Another mass shooting in Texas. Violent crime in red states is out of control

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Trump told over 30,000 lies while in office and you idiots love him.
Trump: This is the best ice cream ever folks, that's what people say, this amount of flavor is totally unprecedented in the history of this country.

Washington Post: We got em. +3 lies


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Washington Post: We got em. +3 lies
Bullshit. They documented every lie and inaccurate statement Trump made while in office. Look it up.


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I said YOU libtards.  Not Fox News. False equivalency fallacy on your part. 
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Washington Post: We got em. +3 lies
Bullshit. They documented every lie and inaccurate statement Trump made while in office. Look it up.

Spot checks:

Trump: We also got tax cuts, the largest tax cut and reform in the history of our country, by far.

Deep State Propaganda: "Even before Trump’s tax cut was crafted, he promised it would be the biggest in U.S. history – bigger than Ronald Reagan’s 1981 tax cut. Reagan’s tax cut amounted to 2.9 percent of the gross domestic product and none of the proposals under consideration came close to that level. Yet Trump persisted in this fiction even when the tax cut was eventually crafted to be the equivalent of 0.9 percent of GDP, making it the eighth largest tax cut in 100 years."

GDP is a proportional measure, not an absolute measure. Playing dirty games with normalization is a favorite tactic of the left-tribe propaganda machine.

Deep State Propaganda: 0
Trump: 296 (he repeated 296 times apparently)

Trump: We just got seventy five million votes. And that's a record in the history of in the history of sitting presidents.

Deep State Propaganda: When the counting was finished, Trump had received 74 million votes, not 75 million as he often claims

1.3% round up, I snort in derision at the propaganda.

Deep State Propaganda: but Biden earned more than 81 million.

That is in doubt, and regardless he wasn't a sitting president.

Deep State Propaganda was wrong in three different ways.

Deep State Propaganda: 0
Trump: 315(+19)

Trump: One of the things we're very, very proud of is the selection of almost three hundred federal judges and three great Supreme Court justices.That's a very big number. That's a record-setting number.

Deep State Propaganda: Contrary to his boasts, Trump did not achieve a record for appointing the most appeals court and district court judges. Bill Clinton has the record, with 367 judicial appointments in his two terms, followed by Ronald Reagan with 358 and then George W. Bush with 322. Through his four years, 226 judges nominated by Trump were confirmed by the Senate. (That is still behind Jimmy Carter, who had 261 judges confirmed in his single term.) George Washington appointed 39 judges during his presidency. Trump appointed 54 judges to the federal appeals court, behind Carter's 59 appeals-court appointments. Trump ranks second, after Carter, in terms of the number of district judges. (He just edged out Clinton and George W. Bush.) Trump often said he would appoint nearly 300 judges but he ended up well short of that number.

The deep state propaganda assumes what record is being referenced. Record over what period? Including reappointments? Including special territories?

The deep state propaganda switches the context from "selection" to "appointment"

Even if it was technically false it clearly falls into the category of exaggeration.

Deep State Propaganda: 0
Trump: 399(+84)

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Conclusion: BS, utter total smelly BS. I was fully expecting to see a lot of "fact checking" clear hyperbole but the first three weren't even that close to the mark. Pure malinformation that you swallowed.

Let me apply this level of "strictness" to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7X-LplRcMM

Paranthetically is not a word. +1 lie
19, 5, 6, 7, 8 is not a time. + 5 lies


There are not 54 states. + 1 lie.
Biden did not arrive at the senate a 180 years ago. +1 lie.

Of course the total would never reach 30,000; because he hides in a basement.

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Conclusion: BS, utter total smelly BS. I was fully expecting to see a lot of "fact checking" clear hyperbole but the first three weren't even that close to the mark. Pure malinformation that you swallowed.
How dare you mock the religion of Fanchick.
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so you think if this guy didn't have a gun, that he would have 1. first of attempted to kill all those people 2. he would have been successful killing all those people?

people who think the presence of guns makes no difference in murder rate, lack critical thinking skills. 
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I'm a young person,
And though I don't know of any statistics to verify it,
Guns used to look a lot more common in America,
Not to mention more rural areas where plenty of people have guns.


I won't say guns have 'no connection to shootings occurring,
But I 'do think it's not 'just guns.
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so you think if this guy didn't have a gun, that he would have 1. first of attempted to kill all those people 2. he would have been successful killing all those people?

people who think the presence of guns makes no difference in murder rate, lack critical thinking skills. 
First of all, you don't know the exact context of what happened.
Also, people who are good citizens can still do bad things. 

It's probably his fault. This man is definitely probably at fault. He made a bad choice with his gun, that he legally owned, and is being charged for that. 
That is how the law works.
 
I would also like to point out that the person who wasn't killed in this scenario was invited to the White House. Mainly because he was black. Now don't get me wrong, this person went through something awful, but the White House? 

Did the White House invite the families of the kids who died in Uvalde or Tennessee? Why not them, and this person instead? 

