What Hitler Promised...........

I accept that renewable energy isn’t totally environmentally friendly but it is preferable to the alternative. Here in the UK wind power contributed 26.1% of the UK’s total electricity generation in 2021, so things are moving in the right direction. 

From your initial comment “But the accurate facts show that the world isn't actually in jeopardy,” I thought your position was of global warming denial but from these links you posted it seems that is not the case. And as main theme of this topic seems to be the endorsement of Mein Kampf, I will move on.

This is the stupidest argument that I have ever heard.

Saying:

You can't argue this topic because you haven't read Mein Kampf..

Is like saying:

You can't argue about any historical figure who has a book. 

It's stupid, and just a way to get out of a hard question. 

So, if you want to continue to use this as a weak defense then fine.

But you are still avoiding questions and refusing to get into an actual intellectual argument. 

Here's what you can do, if you were smart:

Take whatever Hitler said in Mein Kampf and see if it lines up with historical records. 

If it doesn't, then it's probably BS.

If it does, then you should look deeper into it. 

Litteral quotes from Mein Kampf (translated):

"A state which in this age of racial poisoning dedicates itself to the care of its best racial elements must some day become lord of the earth.

May the adherents of our movement never forget this if ever the magnitude of the sacrifices should beguile them to an anxious comparison with the possible results."

"What reduces one race to starvation stimulates another to harder work."

"All the great civilizations of the past became decadent because the originally creative race died out, as a result of contamination of the blood."

These quotes are showing Hitlers true colors through Mein Kampf. 

He might have had good intentions, but he did very very bad things to get there. Some of those things unforgivable. 

You can't read a book that almost no one else here has read, and claim your right and no one else is, because you read an opinionated book. 

I would replace all mentions of 'racial' with 'racialist' but each to their own. Hitler did choose to refer to Jews as a race. This was enshrined in the Nuremberg Racial Laws 1933, where Jewish rights were also upheld. So when I see an image of a menorah on a window sill with a Nazi banner outside, and the caption reads "defiance" I have to laugh. Jews were entitled to practice their religion in the Reich and there were 150,000+ quarter- and half- Jews in Hitler's military forces. None died in a gas chamber. Weird, huh.

Here's a quote from Degrelle, who survived the war in exile in Spain, that should summarise the racialism vs racism:

"German racialism has been deliberately distorted. It never was an anti-"other race" racialism. It wasa pro-German racialism. It was concerned with making the German race strong and healthy in everyway. Hitler was not interested in having millions of degenerates, if it was in his power not to havethem. Today one finds rampant alcohol and drug addiction everywhere. Hitler cared that the Germanfamilies be healthy, cared that they raise healthy children for the renewal of a healthy nation. Germanracialism meant re-discovering the creative values of their own race, re-discovering their culture. Itwas a search for excellence, a noble idea. National Socialist racialism was not against the otherraces, it was for its own race. It aimed at defending and improving its race, and wished that all otherraces did the same for themselves."

) i never claimed a right, I pointed out that people were talking about Hitler with falsities and they spread such falsities without reading the most fundamental written word on his struggle.

p.s. do you know the context of any of those quotes? NO. because you (still) haven't bothered to read it and instead act as if you know about it. I already gave you a PDF link that you can go and read the context of such quotes in.

I'd readily forgive your not having read it if:

a) you didn't act like you know what's in it

b) you act like you know more than I do about Hitler (and I don't even know that much)

you rely on the annals of history as a guide to what happened.

well, find something wrong in my logic here and come tell me why history is correct. remember, that's the historical record

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go back to my initial comment. and the errors I pointed out in things people were saying about Hitler.

i mean I can't really help you if you fail to accept the possibility that he has been lied about by those who defeated him.

well, find something wrong in my logic here and come tell me why history is correct. remember, that's the historical record

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Wind energy isn't a reliable source of energy, and the parts it takes to make them are not environmentally friendly. 

Wind energy just itself causes bird migration problems, only works when it's a windy day, and the materials used to make the wind turbines cause a lot of detrimental pollution to our sky's. 

Yes.

Global Warming does indeed exist no doubt, but it has always existed no matterwhat we did to it. Us as humans have really only contributed like not even 1%to Global Warming. It's all natures doing. 

 I say we should let nature take its course,and do things to be healthier, but we shouldn't try to push an agenda or forcepeople to change how they live, because of a lie that the world is ending soon. 

You are not even arguing against me anymore.

You are telling me to prove you wrong, when I told you that the history you provided literally isn't wrong, but the way Hitler portrays himself is.

You didn't answer my question also. 

My question was would you support Hitler? 

You still dodge this question. 

) i never claimed a right, I pointed out that people were talking about Hitler with falsities and they spread such falsities without reading the most fundamental written word on his struggle.

Ok well are those falsities wrong.

Yes, or no?

Do you agree with what Hitler did through his life?

p.s. do you know the context of any of those quotes? NO. because you (still) haven't bothered to read it and instead act as if you know about it. I already gave you a PDF link that you can go and read the context of such quotes in.

Mein Kampf Quotes by Adolf Hitler (goodreads.com)

I know the context.

