There is no compromising with MAGA Republicans. They are today’s slave holders

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Last I checked, Fox news still has the highest ratings of any news network. If that has changed I would find that interesting, but that has absolutely nothing to do with anything I just said.

That can be true and it can also be true that collectively the 9 leftist networks have more viewership than Fox news.

That still doesn't mean most people on the right get their news from Fox, because a great many do not. So when you come on these forums with Fox talking points, around 65% of the people on the right have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Just giving you some advice to bring more to the table if you want people to take you seriously.

Try reading my post again, replace "Fox News" with whatever prominent right wing news source you like. Then feel free to respond to the point.
Alright.

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If Biden was caught on tape saying anything remotely like this it would be played on <right> news every day for the next 5 years and you know it.
Actually, it's really just a joke and hardly news at this point since we have had examples going back to the 70's of Joe Biden selling out to foreign interests. Most of what the right wing news outlets talk about is practical ways to protect yourself from the inevitable abuses instead of useless demagogue lip service about "Bidenmanbad"

Nobody on the right needs to be reminded of it, or need to be convinced. A simple glance at their 401K or enduring the garbage being regurgitated to them from their kids is more than persuasive enough. They don't need a fancy dressed fast talking guy with a production studio sporting a perpetual fake look of concern to help them figure it all out. The jokes help them cope with the abuse though.

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I merely supplied analysis from a source I thought you might respect, without daring to supply any analysis of my own. Silly me— you are clinically unable to take in opposing facts and analysis no matter what the source. Honestly, because your outright dismissals and weaselly rationalizations are to be expected, I “decided to chime in” for the benefit of others who might be reading, so it isn’t a complete waste.

Yet you wonder why your posts garner mainly low effort, troll responses
I don't wonder at all, I'm discussing issues with people like yourself who are intellectually lazy and very defensive of protecting the sense of self identity politics gives you. So you throw your jabs wherever you see an opening and then retreat when a thorough and thoughtful response is given that you can't handle. And to protect from your own inability to handle it you pretend I'm the problem and dismiss everything I said with no further thought by going with the generic "you're not worth my time" response.

If you're really here for the benefit of those reading, them explain to them what was actually wrong with anything I just said.

“That was four days ago, five days ago.”
Exactly. Everything I just said and this is your response.

But I'm the problem. Ok bro...
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You left out 

An ex-President Spreading lies about fraudulent or rigged elections while politicians from the same party either repeat those lies or remain silent.
Trump was elected in 2016 because America needed a liar. How does that disqualify him in 2020 or 2024?
Americans see Putin lying  and yet he is the President of Russia.
Americans want the same for their President. It’s called American patriotism.
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Well, polarization 'does prove to be an enemy in modern politics, it seems,
Though I'm not sure that it's the people's 'politics, so much as people of such different views being so close to each other,
The Left and Right in general, nowadays, I mean.
The extremists on the right and left are not far apart at all, they are two “polar opposite” categories of one and the same extremism, just two sides of one and the same extremist coin, much closer to each other than either of them is to anything resembling a reasonable or rational position.  They are feeding off of each other and both are nourished by one and the same reactionary extremism, both owe their very existence to the same emotional base of hatred and hostility, and consequently, they are both equally dangerous if allowed to flourish. Neither is right, they are both wrong, and they are working together against our country.


No, then again as I think on it,
There's more conspiracy theories on the Right and active nuts, than I care for,
Not that there aren't any on the Left,
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I really do think 'some of the Right's craziness, came from the Lefts craziness,
And of course when people encounter opposition to their values, beliefs, actions, they often become more entrenched.
Yes, the polarizers have learned to control people by manipulating emotions while bypassing logic, truth, and reason altogether, they present a series of images that have nothing to do with facts and reality, but that series of images creates an emotional response of anger, outrage, and hatred.  Most people aren’t even looking at facts, they aren’t being rational, they are simply reacting to excessive negative emotions that the polarizers have created and then directed at the opposition.  To a great extent, I think many are knowingly doing it too, somehow it feels good to have these darks feelings brought to the surface and then projected onto the ‘them’ of their “us/them” thinking. It’s some kind of willful fantasy, where there is a conscious suspension of disbelief that satisfies the anger.  I think that’s why the angriest posters here spend so much time accusing the opposition of being angry, it’s part of the inherent process of projection.  The controllers know the stuff they say isn’t true, but they know it works, and for them, that’s better than the truth.

