Why didn’t Trump get tanks sent to Ukraine? What a loser!

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Nice Rhetoric.
That's what all the Tony Blair patriots say!

But there is a notable difference between perceived aggression and actual aggression.
So I suppose Ukraine's brutal 2014 invasion of the Donetsk and the violation of a signed 2014 peace treaty was "just a perception"

Tony Blair would be so proud of you.

And then there is the "West's" dependency on Middle Eastern Crude Oil to consider
Make no mistake, USA needs Ukraine for the same reasons. 
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I was more of a Thatchriot at the time.

Not that I ever voted for her.

It was just that she assisted me onto the property ladder. For which I have always been grateful.

Nope, Mr T Blair was always a bit too obsequious for my liking.

And Mr E A Blair was a tad hypocritical by default.


And your version of 2014 would make Mr Putin very proud I'm sure.

And  the friends and families of MH17 would be honoured by your heartfelt support.
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And your version of 2014 would make Mr Putin very proud I'm sure.
Lol, it's straight out of wiki, not from your favorite UK propaganda source.

Enjoy your stay at Orwell's pigfarm.
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These people - yes they are people, are not sneaking across the border. They are going to the authorities to seek asylum or legal residence. Just like your white trash ancestors did years ago.
Exactly. There not sneaking, and all the border control can do is tell them to make it to their court date and let them in the country, but surprisingly, they never go to it. Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder why.
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they never go to it. Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder why.
That’s a lie. But you do admit they are not entering the country illegally to start with, so your original statement that they are increasing crime by coming here is also a lie.



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That’s a lie. But you do admit they are not entering the country illegally to start with, so your original statement that they are increasing crime by coming here is also a lie.
They do, because they don't go to their court date, so it's illegal. 
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they don't go to their court date,
As I said, that’s a lie. You probably got it from FOX News. There have been some cases of immigrants being given unclear instructions from Border Patrol but that was on them. Here’s a recent article about it.


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"Recent Trends. Approximately1 221,000 noncitizens obtained lawful permanent resident (LPR) status in the second quarter (Q2) of Fiscal Year (FY) 2022 (see Table 1A). Approximately 96,000 noncitizens entered the United States as new arrivals, a 148 percent increase from FY 2021 Q2."

So, yea less than 500,000 have crossed legally, and how many have crossed the border this year?
"There were 571,159 encounters of Venezuelans, Cubans, and Nicaraguans arriving between ports of entry during FY 2022—more than the 520,602 encounters of migrants from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras."

571,159 + 520,602 = 1,091,761 illegal immigrants, recorded in just one year. 




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So, yea less than 500,000 have crossed legally
Wrong. People are crossing legally beyond the LPR numbers. Did you read the article? 

Other legal status includes Notices to Report, Notices to Appear and Parole Plus ATD.
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I rarely use wiki.

Though facts is facts and conspiracy is conspiracy.

And someone shot down MH17 with a Buk missile in 2014, and it wasn't me.
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4 legs good, 2 legs bad.
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Wrong. People are crossing legally beyond the LPR numbers. Did you read the article? 
Yea, about 200,000 added to that your right.

400,000 is still less than 500,000 though. 

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4 legs good and 2 legs bad if you are a quadruped.

And vice versa if you are a biped.

Though a woman with 4 legs and three vaginas would make a fortune on Only Fans.

Just saying Vlad.

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Blairmangood. Vladmanbad.

Enjoy life on Orwell's pigfarm.
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 But, honestly. Russia has no interest of conquering Europe. Just Ukraine. And it isn't our problem.
The threats and ways Putin has conducted hinself imply extremely differently, it is in Europe's best interest to keep this war as pyrrhic a victory for Putin as possible.

Based on us disagreeing that if Ukraine had been easy, he would heaveoved more into Europe, we then disagree on US involvement strategically.
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how do you imagine this all works out ?
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how do you imagine this all works out ?
Regime change, Putin is out.
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why would he?
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The title of your page is:

Why didn’t Trump get tanks sent to Ukraine?
You then talk about the Ukraine war and something involving Jan 6.  I would recommend just staying on topic and not supporting multiple current things at once.  Focus on one issue at a time unless you’re being bipartisan.  You can hate Trump and not want to send tanks to Ukraine (or vice versa).  I for example hate Trump; I think he is an authoritarian election denier who I would never want to have power.  But I also don’t want the US spending $100 billion of the military budget on a foreign country.  The US should be one giant buisiness; not starting wars, welcoming customers from all over the world to make us rich, and not giving them government benefits when they come here.

Here is my approach to the Ukraine war: Ukraine should ABSOLUTELY get protection from Russia.  I agree.  Now how do we get to that point?  My solution is the following:

Ukraine’s GDP is about $200 billion.  Russia’s military spending is about $100 billion.  Meaning, if Ukraine spent half of its GDP on the military, it CAN defend its self against Russia.

You may think 50% of its GDP is too much, but America spent about 43% of our GDP towards the military when WWII was going on, and that war didn’t even affect us.  Ukraine can easily pay 50% towards the military.  America then sells them tanks instead of giving them to Ukraine for free.

That would be MY idea; not to give random countries $100 billion worth of supplies.

Thoughts on this idea?


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Regime change, Putin is out.
You realize Putin's replacement is worse than Kamala Harris...
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Regime change, Putin is out.
You realize Putin's replacement is worse than Kamala Harris...
Probably, but I don't see him surviving this fiasco, the last thing the ruling elite can allow is a leader that makes Russia look weak.
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Right. The only thing more disasterous for America would be regime change to Kamala. careful what you wish for.
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Right. The only thing more disasterous for America would be regime change to Kamala. careful what you wish for.
How would it be disastrous for America if the Russians take Putin out?
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Cause you might get a guy in that doesn't just want the Donetsk.

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Also, USA has a real shitty track record with installing regime change puppets. But it's hard to reason with a person that enjoys wars for profit.
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Also, USA has a real shitty track record with installing regime change puppets. But it's hard to reason with a person that enjoys wars for profit
I don't think we could install a regime change puppet in Russia, I don't think we would try, despite the fact that they installed Putin's Trump puppet into our presidency.
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Guess America is screwed no matter what then. May as well ask Biden to launch the nukes after he soils himself.
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Yahoo News is a joke.
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So are wars for profit.

But I imagine you have the sentiment that Lockheed does "great things" just like Pfizer...
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What you are saying makes no sense, like you actually don't think it through and neither do your fellow conspiracy theorists.

Of course capitalist providers of weapons gain income and profit from selling weaponry and munitions during wars. That is blatant.