The main reason why guns are not the problem, is because of the fact that there are more guns in the U.S than people. There are approximately, 334,692,929 living in the United States. The number of guns is approximately 434,000,000. The fact that our country is one of, if not the most powerful, and stable country in the world, with that many guns being owned by the people, proves that guns aren't the problem for gun violence. It is the people who choose to break the law, or the violent people who are the problem. So, if anything, these rise in mass shootings, and normal shootings prove that there is a rise in bad people or violent people in the United States today. 
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False equivalency fallacy

Greatest hits!
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the largest tax cut and reform in the history of our country, by far.
It was NOT the largest tax cut or reform in history. This was a blatant lie.

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The deep state propaganda assumes what record is being referenced. Record over what period? Including reappointments? Including special territories?
Pitiful

Trump did set the record for most rounds of golf over days as President  

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Blue State Exodus!!! All leaving for Red States!!! 
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False equivalency fallacy

Greatest hits!

Fanchick loser hits. 
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Oh a clip from FOX News. Those are the guys that just paid 787 million for being liars.

But if it means losers like you who can’t earn move to poor, rural states, I’m all for it.
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It was NOT the largest tax cut or reform in history. This was a blatant lie.
Provide numbers, in unadjusted dollars.

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That’s great coming from a disabled Star Trek fanchick 
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, in unadjusted dollars.
You want unadjusted dollars? Why is that?

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Oh a clip from FOX News. Those are the guys that just paid 787 million for being liars.
Can’t refute the data, so toss a genetic fallacy in. Typical lefty libtard move. 
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That’s great coming from a disabled Star Trek fanchick 

That’s great coming from a closet homosexual hot for Trump fanchick. 
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genetic fallacy
Isn’t that what you did with Michael Cohen’s testimony against Trump? 

He lied before so nothing he says now can be trusted.

So the Same applies for FOX News. You can’t believe anything they say from now on. 
I also recall you saying you don’t watch FOX News. I knew that was a lie and now you have proven it.
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That’s great coming from a closet homosexual 
What a surprise, the racist redneck who lives off the government and couldn’t have kids is also homophobic 

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> @<<<TWS1405_2>>>
genetic fallacy
Isn’t that what you did with Michael Cohen’s testimony against Trump? 

Did not. That’s a lie. 

What a surprise, the racist redneck who lives off the government and couldn’t have kids is also homophobic 
Never lived in the south. Never known a redneck. Everyone lives off the government in one form r another.

Chose not to have any. Focused on education, career and personal growth with wifey doing the same, together. 

Can’t be phobic, not afraid of gays. Just so t care for them at all. Most intolerant and demanding jerks known to mankind. 
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in unadjusted dollars.
You want unadjusted dollars? Why is that?
because left-tribe propaganda constantly uses tricks like that to convey inaccurate impressions while being technically correct in some sense.

Whatever the standard is, it must be uniformly applied.

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You’re trying to argue that red states are more violent but when you look at the most violent cities in America they are all long time democratic run cities!
And each of them have been getting worse year on year, democrats have ruined cities like New York and Chicago, nowhere has their new soft on crime policies reduced crime or made if safer for the people living there. If you can see that there no hope for you!
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IwantRooseveltagain thinks a democrat elected by people in a city to run that city don't qualify as "democrat run" if the office exists under the authority of the state government.

It's very convenient, of course it fails to exonerate all the dangerous blue cities in blue states... but let's ignore that along with any relevant context.
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So you think he’s a racist? How come back when he was a democrat and palls with I’ll the prominent black figures there was nothing said about him but as soon as he came down the escalator as a republican the media suddenly calls him racist. The left has no policies or track record to run off so they are reduced to identity politics and smeer campaigns, no one trusts their foreign policy or their economic policies, all they do is pander to special interest groups and hope if they paint republicans as racist bigots they can hold onto the black vote…. I think more and more ethnic groups are starting to move away from the the democrats example the Latin vote in the last election, democrats are barely recognisable to what they were 20 years ago and if they keep moving to the extreme left they will alienate the majority of their base!
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"so you think if this guy didn't have a gun, that he would have 1. first of all attempted to kill all those people 2. he would have been successful killing all those people?"

you didn't answer the question. see above. please answer. you think if he had a knife, he would have attempted to kill them all, and that he would have been successful? 

the point, is that people are more likely to murder others if they have a gun versus if they have other weapons. people are impulsive and a gun is a push a button response that other weopons aren't like that. 
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they are all long time democratic run cities
Population being mostly democrat supporters in those cities. Being a democrat supporter means being more violent.
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Worse thing is these cities have been democratically run for 10+ years and all that happened in those years is crime has gone up living conditions have gone down. They’ve indoctrinated their people to think it’s only democratics that care about minorities and republicans are racist but at the same time done nothing to help low income areas or put criminals away….. 
I can see a change coming, regular people aren’t buying their fake promises and lies anymore, finally they are being held accountable for their failures and bad policies. They have cause so much hate and division in the country that is set race relation back years, hopefully they will get removed from power and the country can heal together!
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It only takes a look at any of their protests or rallies to see their are the more violent ones 😂 so much for the tolerant left they can’t even enter into a civil debate without shouting and screaming and throw their toys out of the pram, I think they only do this because if they are challenged with a different point of view or contrary facts they they can’t even comprehend being wrong so they chose to shout down any opposition and call them names like racist of misogynistic or white privileged