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Hm, no, 'most of all I blame Trump, who in a position of power has 'encouraged division, as the spark, 'moreso than the push that elected him.
No question he has been the primary polarizing influence, and yeah, the so called “Trump movement” changed dramatically from what people thought they were voting for, but somehow, in the process, he made the people change dramatically too.  I saw people I’ve known and respected for decades just transform before me, and there was no reasoning, logic, or reality to any of it.  Perfectly logical, rational, and informed people turned into conspiracy believing nutcases that will not, or perhap, cannot listen to reason..


Still, McCain wasn't that long ago, who was not a bad fellow,
Yeah, that’s one of many fine moments of John McCain’s, it’s when he stood up to this “Faustian” deal the rest of the Republican party has embraced, it certainly cost him votes, maybe even the election, but I don’t think John McCain would want to win that way.

Hm, about race you say?

I 'do remember seeing Ferguson on the news, 2014,
When people right or wrong 'Identify themselves as a group, it makes others aware of them as The Other, I'd suggest,
Doesn't matter if race or politics,
Which isn't 'always bad, groups of different people can get along, all sorts of identifiable groups,

I remember Charlottesville, about a statue of Lee wasn't it?
Not that I cared much myself, communities can do what they want with their communities, though I might disagree, eh, their choice.
But, again,
Makes people aware of the other, suggests 'truth to the replacement theory,
Oh please, “replacement Theory” is nothing but white supremacist propaganda, it comes from the Turner Diaries which is a book advocating a race war to eliminate people of color, it’s practically the white supremacist bible.  We knew about these demographic changes taking place fifty years ago, the idea that there is a vast Jewish conspiracy behind it all is absolute nonsense.


BLM, which people disagree on how bad or good it was,
BLM was a peaceful protest with a great deal of validity, it raised awareness of a very real and prevalent problem in this country, but in the process, it became polarizing.  Civil rights injustice is real in this country and it has always been polarizing. I have seen huge progress in my lifetime, but man did we take some enormous steps backward in the last couple decades.  A lot of folks tell me I was just naïve about the progress that took place, maybe so, maybe it was just below the surface, all these Trumpers telling me they were just taking a stand against “political correctness” makes me think maybe the progress wasn’t real, it was just a matter of hiding it in the name of political correctness.

Certainly Trump handled it 'terribly.
Trump used it, exploited it, and politically weaponized it, he turned it into a tool for polarizing the country.   
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but in the process, it became polarizing. 

What process... the theft of millions of dollars by the founders of BLM? I would be pretty polarized too if I donated to them. 
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I don't wonder at all, I'm discussing issues with people like yourself who are intellectually lazy and very defensive of protecting the sense of self identity politics gives you. So you throw your jabs wherever you see an opening and then retreat when a thorough and thoughtful response is given that you can't handle. And to protect from your own inability to handle it you pretend I'm the problem and dismiss everything I said with no further thought by going with the generic "you're not worth my time" response.
You are… you’re way off, man… ya hear me? Way off!! *tears begin welling up and storms off*

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America solved the last problem of slavery with a civil war. Today there are enough guns in American hands to arrive at a more decisive solution. Or why is owning guns legal?
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You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. The difference is that my opinions are based in logic and reason, whereas yours are based in an emotional need to “own the libs.”

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If that's "owning the libs," then I want a refund.
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There's probably some crazy angle in the phrase Replacement Theory I'm missing,
Since I don't pay attention to it much, or read things like the Turner Diaries.

Still, I'd imagine a fair bit of culture 'is blood and ancestry, though I suppose even a culture that relies on adoption could continue well enough,
But adoption 'would require the adoptees see themselves 'truly in the adopter.

Might be people saw the demographic changes coming 50 years ago,
And certainly 'seems like people were riled up about it back then,
I forget how few years have passed sometimes, in historical events that I wasn't around yet for.
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I don't mean the above as defending any group,
Just as a note that 'any semi-established group develops an identity, I think,
And with identity comes defensiveness, desire to continue oneself, often,
Of course old groups become shed skin, but their immediate successors hold their characteristics,
Of course groups splinter into new pieces, but the splinters hold the grain of that which they splintered from.

