U.S. Governors Mafia DP4

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I guess wf could be skum
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Got to say, the site update is harming my ability to review past days. Before I could click into a users forum posts to follow along what they did.

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At this point SirAnon must be town. He could have lied and said I visited Badger; it would be an easy mislynch.

I don't believe RM has the composure to fake things for this long. He's had his dumb moments sure such as dividing the town vote off of Wylted, but anti-town doesn't always equate to actual scum (as we saw with Badger and That2User).

Whiteflame... He's been off my radar due to RM's OMGUS type logic hyper fixating on him. He claims to have blocked That2, but such cannot be confirmed. However, something made SirAnon's following of him fail. Since Wylted was immune to investigations, it seems unlikely that two scum would have such abilities. So my money is on him having lied about being only 1x.

Greyparrot a compulsive visitor... One thing that isn't sitting right with me is him dying if he visits the wrong person. It's pretty safe to say there's no third party, so I doubt his PM would have special rules for those; and he's visited both scum and town. Other than that sheriff who can convert to a vig, I am not seeing any customizations to the roles.

Last but not least Barney. I don't think I could be a Ninja since Wylted was an electrician. And I can confirm I'm not a Yakuza since I haven't died.

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Player                          Character                                     Role                                Notes
Barney                         Greg Abbott (M/Rep)                 Bulletproof                  N/A
Whiteflame                Phil Scott (M/Rep)                      1x Jailkeeper              RBed That2 NP1
Greyparrot                 Tony Evers (M/Dem)                  Compulsive Visitor   Visited Wylted NP1, Barney NP2, Barney NP3
SirAnonymous         Kim Reynolds (F/Rep)                2x Tracker                    Followed whiteflame NP2 (failed), Barney NP3
RationalMadman   Mike DeWine (M/Rep)                 Senator                         N/A

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Best Korea                  Gretchen Whitmer (F/Dem)    2x Purifier                     Mod Killed DP1
Austin                           Joe Lombardo (M/Rep)            Sheriff                             Died NP1
That2User                  Gavin Newsom (M/Dem)          Miller                                Lynched DP2
SupaDudz                  Ron DeSantis (M/Rep)               1x Governor                   Died NP2
Wylted                         Jay Inslee (M/Dem)                     Mafia Electrician         Lynched DP3
Badger                         Kay Ivey (F/Rep)                           2x White Mage              Died NP3

I will note that That2User was mentioning Ron DeSantis as if it was his role. I asked him or Supa to verify, but never got an answer, then DP3 ended before I could do an update.
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I think scum is barney and wf.

I cannot pinpoint the relevance of the purifier unless Barney was a yakd bp.

Either way, I want Whiteflame first.

In a game with a purifier and magd which means double-doctor, why the actual fuck would Pie put a jailkeeper on top?

Ignore all the scumtells whiteflame has had which I will get to later on, it makes absolutely no sense for a third supdrpowerful protective role.

Furthermore, if Wylted had a role that is passive (which he did), the rolekeeping power of the jailkeeper is immensely rigged to only be useful against Town.

From a pure setup perspective, whiteflame has to be a fakeclaim that actually is a roleblocker.

I will explore specifics of why he ended up forced to clash with Wylted DP1 and why I get huge credit for forcing that to happen. I will also explore really odd behaviours of wf since then.

I had a moment to post this. I look forward to your replies.

Also, imagine having a BP on top of a jailkeeper, it makes NO sense of there wre already 2 protective PRs in Town.
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@SirAnonymous
Scum can kill and roleblock st the same time... are you trolling with that worry?
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@SirAnonymous
The same member of scum on ALL plafformsafia is played that I have come across can do the nightkill and the roleblock.
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 Please seek to penalise lancelot for posting in a game he has nothing to do with.
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Under your mechanics does a jailkeeper on Wylted's role stop them learning anything?

Do they stop the visits toward Wylted altogether?
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@whiteflame
A PURIFIER DEMANDS A CONVERTING TYPE ROLE GENERALLY

I AM NOT CONSPIRATORIAL, LIAR! a cultist was very likely
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While rereading I only kust realise whiteflame calimed 1x jailkeeper, that is even more w t f
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Who roleblocked siranon np2 then

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Also why the FUCK would wf out as qz jailkeeper for no reason where he did?

Scum then would know he was functionally a vanilla... helping them target PRs
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@SirAnonymous
why were you not roleblocked np3? Give a scum reasoning not to.

My theory?

Whiteflame is a 2x roleblocker and did rb that2 np1.
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@SirAnonymous
Run me through the reasoning again, of why you did not track NP1
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Is Lancelot allowed to post in live games if he is not in them?
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Ill be back later
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@RationalMadman
Are you sure there are 2 mafias? Im down for either of those.
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Is there a governor that fits being a 1x yakuza and 1x roleblocker?
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@Greyparrot
I am assuming it was 3v8, yes.

I think it was 2v9 with conversion.
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@SirAnonymous
That2 is a male democrat that according to Pie pretends to be.

That2 appears guilty on reports...

The theme with GP as scum DOES work.
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A PURIFIER DEMANDS A CONVERTING TYPE ROLE GENERALLY

I AM NOT CONSPIRATORIAL, LIAR! a cultist was very likely
Except that you already knew how the purifier role worked because by the time we found out what it was, it was already posted verbatim. Not sure why you held onto the view that it’s a converting-type role when it was clearly shown to not be converting. As for a likely cultist… when? I can’t find anything that indicates a cultist in anyone’s behaviors or anything from the flips.

Is Lancelot allowed to post in live games if he is not in them?
1. It was my mistake for tagging him.
2. Moderators do not enforce forum mafia rules
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I’m fine with a lynch on either Barney or GP at this stage.

As for why I outed, again, it was to give us as much information as possible before lynching That2. Scum is obviously not going to NK me regardless of my claim - I’ve been on RM’s shit list since DP1 and I’m an easy mislynch. It’s also weird that RM is calling me out for claiming my role when he was scumreading me for not claiming earlier.
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Last thought: I don’t know why anyone keeps saying that the presence of a Tracker somehow confirms a Compulsive Visitor. That doesn’t make sense. There are all manner of roles that visit other people. I don’t know why a virtually useless role like Compulsive Visitor, which seems built solely to explain why someone would visit other people every night, does anything but confuse a Tracker.
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I will get to all your questions, but I won't have time until this evening.
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@whiteflame
It deconverts, you absolute troll. 
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@whiteflame
The purifoed means yakuza, cultist or a lingering thing like poisoner has to be in thr game.
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@whiteflame
Maybe the purifier cures a compulsive visitor, I didnt think of that.
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But a purifier would disarm me a d a bulletproof too, no?

Pie please clarify what a purifier would do to a bulletproof or senator in your games. I will PM you in case that is the issue.
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Purifier on miller.

I didnt evem think of it, thatakes so much sense.

The purifier could cure the miller and compulsive visitor?

Holy shit!!! This means scum HAS to be barney and wf
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2x purifier, 2 role to purify
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@Greyparrot
Why were you so hesitant to vote dp1 and dp3?