I'd readily forgive your not having read it if:

a) you didn't act like you know what's in it

b) you act like you know more than I do about Hitler (and I don't even know that much)

You don't even know that much about Hitler, so why are you defending him?

I haven't read Mein Kampf, but I know a summary of what the book is about based on certain parts of the book I have read, and the fact that it is an autobiography. 

I don't need to read the Quran or the Bible, to know what it is about. Same with Mein Kampf. 

you rely on the annals of history as a guide to what happened.

Yes, I rely on historical evidence when arguing about history. 

Like every other logical person. 

well, find something wrong in my logic here and come tell me why history is correct. remember, that's the historical record

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There is nothing historically wrong about Mein Kampf, but the way Hitler portrays himself in Mein Kampf, is wrong. 

He portrays himself as this chosen hero of Germany, that will make the world. prosperous.

That sounds pretty good. But then you find out his actions, and the things he did to try to get to that point, and you realize he was a horrible man for doing that. 

go back to my initial comment. and the errors I pointed out in things people were saying about Hitler.

Hitler killed millions of Jews and was racist. He was also a psychopath, and thought he was chosen/destined for a greater purpose. 

That is all anyone in the forum has said about him. 

Is that wrong?

i mean I can't really help you if you fail to accept the possibility that he has been lied about by those who defeated him.

 The notion that he had killed millions of Jews happened before his defeat. 

We have photographic, eyewitness, testimonial, and audible evidence of his wrongdoings, by thousands of people, not just by those who have defeated him.

It's harder to believe the conspiracy that thousands lied about what he did, rather than believe he did those things, based on all the evidence we have of him doing it. 

1, Germany invaded first,

2, Secret Clause,

"Under the terms of the Polish-British Common Defence Pact of 25 August 1939, Britain had promised assistance if a European power attacked Poland.[Note 9] A secret protocol of the pact, however, specified that the European power referred to Germany.[107] When Polish Ambassador Edward Raczyński reminded Foreign Secretary Lord Halifax of the pact, he was bluntly told that it was Britain's exclusive right to declare war on the Soviet Union or not."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland

3, 

"The Polish government did not declare war on USSR.

The Polish government declared war on Germany when Germany invaded on September 1, 1939. It did not declare war on the USSR."

https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/research/mlg09/did_ussr_invade_poland.html#:~:text=The%20Polish%20government%20did%20not,declare%20war%20on%20the%20USSR.

4,

Germany had more a history, look of warmongering, and actual war, at the moment, (I assume, but do not know)

I've heard a lot about the appeasement play towards Germany, until enough was enough,

I'm not 'so familiar with the appeasement play towards Russia, until enough was enough.

If there were 'real incidents,

The need to manufacture incidents, is puzzling.

You have an interesting writing style,

Like poetry

or something.

I like it - fivesix #113

I'll just give you a paragraph from Mein Kampf instead. Who the fk is George Santos btw.

Some COVID-19 thing or something. Turn off the news, it's affecting your brain

I am simply calling people out for chatting shit about Hitler when they haven't even read Mein Kampf -- so they are parroting rubbish about him instead of, I don't know, maybe, possibly, perhaps reading the man's own words, first? Or even a critique of them? A parody, maybe?

yes, the winners of WW2 have said plenty nice things about Hitler, and they continue to disseminate the unabashed truth of him almost eight decades later as mandatory education in school - not

p.s. most people I know who became 'Holocaust questioners' did so before they became anti-Semites, not the other way round, as you may have been led to believe

Even by 1916, several alarming signs became apparent. The men at the front were cursingand complaining—they were discontented and justifiably resentful in many respects. Whilethey were starving and suffering and their families at home were in misery, they could stillsee places where there was abundance and festive living. Even at the front itself, everythingwasn’t as it should have been in this respect. There were faint warnings of crisis, but thesewere all still internal matters. The same man who growled and cursed would silently do hisduty a few minutes later as if it were habit. The same company that was feelingdiscontented would dig into the section of trenches it had to defend, as if Germany’s Fatedepended upon this hundred yards of mud and shell-holes. This front line was still formedby the old, magnificent “Army of Heroes!” I would soon experience the difference betweenit and home in glaring contrast. At the end of September, 1916, my division entered thebattle of the Somme (one of the largest battles in the First World War with over 1.5 millioncasualties at the river Somme in northern France). For us, it was the first of the huge battlesthat now followed, and the impression it created is hard to describe. It seemed more likeHell than a war. The German front held out against the whirlwind drumming of the guns forweeks at a time. Sometimes, they were pushed back; then they would advance again, butthey never gave up.

we don't have to read your book to know everything we need to know about you.

we don't have to read your book to know everything we need to know about you.

You sound like a left cultist.

You said that you reject everything presented in Mein Kampf, but you still whine that we have to read it because...why is that again? 

Of course, the reason is you lied about rejecting it, we don't have to read your book to know everything we need to know about you.  You are a white supremacist, you are a liar, and you are dumber than a fucking post.  

I am glad that we have a national socialist here now. My Communist ideology and other people's capitalism was a good thing, but yes having national socialist should spice things up more.