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@Best.Korea
Do you have proof for your version of afterlife?
No, do you have proof for your idea of morality?
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@Skipper_Sr
The Bible proves that hominids compiled it.
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@Tarik
No, but as long as your version is equally unlikely as mine, I am happy.
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@Best.Korea
No, but as long as your version is equally unlikely as mine, I am happy.
Do you have the capacity to adequately articulate and comprehend your “version”? If not the comparison isn’t equal in the slightest.
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@Tarik
As long as you dont have proof for your version, whatever story you make up doesnt make it any better.
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@zedvictor4
The Bible proves that hominids compiled it.
You are saying that the Bible contains proof that it was written by hominids. Where in the Bible is this stated?
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@Best.Korea
As long as you dont have proof for your version, whatever story you make up doesnt make it any better.
So how about this for proof, the fact that nihilism doesn’t make any sense proves the afterlife is real.
Vanilla Wafer-ism
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@Skipper_Sr
A bible is not proof of its own creation.
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@zedvictor4
The Bible is real. I have a physical copy of the Bible which can prove it.
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@Tarik
"the fact that nihilism doesn’t make any sense proves the afterlife is real"
Thank you for enlightening me. I have just converted to Christianity again thanks to your great words.
I have already converted to Christianity for about 200 times in my life, but I always come back to atheism because Christians and muslims want to have sex with me.
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@Best.Korea
The Bible,
Or,
A copy of a book.
Though,
A realistic object,
Is not the issue.
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@zedvictor4
Well, you did say that Bible isnt proof. But I can prove that the Bible exists. Do you want me to send you a video of the Bible? But then you will say its Computer Generated Image...
You always find excuses...
Why cant you understand? If Bible exists, then God exists.
Do you still deny that Bible exists?
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@Best.Korea
If Bible exists, then God exists.
If Lord of the rings exists, then Middle Earth exists.
So choose your favourite work of fiction and make it come to life.
And I had a bible once, but I burned it, so I destroyed God.
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@zedvictor4
Burning the Bible isnt good. It is much better to use it to wipe ass.
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@Best.Korea
And flush God down the pan.
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@zedvictor4
@Best.Korea
Personally, I like the Bible,
As a source of loose history, morals, ethics, philosophy, allegory, poetry, and so on.
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@Lemming
To be honest, I neither like nor dislike Bibles.
They're generally just inert books on a shelf somewhere.
But please quote me a piece of biblical poetry.
I genuinely like poetry.
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@zedvictor4
I suppose two that come to my mind, are A Psalm of David. and The Lord’s Prayer,
Mainly because there's a couple Youtube videos I remember,
Truth be told I don't read the Bible or study it much,
So might be I'm overclaiming how much I like it in post #77,
But I 'do still like the Bible.
A Psalm of David.
1The LORD is my shepherd;a
I shall not want.
2He makes me lie down in green pastures;
He leads me beside quiet waters.
3He restores my soul;
He guides me in the paths of righteousness
for the sake of His name.
4Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,b
I will fear no evil,
for You are with me;
Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.
5You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
6Surely goodness and mercy will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.c
1The LORD is my shepherd;a
I shall not want.
2He makes me lie down in green pastures;
He leads me beside quiet waters.
3He restores my soul;
He guides me in the paths of righteousness
for the sake of His name.
4Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,b
I will fear no evil,
for You are with me;
Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.
5You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
6Surely goodness and mercy will follow me
all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the house of the LORD
forever.c
PSALM 23~ A Psalm Of David
The Lord’s Prayer
5And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their full reward. 6But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
7And when you pray, do not babble on like pagans, for they think that by their many words they will be heard. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.
9So then, this is how you should pray:
‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be Your name.
10Your kingdom come,
Your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.b’
E Nomine -The Lord's Prayer -English version
Music touches the heart,
I can admire people who find God a mainstay,
Admire their faith, sentiment,
And the action it can give people.
My mother and first brother, are two people who I find. . . Intimidating at times, by how pure they seem in their faith and altruism,
I suppose one could dislike A Psalm of David, for the fact that even people of faith are killed, tortured, fall despite their faith and efforts,\
But I admire the faith people keep in hardship,
It's a beauty to me, when people 'do keep their values.
Of The Lord’s Prayer, I like how it is encouraged to not make a false show of one's belief, but let it guide one, in their private and personal life,
What they are in the dark, away from societies eyes,
It's far from uncommon of people, including myself, to care more about 'appearance of virtue, than virtue itself.
I like the thankfulness of what is had in ones life,
For one can easily forget the good and only remember the bad, skewing one's psyche,
I like the forgiveness spoken,
The recognition of evil, and a desire not to be led into it,
. . . Opportunity creates criminals, some people say, and I think there's truth in that.
Of course one can complain about the Lords Prayer as well,
Yet we 'do find ourselves in temptation,
Or situations where so much 'bad is about. . .
. . .
But I admire people's faith,
And such situations are not unmentioned in the Bible, Job, and Ecclesiaste.
It's something I admire, but cannot have as I am, an Atheist,
Unwilling to change my view.
But I like it.
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@Lemming
Thanks for taking the time.
I know versions of both verses, they were two mainstay pieces of my formative C of E education.
And like a lot of biblical stuff, one can see both logic and hypothetical necessity in both.
I personally don't admire devout people, though I'm certainly tolerant of their behaviour.
After all, they have been conditioned to be devout, just as I have been conditioned otherwise.
I think the big difference is that devout people have been conditioned with a tendency to be less tolerant of atheism.
As ever, everything boils down to the acquisition, storage and utilisation of stored data.
Which for sure, is an amazing organic process and function.
All those electro-chemical signals zipping about inside our brains doing remembering and thinking stuff, as well as keeping the mainframe going.
Yep, we're amazing bits of kit for sure.
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@zedvictor4
I'd agree that devout people can be conditioned to be less than tolerant of atheism,
They take a stance after all, place it as true and important,
Though I would argue such can hold for atheists as well,
Should they acquire certain tenants and ideologies.
Atheism, Theism, or Christianity being wide umbrellas,
Certainly though,
Not company one enjoys keeping,
If another holds a different view,
To the point their view demands you have less rights,
Demands you be chastised daily for a lack of faith.
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@Lemming
Chastise them for their foolishness.
Or yes, probably best to walk away and ignore.
For me atheism is simply that.
No fixed fantasy beliefs and therefore no associated ritualism and paraphernalia.
Whereas theism generally comes with loads of stupid baggage.
Best just to be inquisitive about what we don't know.
Rather than making up stupid fanciful explanations.
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@zedvictor4
Heh, no avoiding stupid fanciful explanations for me,
I 'need 'some theory, placed most likely,
That I can act,
Maybe,
Even if I think it hazy, flawed, broad.