Wait this is an all or nothing dichotomy -
I mean there is only one sense of "WOMAN", and that is one where they are an adult human female. So either a trans man is a woman, or they aren't, there isn't really a third option.
either all women are female or they are not.
- That's not my experience. In the real world, men and women come in every shade of the masculine/feminine rainbow.
See you're wrong - if a woman is defined as an adult human female, then adult human is a necessary predicate for being a woman. So therefore it can be inferred per the definition you provided that given it is a criteria, either all women are female, or they aren't. You are making the painfully common mistake of mistaking feminine with woman.
In what way/scenario is a trans man not a woman, per the wiktionary definition.
- When female is defined by sex but not gender
- i.e. "Everyone with tits must now leave the room."
- When female is determined by feminine character.
- i.e. "And now if the ladies would like to take a moment to powder their noses..."
- When woman is defined as a wife, fiancee or girlfriend
- i.e. " I'd say she's doing a woman's hardest job: juggling wolves." -Rear Window
- When woman is defined a female person who is extremely fond of or devoted to a specified thing
- i.e. "You might like "Real Housewives" but I'm more of a "Sex and the CIty" woman, myself."
- When woman is defined as a female attendent or servent
- i.e. " My woman comes in on Tuesdays to clean."
No but you defined woman as an adult human female. So everything you said here is irrelevant because it doesn't prove how a transgender man, who is a female/woman per your own definition, can be a male/man.
I'll ask again. Let's suppose that for all men, the criteria for being is being an adult male. Let's also suppose for all women, the criteria for being is being an adult female. So per this definition, because a trans man is still biologically a female, it follows that they also fall into the category of woman, by virtue of being both adults (we assume) and females. So in what sense is this trans man, per your definition that women are adult females, a man?
I would also like to note that this is the sort of debate I would have liked to engage in. Though admittedly, from your responses, it's a good thing you didn't.