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I do think our justice system, police system,
Would benefit from some improvement.
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That's exactly the problem, they did mean the same thing we do today in the sense that the whole idea of the government they envisioned is one on which no man was greater than any other.

The problem is that they didn't consider black people (or basically anyone who wasn't white) as people.

The quote and it's original meaning still holds today, just not who is supposed to be included in it.

But what is meant by "no man is greater than any other"? Is this specifically referring to equal protection of the law? Why can't it simply be referring to their ban on hereditary titles that were widespread in England's government and country? After all the Constitution explicitly stated "No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States".

I find it hard to believe that they would have believed in your modern idea of "equity" or anything other than suggesting that everyone have equal protection of the law
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There's probably some crazy angle in the phrase Replacement Theory I'm missing,
Since I don't pay attention to it much, or read things like the Turner Diaries.

Still, I'd imagine a fair bit of culture 'is blood and ancestry, though I suppose even a culture that relies on adoption could continue well enough,
But adoption 'would require the adoptees see themselves 'truly in the adopter.

Might be people saw the demographic changes coming 50 years ago,
And certainly 'seems like people were riled up about it back then,
I forget how few years have passed sometimes, in historical events that I wasn't around yet for.
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A big part of conspiracy theory thinking is believing there is some nefarious intent behind important changes or events, replacement theory is just ridiculous, there are only 15 million jews on the planet, that’s out of 8 billion people.  Replacement theory attributes global demographic changes to a Jewish conspiracy, that assumes Jews are evil and have almost Godlike power to control the reproductive rates, movement and living conditions of 8 billion people.  This can only make sense to white supremacists looking for a race war.
 
The fact that we both even know what replacement theory is speaks to the fact that these supremacists are overrepresented in politics, in the media, and in our collective mentality, Trump helped make these guy’s ideas become more mainstream, and social media gave them a global audience, this fringe group has way too much influence.

I don't mean the above as defending any group,
Just as a note that 'any semi-established group develops an identity, I think,
And with identity comes defensiveness, desire to continue oneself, often,
Of course old groups become shed skin, but their immediate successors hold their characteristics,
Of course groups splinter into new pieces, but the splinters hold the grain of that which they splintered from.
To have a group requires some way of determining who is part of the group, so there is necessarily an identity, and if you have this identity to determine membership, then I guess those who don’t qualify for membership have an identity too.  Now the group dynamic becomes a matter of hierarchy, the in group defines the group as better than the out group, by virtue of the fact that the out group wasn’t qualified to be in.

I do think our justice system, police system,
Would benefit from some improvement.
A ton, civilization, society, human nature, none of it is stable, it’s always moving and hopefully in the direction of progress, that’s what it’s all about, but too often we tend to move in the wrong direction, and lately, we are taking huge steps backward.  And yeah, the police and justice systems are badly in need of repair, there’s a ton of improvement could happen in the short term.
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I wouldn't say 'better, myself,
Though one often values ingroup more than outgroup,
Sometimes value outgroup more than ingroup,
Still, groups overlap, and vary,
An individual fitting into many different groups,
People selective at times of what group they value.

Though I'm using the word group as characteristic, be it physical, political, religious.
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Replacement theory attributes global demographic changes to a Jewish conspiracy, 
Not necessarily. It just states that it is happening and there is intent behind it. There doesn’t have to be a specific or even a single group behind it. It is mainly a system that has been on auto-pilot with strong and active resistance against any change in trajectory. That’s pretty much undeniable at this point

The fact that we both even know what replacement theory is speaks to the fact that these supremacists are overrepresented in politics
That’s a term used by lefties far more often than anyone even remotely right-wing. Noticing the fact that there is a changing demography is something that is both simultaneously celebrated by democrats and also used as a political attack against anyone that mentions it is happening, labeling them “replacement theorists” or any combination of other such insults


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Replacement theory attributes global demographic changes to a Jewish conspiracy, 
Not necessarily. It just states that it is happening and there is intent behind it. There doesn’t have to be a specific or even a single group behind it. It is mainly a system that has been on auto-pilot with strong and active resistance against any change in trajectory. That’s pretty much undeniable at this point
Stereotypically, the nefarious intent is represented as a Jewish conspiracy, that is what it was in the Turner Diaries on which the concept is based, that is why “The Jews Will Not Replace Us” is the standard White Supremacist slogan, and that is what’s pretty much undeniable at this point.
 
