A Perspective on the Violence in Nashville

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The above absurdity is why you lost your ability to report and your insistence on circumventing the ban is not going to do you any good
I am not circumventing anything. I am allowed to report, just not to click the flag.
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I do a ton of stuff I would discourage others from doing. 

I don't put myself out there as a role model, nor would I ever.
Lucky you are so self-loathing then, it's quite a loophole.
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Lucky you are so self-loathing then, it's quite a loophole
Anyone arrogant enough to think themselves a role model, is by definition a piece of shit. 
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You gonna bitch at GP like you do me? If not, you’re a hypocrite. If you do, you’re still a hypocrite. 
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I don't give you shit because you are wrong. I typically agree with you. 
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I'm happy to see people realize that nothing can realistically be done about these shootings. America is just a violent country, and violence like this has been of the American experience for centuries. It's our fate, it's just nowadays schools are targeted
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We didn't always have school massacres though. I think there is a cause, and it might be as simple as "the experts" drugging people who are depressed due to bullying with psychoactive substances with unknown mechanisms of action.

Last time I looked into this, very few attacks lacked that factor.

Also, before mandatory schooling a kid could just escape severe bullying. I also think the general level of virtue has gone down. Any group of humans, even children; will form their own culture and the culture of schools have been allowed to grow on their own (with insufficient correction when it turns rotten).

If you have a rotten group of people, and throw in a few new ones regularly; the new ones aren't going to dilute the rottenness they'll become part of it.
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It's just a hyper focus on individualism that causes this
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Couldn't disagree more. Individualism is contradictory with the motivations for bullying and helps victims resist bullying.

It's the opposite, an erosion of individualism. A focus on shallow perception, hierarchy, and status markers.
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Bullying is the symptom of society not allowing people to be individuals, and a society where all must worship at the altar of conformity.

It's why there's currently a huge rise in violence and oppression conducted by and on behalf of "accepted" classes like trans and lbgt and anything else but white or male or straight as the purge is allowed to continue.
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We didn't always have school massacres though. I think there is a cause, and it might be as simple as "the experts" drugging people who are depressed due to bullying with psychoactive substances with unknown mechanisms of action.

Or, hear me out, in the 20th century there weren’t 20 million assault rifles that were easier to buy than a 6 pack of beer.

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Assault Rifles less deadly than handguns confirmed.
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Assault Rifles less deadly than handguns confirmed.
Claymore mines are less deadly than handguns. So obviously we should allow anyone to purchase those as well.
you have no interest in banning handguns. You just want to advance a strawmman argument.

Handguns kill more people than claymore mines, therefore we don’t need a ban on claymore mines. You are an idiot substitute teacher.
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Assault Rifles less deadly than handguns confirmed.
Yes, that’s why all modern armies go into battle with handguns and not assault rifles.

I remember the NRA’s stupid argument- a bullet hole from an AR15 is no bigger than a bullet hole from a handgun. So they are no more lethal than a handgun.

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Claymore to rifle? 
False equivalency fallacy

Typical 
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We didn't always have school massacres though. I think there is a cause, and it might be as simple as "the experts" drugging people who are depressed due to bullying with psychoactive substances with unknown mechanisms of action.
Last time I looked into this, very few attacks lacked that factor.
Also, before mandatory schooling a kid could just escape severe bullying. I also think the general level of virtue has gone down. Any group of humans, even children; will form their own culture and the culture of schools have been allowed to grow on their own (with insufficient correction when it turns rotten).
If you have a rotten group of people, and throw in a few new ones regularly; the new ones aren't going to dilute the rottenness they'll become part of it.
Yes. Bullying in schools today is unavoidable in the general sense. Add on top of that the psychiatric drugs that are prescribed to very young children, to toddlers.

Under the guide of "experts", people poison their own children.

When we realize that "expert" is not the arbiter of truth, but of money, we will realize that it is in "expert's" interest to sell as many drugs as possible at the high price.

Ironically, under the guide of "experts", mental illnesses in societies have increased and keep increasing.

Every year, we have an increase in the rate of autism, depression, suicidal thoughts, violent thoughts, sexual deviations...

One could attribute this to LGBT ideology too.

However, if the drugs are supposed to make children better, why arent children getting better after consuming those drugs?

After they said: "God is dead", they forgot that there is no substitute for God.

If we take a look at the most effective anti-depression drugs, we see that they have "the effect expiration date". In other words, they stop working after some time. You take them, but they dont produce the same effect anymore.

Compared to that, the effect of prayer never stops working.

Finally, every person is different. It is impossible to make a correct judgment about person's depression, since we dont know the scale of depression. Same applies to all other mental illnesses.

