a threat oopsy, didn't mean to actually run for your life.
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Oh right, what 'you think' you said isn't always relevant, or is it? Can't have it both ways. Either you take into account the others' perspective on it, especially the victim, or you only take your own as you're implying.

A year to several months on, it isn't even remotely relevant. It would only be relevant, and I would only be a hypocrite, if I was still engaging in that type of behaviour -- not that it ever was as pervasive and problematic as yours, though.

Sadly for you, "change" isn't a word that has any inherent meaning. 
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@RationalMadman

Then you outsourced it to samstevens and realised you can let others fight me for you.

You truly are deluded. 



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@Zeichen
Ohhhh so like just last month you did it or something but yeah we so cooool now yeah? You be chatting gooood shit about me on those hangouts when my back is turned ye?

Aiiight we gooood. Hug hug kiss kiss friends friends bliss bliss
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Ohhhh so like just last month you did it or something but yeah we so cooool now yeah? You be chatting gooood shit about me on those hangouts when my back is turned ye?
I don't talk about you in the hangouts, RM. You aren't that special ;) 

Aiiight we gooood. Hug hug kiss kiss friends friends bliss bliss
lol
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@Zeichen
I’d contend that telling me to kill myself was the worst thing I’ve witnessed him say. 
Kinda fuzzy. Did this happen just a few weeks after the site went up, when Mike was the only "moderator" so to speak.


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@Zeichen
right here right now you show the way you taunt and degrade me. That's subtle but a clear example of the tone and general way you convey to me how unimportant I am to you, why would I give a shit about someone who sees me as dirt and has abused me verbally many times in the past in more overt ways?
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@Castin
Yes.
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@RationalMadman

right here right now you show the way you taunt and degrade me.
This is simply imagined by you. 


That's subtle but a clear example of the tone and general way you convey to me how unimportant I am to you, why would I give a shit about someone who sees me as dirt and has abused me verbally many times in the past in more overt ways?
I have not verbally abused you "many times" in the past, nor do I see you as "dirt". Rather, I view you as someone with a very fragile ego -- but instead of doing things to address this, you choose to obsess over a website and incite numerous flame wars with people. Your life clearly lacks productivity, and this is where you need to change. The primary differences between you and I is that my life has never revolved around online activity, and that I am capable of developing as a person. 

If anything, you have gotten worse. My image of you is a male in his mid twenties (older than me, btw -- again showing that I'm considerably more mature than you are, despite being younger) who has no girlfriend, no job, and no discernible interests. You dedicate your entire day to arguing with other users  -- which only serves to further escalate your insanity. 
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@RationalMadman
I'd rather a trial absolutely, I would want to go down as the guy who showed that everything I was banned for was intentionally done to take others down with me and objectively cement the banning of other specific members that I won't name in this message.
No one will go down with you. You alone will be banned. We will all point and laugh, and then we will move on with our lives, forgetting you ever existed. 

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@Castin
What the fuck. Rash, that was seriously the worst thing I've ever heard you say.

only posts that are reported get moderated 

the first thing you should ask is whether it was reported
Okay, as a member of the forum and of the mod team, have you reported it?

I believe RM was banned for 48 hours just a few days ago, so one can't really say he never gets a smack
That's a very strong argument to have him banned again, considering it was only two days and he learned nothing from it. Clearly, he cares less of what the mods think and is abusing their position and yours. Ethan and I were both banned a week for far less than what RM has posted here, time and again.

They do their mod business in private, very discreet, privacy and so on.
Yet, Bsh threw you under the bus when he was asked about Wylted's ban, he said to talk with Castin. I think you also came onboard that thread with an explanation, citing that Wylted crossed the line... in fact, you then said this to RM...

Rash, no matter how angry I was at someone or how harsh they were being on me, I would never go after their family and say "your kids will commit suicide". That's crossing a line.
I would suspect that armed with all this you would want to remain consistent in your moderation and immediately take it to your mod team and seriously discuss what should be done, don't you think?


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And, as you already know, Castin, RM makes it clear his intentions and motivations by his response to you...