Can you define just what “strong and active resistance” to demographic change is, is it violence against ‘others”, is it voter suppression, is it a race war, how exactly do you actively resist demographic change? 

The fact that we both even know what replacement theory is speaks to the fact that these supremacists are overrepresented in politics
That’s a term used by lefties far more often than anyone even remotely right-wing.
Nonsense, the term comes straight out of the ranks of Militant White Supremacists, and they are the very definition of remote right-wing.  My point was the only reason those of us in the general population (lefties, conservatives, independents, reality adjusted people, etc.) know the term is because Trump and the Republican party has given the far far right much more legitimacy and the media has given them the audience. Most of us only know the term because of the slogan chanted in Charlottesville, and that got big time press coverage, and let’s not forget what that particular White Supremacists rally was named, “Unite the Right”, these are the guys the right has united with.  You can cry boo hoo and feel persecuted all you want, the fact remains that you have allied yourself with these people, and it’s a part of our public discourse now, blaming the “them” of your “us/them” thinking is standard operating procedure, but it’s just whining.  You absolutely should feel ashamed that you have embraced those guys, especially ashamed if you are one of those guys, but you don’t get to deny it, and you don’t get to blame the evil others for mentioning it.  It didn’t happen because we mentioned it, we mention it because it happened.

Noticing the fact that there is a changing demography is something that is both simultaneously celebrated by democrats
I don’t know I’d call it “celebrated”, it’s certainly “embraced” by the Democratic Party, as it should be. The job of politicians is to represent the people, if the demography of your constituency changes, who and what you represent changes.  It’s supposed to be “of the people, by the people, and for the people”.

The Republican party made resistance and resentment of those demographic change into tactics, exploited fear and resentment, and turned it all into White Identity politics, and that’s when I walked away from the party, and of course, that makes me a “lefty”.  Fact is, I’m a true conservative, I’m stand for what the Republican party used to stand for, and it’s not in spite of that, it’s because of that, that I’m about as militantly against Trump’s Republican part as any “lefty” can be.  

and also used as a political attack against anyone that mentions it is happening, labeling them “replacement theorists” or any combination of other such insults
Oh you poor baby, white people are so persecuted, you hate diversity and that makes everyone be really mean to you, white people have suffered so much discrimination in our society since Barack Obama invented racism, life is so unfair, blah blah blah…

I’m so sorry for you, but try to cheer up, maybe an insurrection would make you feel better, and hey, if you win the majority back in the midterms, you can always keep all these bad people from voting.
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But what is meant by "no man is greater than any other"?
Equal rights. No man is a king, no man is above the law, no man's voice counts more than any other. Our system of government operates on a system, not via any individual or group of individuals.

Why do you keep asking me this? What is so difficult about it?


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Can you define just what “strong and active resistance” to demographic change is, is it violence against ‘others”, is it voter suppression, is it a race war, how exactly do you actively resist demographic change? 
You misread what I said. The strong resistance against trajectory is Congress’ refusal to lower immigration quotas or increase qualifications to let people in (ie. Public charge rule)


Most of us only know the term because of the slogan chanted in Charlottesville, and that got big time press coverage,
And once again, that only got attention because of lefties. Until “January 6th”, they were still constantly referencing the Charlottesville protest as some supposed representation of Republicans when it was just a few thousand wackos. Biden said he ran for president because of that little protest. The entire reason we know of any of that is because of left-wing exaggeration and fear mongering.

I don’t know I’d call it “celebrated”, it’s certainly “embraced” by the Democratic Party, as it should be.
It is something that can be changed if we want to. Why must we embrace it if demographic change can be reversed? Is it something worth embracing? Sure, be pleasant to people already here, but there is no need to embrace the idea of further demographic shift in the future when it’s not inevitable.