Since it is obvious that psychiatry is witchcraft and psychology is its extended hand, can we remove this witchcraft from our society before any more damage is done?

Society that is increasingly mentally ill will after a while end up having mentally ill leaders.

Can we afford that in the age of nuclear weapons?
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Assault Rifles less deadly than handguns confirmed.
Yes, that’s why all modern armies go into battle with handguns and not assault rifles.

I remember the NRA’s stupid argument- a bullet hole from an AR15 is no bigger than a bullet hole from a handgun. So they are no more lethal than a handgun.

Cite a source for that NRA allegation. 

2A isn’t about handguns and the Armed Forces. It’s about individuals. Who then could, when called, become a state’s militia. 
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I'm happy to see people realize that nothing can realistically be done about these shootings. America is just a violent country, and violence like this has been of the American experience for centuries. It's our fate, it's just nowadays schools are targeted
BS. I grew up during the 70s-early 90s (graduated HS in 89), and we had rifles slung in the back window of trucks being driven to High School, parties, and other various locations and NO ONE ever chose violence with a firearm to settle a dispute or otherwise. We went one on one, a physical altercation. Whoever won got the respect they earned and deserved. That is what this country has lost. Earning respect. Having respect.

People today are given carte Blanche to express their emotions as they feel to do so. That’s the problem. When someone lets their emotions get to them, they lose logic and rationality and just operate on unfettered emotion. That’s precisely why America has become more violent. And when you have liberal progressive democrats catering to criminality while criminalizing the law abiding, we are today where we are because of it. 

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Exactly, that's the price the country pays with partisan politics. When you pick a side and knowingly purposefully divide the country, you are no better than the person actually picking up a gun to stand with you in that division.
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We didn't always have school massacres though. I think there is a cause, and it might be as simple as "the experts" drugging people who are depressed due to bullying with psychoactive substances with unknown mechanisms of action.
[IwantRooseveltagain] Or, hear me out, in the 20th century there weren’t 20 million assault rifles that were easier to buy than a 6 pack of beer.
That's clearly a false impression, but the essential point is also incorrect. The US has always been heavily armed and if anything it was easier to get your hands on a weapon as a child or young adult in earlier times. School massacres are very recent by comparison. The first one was long after semi-automatic rifles I bet.

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I don't have time for your boomer "back in my day" shit. Being too emotional is probably number 10 on the real reasons why school shooters go off anyway. The reason is that American society is too individualistic and cynical. It was like at the founding of Jamestown, it was like that in Appalachia, it was like that in the 20's when crime skyrocketed(it was always much higher than Europe back then too), and it's like that now. What IS different now is that real honor and a sense of tribalism is completely gone, so the violence is almost exclusively committed by isolated individuals. 

You say that violence was never committed by firearms, instead it was fought out. That's real funny.

That is the spirit of America. It was all the maize we eat.  But politics has never as been in violent in America compared to other countries, so theres that

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Boomer? 🤦‍♂️ I was born after that era, dumbass. 
Shows how little you know. 
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Boomer is a mindset. 
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Boomer is a mindset. 
No, it’s not. It’s designated for those born after wwii up to 1969. Again, shows how little you know. 

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2A isn’t about handguns and the Armed Forces. It’s about individuals. Who then could, when called, become a state’s militia. 
We don’t do that anymore 

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No, it’s not. It’s designated for those born after wwii up to 1969. Again, shows how little you know. 
Boomers were born from 1946 to 1964 dummy

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The US has always been heavily armed and if anything it was easier to get your hands on a weapon as a child or young adult in earlier times. School massacres are very recent by comparison. The first one was long after semi-automatic rifles I bet.
The school massacre era began in 1999 with Columbine. 5 years later the assault weapons ban of 1994 sunset and the number of ARs exploded around the country. It’s been a worsening disaster ever since.

Let’s not forget that Ronald Reagan supported the assault weapons ban in writing 

On May 3, 1994, Ronald Reagan and two other former presidents sent a letter to House members, urging them to support a controversial ban on lethal, military-style assault weapons. At the time, President Clinton was battling Republicans, conservative Democrats and the NRA to pass a bill barring [the manufacture of new] semiautomatic rifles.
Clinton needed all the help he could get it. He got it from Reagan, who still carried great weight in the Republican Party, as well as Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. Their letter, in part, read:
This is a matter of vital importance to the public safety. While we recognize that assault weapon legislation will not stop all assault weapon crime, statistics prove that we can dry up the supply of these guns, making them less accessible to criminals. We urge you to listen to the American public and to the law enforcement community and support a ban on the further manufacture of these weapons.

But the idiots of today’s Republican Party pretend it never happened.

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Ya, TWS is on disability now, although he likes to tell people he is a wealthy retiree. He is unemployed and has no children. So sad.