Lol? I couldn't care less tbph.
Do you actually believe this guy is going to change anything? All the mod team is doing is prolonging the inevitable, but not doing it in a timely manner, thus allowing RM to continue his barrage of hateful threats. He seriously does not care, you know that, right?
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And I will live to show others some day the joke of bsh1 who allowed this type of human who posted what you just posted and relished in making me feel pathetic and worthless to remain unbanned while i get banned for having a backbone to the likes of you. Fucking joke.
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@Goldtop
Phew. This is gonna be a long one. Hope I get everything.
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Fuck. I had to stop because I saw a big spider and now I can't find it. Now this whole fucking room is unsafe.
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Lol
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@Goldtop
Here's your reply Gold. It's too long because I was interrupted before I could condense it and now I couldn't concentrate on it to save my motherfucking life. Shit shit shit.

Okay, as a member of the forum and of the mod team, have you reported it?
Nopers. You have heard all the complaints that we aren't being laissez-faire enough right. I don't know, wonder what would happen if it came out that mods were running around reporting stuff even if no members had felt any need to report it. Those damn oppressive control freak mods, poking their noses in everyone's business, always trying to catch people doing stuff they didn't even do. Nah, unless it's threats or doxxing, I'm gonna try to leave it up to members for now, in the spirit of laissez-faire.

You have to remember that there will always be users like Outplayz, or possibly thett or Resurge, who won't think even something like what Rash said merits a report, and who would probably be kinda angry if a mod butted in and reported it. If I can avoid that, I'd prefer to.

That's a very strong argument to have him banned again, considering it was only two days and he learned nothing from it. Clearly, he cares less of what the mods think and is abusing their position and yours. Ethan and I were both banned a week for far less than what RM has posted here, time and again.
I wish I could tell you more about this. I just don't have insider details about all the factors that went into the punishments for those cases. But there's a good chance there was context about them that you weren't aware of.

Yet, Bsh threw you under the bus when he was asked about Wylted's ban, he said to talk with Castin. I think you also came onboard that thread with an explanation, citing that Wylted crossed the line... in fact, you then said this to RM...
That's not really throwing me under the bus, is it? I made the call, so I had to explain it. And if necessary, defend it. He couldn't answer for me. He was actually the offended party in that case.

I have no authority over RM. I don't get to decide what to do with him. It's not my job to even contemplate the question, strictly speaking. The mods haven't recused themselves from him that I'm aware of. So it's their business and Rash's business.

I would suspect that armed with all this you would want to remain consistent in your moderation and immediately take it to your mod team and seriously discuss what should be done, don't you think?
Y'know, I don't think that's a bad point. It would probably be a good time to organize and get our affairs in order. We haven't really done that since my appointment. I've been kind of hesitant because the whole point of my position is to maintain distance from the more intimate dealings of the mods. I shouldn't be involved very much in their affairs until they need me for a recusal case. But a degree of coordination is still desirable, and consistency is important. Hopefully it won't inflame accusations that I am now a fully fledged assimilated member of the mod clique cabal.

And, as you already know, Castin, RM makes it clear his intentions and motivations by his response to you...

Lol? I couldn't care less tbph.
Do you actually believe this guy is going to change anything? All the mod team is doing is prolonging the inevitable, but not doing it in a timely manner, thus allowing RM to continue his barrage of hateful threats. He seriously does not care, you know that, right?
I actually don't know that, no. I do know that when he feels threatened and hostile he can enter define periods of "fuck you all I don't care, burn this place down". Outside of those periods, though, he actually often expresses that he cares about the site quite a lot.


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Basically Catin is a fag hag dry humping mods when they need told it's ok and users when the mods want them to shut up. Thank goodness they found an atheist in the religion forum with no moral compass to back them up.
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"You are the only person dragging yourself down."

I'd like to quote Goldtop in relevance to the situation. This could have been avoided if RM had just ignored me and REF lol. Sadly, he is very passionate in his belief that others are culpable of his actions and genuinely believes that said actions exist under a blanket statement of justice. It seems hopeless for him and at his age I am very skeptical about his ability to reform.