And when diversity is treated like an undeniable good by all lefties despite evidence to the contrary and the countless news articles bashing anything or place not sufficiently diverse (non-white), I would call it celebrating

The Republican party made resistance and resentment of those demographic change into tactics, exploited fear and resentment, and turned it all into White Identity politics
You couldn’t be more incorrect. The Democrats have been the party of resentment: it is a coalition of the fringes that hate white people and Christians. How else do you have Muslim’s teaming up with feminists? It’s hatred. And Whites are objectively the group with the least identification with their race and the only reason it is increasing is because they are being attacked and demonized for being white. Most Republicans have and still want raceblindness but you idiots threw it away for “equity” and trashing their ancestors
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but in the process, it became polarizing. 

What process... the theft of millions of dollars by the founders of BLM? I would be pretty polarized too if I donated to them. 
Oh pulease, do you just make shit up and then tell yourself it's true?  


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Can you define just what “strong and active resistance” to demographic change is, is it violence against ‘others”, is it voter suppression, is it a race war, how exactly do you actively resist demographic change? 
You misread what I said. The strong resistance against trajectory is Congress’ refusal to lower immigration quotas or increase qualifications to let people in (ie. Public charge rule)
Oh, you mean we could stop the global change in demographics if we’d just build a wall and hang a big sign on it that says no brown people allowed?  The Trumper mentality is just stupid as shit, he dumbed down the Republican party so badly you whack jobs don’t have a clue what you are even talking about. 
 
Sorry kiddie, you can’t stop the world from changing, you can stomp your feet and throw a tantrum all you want, but the world isn’t going to listen.  You are just going to have to adapt, that or you and your walnut sized brain will go extinct. 

Most of us only know the term because of the slogan chanted in Charlottesville, and that got big time press coverage,
And once again, that only got attention because of lefties. Until “January 6th”, they were still constantly referencing the Charlottesville protest as some supposed representation of Republicans when it was just a few thousand wackos. Biden said he ran for president because of that little protest. The entire reason we know of any of that is because of left-wing exaggeration and fear mongering.
You are so full of crap, the “them” of your “us/them” thinking created the white supremacist slogan with all their negativity, gee whiz, those damn lefties talk about racism like it’s a bad thing, it’s so unfair. 
 
Those wackos are the core of Trump’s base, they are the "good people" Trump admires, and they are dragging the Republican party into hatred, intolerance, violence and vitriol, and you know it, that’s why you are deflecting, trying to place blame on the evil others for your fanaticism. 

I don’t know I’d call it “celebrated”, it’s certainly “embraced” by the Democratic Party, as it should be.
It is something that can be changed if we want to. Why must we embrace it if demographic change can be reversed?
Are you really going to try to sell racism to me?  Save it, this is no Klan meeting, I’m one of those bad people that talk about racism like it’s a bad thing, that’s not going to change.

Is it something worth embracing? Sure, be pleasant to people already here, but there is no need to embrace the idea of further demographic shift in the future when it’s not inevitable.
I’m sorry you are so afraid of losing your privilege, instead of whine, maybe you should have gone out and accomplished something with it, if you really want to feel superior, try being a better person.

And when diversity is treated like an undeniable good by all lefties despite evidence to the contrary and the countless news articles bashing anything or place not sufficiently diverse (non-white), I would call it celebrating
Oh no, are those damn lefties talking about treating everyone with respect and dignity, no matter what color they are?  Damn it, if the founders wanted that egalitarian shit, they would have put it in the Constitution, right?   
 
And where do we get all that “evidence to the contrary, do they hand it out at Klan meetings.

The Republican party made resistance and resentment of those demographic change into tactics, exploited fear and resentment, and turned it all into White Identity politics
You couldn’t be more incorrect. The Democrats have been the party of resentment: it is a coalition of the fringes that hate white people and Christians. How else do you have Muslim’s teaming up with feminists? It’s hatred. And Whites are objectively the group with the least identification with their race and the only reason it is increasing is because they are being attacked and demonized for being white. Most Republicans have and still want raceblindness but you idiots threw it away for “equity” and trashing their ancestors
Oh no, you poor poor pitiful white guy, so persecuted, forced to live with all that prejudice, intolerance, and hatred, boo hoo…lol, you whiney baby whack jobs are such a fucking joke.  Don’t stand there defending supremacist ideology and also say you want raceblindness, these supremacists are your people now, and their ideology is a core component of Trump’s Republican party. 

The White Supremacists you have embraced are the ones who took their white privilege and still came in last place in society, they are the underbelly of society, they occupy the lowest levels of education, intelligence, socialization, and economic success, nothing but frustrated social misfits and of course they want to blame somebody for their failure, but the fact is, they are where they are because of their natures.  Democrats didn’t make them lowlifes, they achieved it all on their own.
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Oh, you mean we could stop the global change in demographics if we’d just build a wall and hang a big sign on it that says no brown people allowed?  The Trumper mentality is just stupid as shit, he dumbed down the Republican party so badly you whack jobs don’t have a clue what you are even talking about.  
 
Sorry kiddie, you can’t stop the world from changing, you can stomp your feet and throw a tantrum all you want, but the world isn’t going to listen.  You are just going to have to adapt, that or you and your walnut sized brain will go extinct. 

Well now that you mention it, I do believe that we (being a First World country) can put up a wall, defend our borders, and choose who we let in.

We have no need to stop the world from changing.

Are you really going to try to sell racism to me?  Save it, this is no Klan meeting, I’m one of those bad people that talk about racism like it’s a bad thing, that’s not going to change
You really aren’t worth talking to. Somehow you are more belligerent and less intelligent than that Roosevelt guy. The slightest bit of pushback and you descend into intelligible tirade
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Oh, you mean we could stop the global change in demographics if we’d just build a wall and hang a big sign on it that says no brown people allowed?  The Trumper mentality is just stupid as shit, he dumbed down the Republican party so badly you whack jobs don’t have a clue what you are even talking about.  
 
Sorry kiddie, you can’t stop the world from changing, you can stomp your feet and throw a tantrum all you want, but the world isn’t going to listen.  You are just going to have to adapt, that or you and your walnut sized brain will go extinct. 

Well now that you mention it, I do believe that we (being a First World country) can put up a wall, defend our borders, and choose who we let in.

We have no need to stop the world from changing.

Are you really going to try to sell racism to me?  Save it, this is no Klan meeting, I’m one of those bad people that talk about racism like it’s a bad thing, that’s not going to change
You really aren’t worth talking to. Somehow you are more belligerent and less intelligent than that Roosevelt buffoon. The slightest bit of pushback and you descend into intelligible tirade
LOL, you snowflakes are soooo easy :)

BTW, Joe Biden put me in charge of the war on Mr. Potatohead.
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LOL, you snowflakes are soooo easy :)
Hoes mad!

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Oh pulease, do you just make shit up and then tell yourself it's true? 

You want sources? I have plenty.
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What is the argument for the proposition "MAGA Republicans are today’s slave holders"?
  • I am not seeing where you lay out an argument for this. 
He never lays out an argument for anything. He just bitches, whines and moans like a little all liberals on the left do. 
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Yeah, he is an idiot sadly. 
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Yeah, he is an idiot sadly. 
That is a HUGE understatement!!! 
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What is the argument for the proposition "MAGA Republicans are today’s slave holders"?
  • I am not seeing where you lay out an argument for this. 
He never lays out an argument for anything. He just bitches, whines and moans like a little all liberals on the left do. 

Look at the very first paragraph in the original post and you will have your answer. Also, see the link included in the OP to the opinion piece from the Washington Post. You two are like a couple of morons who don’t know how to find books at a library.

In summary, the article proposes that just as it would have been wrong to compromise with people who want to maintain a system of slavery it would be wrong to compromise with the morons who make up MAGA Republicans.
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Equal rights. No man is a king, no man is above the law, no man's voice counts more than any other. Our system of government operates on a system, not via any individual or group of individuals.

There is nothing wrong with this, as long as it isn't twisted to allow things that directly contradict it. Unless I'm mistaken, you support discrimination through Affirmative Action, which is forbidden under the letter of federal law (and is soon to be the interpretation of the Supreme Court if it has any brains). So that isn't equal rights, that is "equity"- that is not "all men were created equal"